Sifan Hassan is the best of you all haters and she is CLEAN

westie boy wrote:

Eranu wrote:

Why is it her former coach isnt coaching anymore again?

Not so sure if she's clean or not, but the Salazar association actually HELPS Hassan. Years of investigation and the guy is convicted of giving an assistant coach too many vitamins?

A 4-year ban for "vitamins"? A comment of pure idiocy. He committed significant doping violations. That is what the ban was for. It was an indictment of his professional integrity and sporting ethics, because he knew what he was doing. Nothing accidental or unintentional. That was her coach.

Exactly! Nobody knows for sure, expect the Athlete. Chemists, as always, seemingly are always a step ahead of the Testers. Look at Lance Armstrong, Cierspinski in Montrea and Moscow, and many others. Or, choose to stick your head in the sand and believe what you're being sold. Natham Jessup, put it best: "Can you handle the truth?"

Armstronglivs wrote:

westie boy wrote:

Not so sure if she's clean or not, but the Salazar association actually HELPS Hassan. Years of investigation and the guy is convicted of giving an assistant coach too many vitamins?

A 4-year ban for "vitamins"? A comment of pure idiocy. He committed significant doping violations. That is what the ban was for. It was an indictment of his professional integrity and sporting ethics, because he knew what he was doing. Nothing accidental or unintentional. That was her coach.

"Significant doping violations" yet zero athletes were found to have doped. Do you know something that WADA doesn't?

Number 32 wrote:

westie boy wrote:

Not so sure if she's clean or not, but the Salazar association actually HELPS Hassan. Years of investigation and the guy is convicted of giving an assistant coach too many vitamins?

What about the testosterone patches for teenage Galen?

Probably a similar story to Mo. Carnitine injections and testosterone in the USA, full throttle EPO in remote Ethiopia - don't ask, don't tell.

The testo patches for teenage Galen have been hashed out over and over and over - not gonna beat a dead horse, people will believe whatever fits their narrative.

And yes Mo going off the radar in Ethiopia does raise red flags. Hassan seems to have done all or most of her training in Portland, then subsequently in Europe after changing coaches. Does she train in Ethiopia/Morroco/remote Mexico or somewhere as well?

Hassan is slower than by completely unknown runner Tim Vincent in the 10000. He is ranked #522 this year.

Why should I care about her? A 29:06 high??

Armstronglives is a boring, negative guy who sometimes gets his facts mixed up and other times is incomplete in his analysis. He seems to have a reputable profession (or is that Flagpole?) and a strong grasp of grammar, which puts him toward the top of the letsrun totem pole. But that's not saying much.

A better question, " Why did she run so well and from coach Julian group did not?"

Suguru Osako (Japan)

Shannon Rowbury (USA)

Donavan Brazier (USA)

Craig Engels (USA)

Konstanze Klosterhalfen (Germany)

Jessica Hull (Australia)

Eric Jenkins (USA)

Raevyn Rogers (USA)

Alexa Efraimson (USA)

Jordan Hasay (USA)

Raevyn won bronze...that's pretty decent

I didn't bother reading this stupid thread. Sifan is cheating.

So was Shelby.

So is Galen.

2016OTfan wrote:

A better question, " Why did she run so well and from coach Julian group did not?"

Suguru Osako (Japan)

Shannon Rowbury (USA)

Donavan Brazier (USA)

Craig Engels (USA)

Konstanze Klosterhalfen (Germany)

Jessica Hull (Australia)

Eric Jenkins (USA)

Raevyn Rogers (USA)

Alexa Efraimson (USA)

Jordan Hasay (USA)

Osaka and Rogers ran as well as could be expected. But yeah, 6 of 10 did not even make it to Tokyo.

westie boy wrote:

Eranu wrote:

Why is it her former coach isnt coaching anymore again?

Not so sure if she's clean or not, but the Salazar association actually HELPS Hassan. Years of investigation and the guy is convicted of giving an assistant coach too many vitamins?

What was in the unmarked vials in the refrigerator that AlSal repeatedly asked me to keep cold while cleaning up the NOP rooms in Park City, UT in 2008… ?! Why was there a clear plastic bag of new syringes also found in the bathroom ..?! You are a complete idiot to think anything but guilt … I was there and honestly couldn’t believe he would leave all of this behind and have the balls to ask me to sleep on this; then have me mail it all back to his residence in Portland.

She trains in Park City mostly…pretty easy to follow on her and Rowberry’s social media.

Armstronglivs wrote:

westie boy wrote:

Not so sure if she's clean or not, but the Salazar association actually HELPS Hassan. Years of investigation and the guy is convicted of giving an assistant coach too many vitamins?

A 4-year ban for "vitamins"? A comment of pure idiocy. He committed significant doping violations. That is what the ban was for. It was an indictment of his professional integrity and sporting ethics, because he knew what he was doing. Nothing accidental or unintentional. That was her coach.

This is so stupid I don't know where to begin. L-carnitine is naturally occurring amino acid.

The panel says Salazar made "unintentional mistakes that violated the rules," and that he was "apparently motivated by his desire to provide the very best results and training for athletes under his care."

So, it was unintentional. It involved a legal substance. And it was tested on non competitive athletes.

So, you got it wrong on every count. The panel even said it appeared Salazar was not motivated by any bad intention to commit violations.

We all know your opinions. But they are just that. You claim everyone is doping. You have no facts, only innuendo. Please find another sport to run a smear campaign on.

The women’s silver medalist in the 10k is an obvious doper, too. Who even was that woman?

westie boy wrote:

Armstronglivs wrote:

A 4-year ban for "vitamins"? A comment of pure idiocy. He committed significant doping violations. That is what the ban was for. It was an indictment of his professional integrity and sporting ethics, because he knew what he was doing. Nothing accidental or unintentional. That was her coach.

"Significant doping violations" yet zero athletes were found to have doped. Do you know something that WADA doesn't?

They banned him for 4 years. Do you know something they don't?

AJrunner wrote:

The women’s silver medalist in the 10k is an obvious doper, too. Who even was that woman?

Just another obvious doper.

You are a complete moron. The "he did nothing wrong" defence. A coach is not banned for 4 years for accidental infractions of the anti-doping rules. He is a dirty coach in a dirty sport, defended by endless deniers like yourself.

Faulknerism wrote:

Armstronglives is a boring, negative guy who sometimes gets his facts mixed up and other times is incomplete in his analysis. He seems to have a reputable profession (or is that Flagpole?) and a strong grasp of grammar, which puts him toward the top of the letsrun totem pole. But that's not saying much.

Translation: Armstronglivs presents arguments I don't like about doping in this sport, because I don't like to believe it is a dirty sport.

Armstronglivs wrote:

westie boy wrote:

"Significant doping violations" yet zero athletes were found to have doped. Do you know something that WADA doesn't?

They banned him for 4 years. Do you know something they don't?

It’s not clear what WADA knows at all about Salazar’s violations — it was USADA that conducted the investigation and argued it in front of an arbitration panel.

It’s also not clear from your posts, always lacking specificity, that you even know why Salazar was banned, since all you offer are sweeping statements about the violations being “significant”, and generalizations about “doping in sport(s)”.