Centro apparently 'on the warpath' - looking to do BIG THINGS at Pre Classic

If he doesn't go 3:45 it'll seem like all talk. With the field that is being gathered and conversions, he needs to win and hit that time or faster to back up his talk.

Total fan of Centro!

Hope he crushes.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

The setup will be much better than Amos/Thompson doing Tim Sein impressions.

Quote of the day.

He could be last for the rest of his career and it wouldn't matter in the slightest. Not in the real world. Same thing with the John Shuster curling team after the gold medal in 2018.

Are they using an American runner as a pacer? American paces always go out way too fast. If you say 55 first lap they'll go 25, 30 for the first splits and then maintain that 30 second rhythm and come through 800 in 1:55 and go oops.

I haven't seen the start lists, but is Cole Hocker running? If not, he should be the pacer and keep going when he feels great. If he just wants to pace it through, he should be able to cruise through 2:47-2:48 and give everyone a chance for a great time.

If they get Craig Nowak or Sowinsky it could be OK. But yes I agree with the stereotype.

Aouita 84 wrote:

"Anti-tactical racing propaganda" WTF? What is that?

You "Race" to win...PERIOD! It's a very simple concept unless you've never experienced it. It's safe to say you've never participated in elite racing (sitting in the stands doesn't count) but to voice an opinion with little if any working knowledge is just plain moronic. You don't have to like the dude, just acknowledge the accomplishments.

How F**king Stupid are you?

It's basically wanting to watch a 1500m race as opposed to a 3 lap jog followed by a 400m sprint.

As well as wanting the resulting performances to somewhat match the capabilities of the runners.

I watch the races to see who was the fastest over that distance on that day, therefore an outcome that doesn't satisfactorily answer that question is, well, unsatisfying.

He's NEVER broken 3:30 for the 1500m!!! Which, in international running, is the MINIMUM standard for excellence. Too many of you turds on LR are still living in the 1970s when breaking 3:40 meant something. Hello, McFly.... go sub-3:30 or be a turd.

Javman wrote:

He's NEVER broken 3:30 for the 1500m!!! Which, in international running, is the MINIMUM standard for excellence. Too many of you turds on LR are still living in the 1970s when breaking 3:40 meant something. Hello, McFly.... go sub-3:30 or be a turd.

😡😡🤬😡🤬🤬

BUT HE HAS THE GOLD. Gold is the only thing that matters.

Javman wrote:

He's NEVER broken 3:30 for the 1500m!!! Which, in international running, is the MINIMUM standard for excellence. Too many of you turds on LR are still living in the 1970s when breaking 3:40 meant something. Hello, McFly.... go sub-3:30 or be a turd.

Would you rather win NCAA XC or run 13:29 in a last chance meet?

Would you rather win the gold or not win THE GOLD 😂

So many soyboy clowns on this thread.

Centrowitz has four global championship and olympic medals. Gold in the Olympics, Silver at Worlds, Bronze at Worlds, and another Gold at Worlds Indoors. Not to mention his Gold from Pan Am Junior Champs.

He's consistently beat many people outright faster than him on paper. Sub 3:30 has been done many times in history, 117 to be exact.

Many of those athletes have nowhere near Centro's medal haul. What do you think they'd rather have? Some quick time in some Diamond League meet or no-name location with perfect conditions and rabbiting? Or, would they like to win that elusive global championship medal? The kind of medal where you have to not only be fit, but perfectly mete your energy throughout several rounds, have some luck, and show up on the final day, under pressure, and get the job done?

How many Africans have you seen come out of the woodwork to run very fast times but repeatedly bomb or underperform or just run stupidly in global championships?

Ask most elite athletes, and they want the medal. Their times can be broken, but as they say, "nobody can take that medal away from you" (assuming they aren't busted for doping).

As for Centro's times over his career, let's start with his first appearance on the world championship stage.

https://worldathletics.org/records/toplists/middle-long/1500-metres/outdoor/men/senior/2015?regionType=world&page=1&bestResultsOnly=true

Just check out where he ranked each year for the 1500m...

2011: 38th fastest runner (bronze Daegu)

2012: 10th fastest

2013: 27th fastest (silver Moscow)

2014: 11th fastest

2015: 12th fastest (pb of 3:30.40)

In 2016 (the year Centro won gold in Portland indoors AND led wire-to-wire to win gold in Rio): 20th fastest

2017: 13th fastest

2018: 9th fastest

2019: 18th fastest

2020: Covid off-year

2021: 35th fastest

So over 11 seasons, he was never outside the 40th fastest 1500m runner in the world, hauled four medals, and even ranked 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th fastest runner in the world.

And let's not forget all his USA championship 'golds'...

In other words, if you hate on Centro, you're an idiot and probably a soyboy cvck.

Thank you for proving my argument for me. Centro didn't deserve those medals. They're fraudulent.

OozmaKappa wrote:

Thank you for proving my argument for me. Centro didn't deserve those medals. They're fraudulent.

You're obviously a troll, but if you're going to troll, try to be a little more intelligent with it.

You come across as a high school virgin.

If I'm a troll for presenting a viewpoint that differs from the widely accepted one then why are you engaging with me and repeatedly resorting to namecalling rather than ignoring me.

Javman wrote:

He's NEVER broken 3:30 for the 1500m!!! Which, in international running, is the MINIMUM standard for excellence. Too many of you turds on LR are still living in the 1970s when breaking 3:40 meant something. Hello, McFly.... go sub-3:30 or be a turd.

"Go sub-3:30 or be a turd" should be the LRC strapline.

Couple of things on this: I hope Centro goes for it but realistically, even at his peak he didn't look like a 3:46 guy and has never even brushed sub-3:30. He's had a great career but he's a championship racer, not a record guy. Even Mo Farah has accrued more national and area records and he was the ultimate "medals-first" guy.

On another note, why aren't they installing wavelight for this? You can programme two sets of lights, one for the AR, one for the WR, then you don't have to rely on dubious pacers

beast among boys wrote:

Never doubt the Champ. Didn't perform like he wanted in Tokyo, looking to make amends and take scalps in his homecoming to Eugene!

Who?

90210 wrote:

beast among boys wrote:

Never doubt the Champ. Didn't perform like he wanted in Tokyo, looking to make amends and take scalps in his homecoming to Eugene!

Who?

Olympic Champion Gold Wielding Matthew Centrowitz AKA the GOAT of the 1500