Talibans enter Kabul as US choppers evacuate embassy

Buchanan Brigade wrote:

This fiasco is the result of the unholy alliance of neocons and liberal interventionists and their plans to run the planet.

A Republic not an Empire.

Exactly.

runnerboy70 wrote:

I didn't vote for Biden but he's doing the right thing here...

It ain't our fight...

The US/UK has been there for 20 years. The afghanis cannot fend for themselves. Many, many people will die as a direct result of this departure. Whether it’s your “fight” or not, they are dependent on the US/UK. You dipped your foot in it, so must finish, no matter how long it takes. It’s very easy for you to callously say what you have said. I don’t blame you- most Americans are woefully inept in their education as to what transpires in the world outside of their own neighbourhood, let alone the international happenings.

Truck Stop wrote:

Enter China…

Within a year I predict they roll in to take out the Taliban and do to them what they do to the Uyghars. Another reason they wanted Biden elected, so this very thing would happen.

It's not so easy to take out the Taliban. They're burrowed in the mountainous areas and can retreat into Pakistan if necessary.

There's all been a choice between being the world's policeman or allowing people to suffer and neither option is good.

Well, at least he’s solved your Covid problem…oh wait…delete that. Your southern border is wide open while you wear masks in your own car…

this is it wrote:

Nobody cares. Biden promised to get our troops out of Afghanistan and that's exactly what he's doing. The American public overwhelmingly supports this.

Biden didn't have much choice. Trump arranged to have troops removed by May 1. Biden can try to claim he "ended the war" but it was arranged prior to him ever setting foot in the Oval Office.

There are no questions that americans have failed big time in Afghanistan.

But at one point you have to point the finger first and foremost at the Afghan.

They had 20 years to build an army, all the salary were paid by hte US, they were given years of training, a lot of equipment and ammunitions.

And at the end they just choose to not fight. They are the first to blame and deserve to leave under the talibans because they were not reasy to fight for their freedom.

No, Trump was trying to negotiate a peace agreement with the Taliban that would result in it not occupying Kabul. He said if the Taliban broke the agreement it would suffer drastic consequences. He never had the intent of just handing over the country to the Taliban. I thought his plan was unrealistic and that the Taliban would have broken the agreement within 5 minutes of last U.S. soldier leaving the country.

It ridiculous to say that Biden thought the the Afghans would fight and any general would have told him they wouldn't.

Not one of these posters moaning about people dying in Afghanistan has been paying the slightest bit of attention to the war over the years. Constant blood, huge casualties.

What happened over the past week wasn't a fight, it was the defection of the so-called "Afghan Army" to the Taliban side. It was that decisive, the war is over.

Here's something to chew on: did the Taliban have lockdowns and make everyone wear masks? Have they gone around sticking everyone with vaccines?

Afghanistan would fall whenever we left, in twenty, fifty, one hundred years. Every previous president presiding over Afghanistan lacked the courage to leave because he knew this would happen. Only Joe stood up to the military brass who wanted to have an eternal campaign.

"Here's something to chew on: did the Taliban have lockdowns and make everyone wear masks? Have they gone around sticking everyone with vaccines?"

I assume you're joking:

"The group (Taliban) has been accused of brutally enforcing Sharia, with public executions for those convicted of murder or adultery and amputation for those found guilty of theft. Men had to grow their beards and women had to wear the burka, which covers their whole body "

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

This situation has deteriorated under Biden. This is on him, not Trump. I was not a fan of Trump, but if he was president we would not be watching US Citizens airlifted out of the Kabul embassy as we flee Afghanistan, and I guarantee he would not be begging the Taliban to not attack the embassy in order to save face. Trump recalculated his Afghanistan timelines multiple times based on conditions on the ground. Biden has been Commander in Cheif for 6 months. The buck 100% stops with him.

sign of brainless partisan^^^ Trump Good! Biden Bad!

I give Trump credit for starting this withdrawal and applaud Biden for following through. We've been there 20 years....how much longer did you want us to stay? This just shows how pointless the entire war was. If it was going to fail the moment we left then the sooner we left the better.

Bad Wigins wrote:

Not one of these posters moaning about people dying in Afghanistan has been paying the slightest bit of attention to the war over the years. Constant blood, huge casualties.

What happened over the past week wasn't a fight, it was the defection of the so-called "Afghan Army" to the Taliban side. It was that decisive, the war is over.

Here's something to chew on: did the Taliban have lockdowns and make everyone wear masks? Have they gone around sticking everyone with vaccines?

How bad was the Afghan war really? Only 2,600 casualties. No big deal. Call me when 1-in-a million have died and again I'll explain why it's no big deal.

The Unkle wrote:

Truck Stop wrote:

Enter China…

Within a year I predict they roll in to take out the Taliban and do to them what they do to the Uyghars. Another reason they wanted Biden elected, so this very thing would happen.

Not if they have learned from history.

The Chinese invaded Viet Nam after America left and got their butts handed to them.

Not a lot of people know this as the MSM totally ignored this

Yes, it was a border war fought on the Vietnam/China border. I remember it well as I was in the neighborhood.

jarlsberg wrote:

runnerboy70 wrote:

I didn't vote for Biden but he's doing the right thing here...

It ain't our fight...

The US/UK has been there for 20 years. The afghanis cannot fend for themselves. Many, many people will die as a direct result of this departure. Whether it’s your “fight” or not, they are dependent on the US/UK. You dipped your foot in it, so must finish, no matter how long it takes. It’s very easy for you to callously say what you have said. I don’t blame you- most Americans are woefully inept in their education as to what transpires in the world outside of their own neighbourhood, let alone the international happenings.

Colin Powell: "You break it, you own it."

The Taliban, above all else, is a political organization first. Even they came out against ISIS.

We have been friendly with a number of oppressive regimes over the decades if it served our national security. We even flipped flopped when those regimes were no longer in our favor.

There's going to be a lot of teeth mashing over this for a long time but we ignored what the Taliban were doing before 9/11 and were seemingly just fine when an authoritarian regime took over Afghanistan after the Russians were kicked out.

This stings more now because we had hoped Afghanistan would turn out to be more like Iraq but the tribalism was just too strong to overcome.

It's a failure on par with Vietnam if not greater. Twos cases of winning battles while losing the war.

Alan

Impressive imperialism reversal by the Taliban.

This is both expected (we're trying to leave that country), and good (will minimize deaths to our troops).

There's a reason that part of the world has been at war for over 2,000 years. Don't make this a presidential thing - ANY president. Look at history. Afghanistan will never change.

It will sting a lot more if we have to go back in there because they resume harboring international terrorists. There are already reports of Al Queda moving back in. The idea the Taliban has somehow learned a lesson and will not harbor terrorists who are a threat to America is totally naive. If anything they will be emboldened. I think there is a very real chance with this decade the US and our allies are back in dealing with a much bigger mess than we had before.

Let the slaughter begin.