Right now, Gudaf Tsegay has the fastest times in the world in the 800, 1500, 3000, 5000, and 10000. Unprecedented?

ukathleticscoach wrote:

colorunner123 wrote:

You may be right, but if so maybe we should be similarly skeptical of most other world-beating runners.

Since EPO was introduced yes.

Sprinters on steroids became obvious since 80's. Half the best American sprinters have been busted

Add on to that non existent out of comp testing and there you go. Conveniently a lot of people just think its the shoes.

Does Genzebe take the 1500 WL tomorrow in Ostrava?

w4t4t wrote:

casual obsever wrote:

Poor examples: Farah and Hassan had such highly suspicious blood values that they were flagged as Likely Doping

As was Henrik Ingebrigtsen. Hmmmm....

And Jager...

So basically every training group is suspicious.

Passant wrote:

DI Coach Here wrote:

Great quiz question.

If this were a male we'd be freaking out.

I do think this is unprecedented.

Said Aouita may have had 800, 1500, 3000, 5000, 10000m... he'd be my only guess.

Said Aouita already in his "unknown phase":

800m 1983 1:44.38 Lausanne (SUI) 30 JUN 1983

He was one of the best kickers ever.

Even when S. Cram set the 1500m WR, Aouita showed his kick in the last 50 meters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPzemlXs9qE

Cram sure looked smooth (like today's Mu). He was barely winded after breaking the WR while Aouita was straining all the way to the line.

girl watcher wrote:

Cram sure looked smooth (like today's Mu). He was barely winded after breaking the WR while Aouita was straining all the way to the line.

That's because Aouita made a tactical error. He was sitting too much behind.

In 1983 final Helsinki, if Aouita didn't start running and pacing the race after before 600m, Cram would probably would have never won and the middle distance history rewritten. Especially Aouita was the performer of the year 1993 in 1500m before the championship.

As I compared a few hours ago Steve Ovett has PB in 800m of 1:44:09

I hate to say it, but I'm not buying. When I saw her finish one of her indoor races and not even look tired i just laughed. Hopefully I'm wrong, but if not I sure hope she gets popped before she tarnishes the Olympics.

is it?! outside of inter-sex athletes That'd pretty much be the WL the last 15 y ears.

Passant wrote:

DI Coach Here wrote:

Great quiz question.

If this were a male we'd be freaking out.

I do think this is unprecedented.

Said Aouita may have had 800, 1500, 3000, 5000, 10000m... he'd be my only guess.

Said Aouita already in his "unknown phase":

800m 1983 1:44.38 Lausanne (SUI) 30 JUN 1983

He was one of the best kickers ever.

Even when S. Cram set the 1500m WR, Aouita showed his kick in the last 50 meters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPzemlXs9qE

No, Aouita was training for the 5000/10000 when he ran the fastest time of the year for 10000. He'd heard that Coe, Cram, and Ovett were moving up to the 5000m, so was planning to move up himself to the 10000m in Seoul.

Similarly, when he ran his fast 800m times in 1983 and 1988, he didn't run a single 5000m race in either of those years.

Compare with Steve Ovett who beat peak Henry Rono over two miles just several weeks after running 1:44 flat (after a suicidal first lap) losing to doper Beyer in the Europeans).

colorunner123 wrote:

birds of a feather wrote:

Pineda is her agent. Say no more.

You may be right, but if so maybe we should be similarly skeptical of most other world-beating runners.

You clearly don't know who Pineda is.

Widely recognised as a front for Jama Aden. In 2019 he had one teen athlete busted for EPO in Sweden, and the next day an Ethiopian 21 year old athlete died of a mystery illness. Whenever I post about this, the mods delete it.

Oh Please wrote:

Jo72 wrote:

3 of them are indoor if I am not mistaken and after an indoor season heavily restricted by covid or with athletes skipping it because of the Olympics. Does that make it less extraordinary or suspect? I don't know.

Lets try this again: An athlete has world lead in the 800 as well as the 10,000, and everything in between.

Could you imagine Joshua Cheptegi leading the world in the 800 right now? Or Donovan Brazier running a world leading 10,000?

Your summary is spot on.

Naturally not possible to have that kind of range at world leading times.

Hope she and her handlers get busted and never allowed to compete or operate again.

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Great post.