Not even peaking for the trials, peaking for Tokyo. He can't challenge Cheruiyot or Ingebrigtsen but he could easily take the bronze with his competitive edge.
Not even peaking for the trials, peaking for Tokyo. He can't challenge Cheruiyot or Ingebrigtsen but he could easily take the bronze with his competitive edge.
"Jake Heyward is back too. Big pb for the former European U20 and U18 champion (when he beat Jakob)."
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You mean the final where Jakob had a fall which prevented him from becoming a triple gold medallist? (Jakob won the 5000m and 3000m st with ease)
objectiveobserver wrote:
"Jake Heyward is back too. Big pb for the former European U20 and U18 champion (when he beat Jakob)."
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You mean the final where Jakob had a fall which prevented him from becoming a triple gold medallist? (Jakob won the 5000m and 3000m st with ease)
Yes, that's the one.
I am not a hater, not regarding any athlete and certainly not regarding Centro, but I have doubted very much that he still "had it". And I must now admit that he looked much better yesterday than he has done for the last year and a half.
BUT.............. he still has to run about 5 seconds faster to compete with the best: Timothy, Jakob, Wightman, McSweyn, Hoare and perhaps Filip, Kerr and some surprises SINCE he probably won´t get a race like the 1500m Rio final again. And can he at the age of 31 challenge his 3.30 from 2015? I think that would be quite unusual!
On the other hand I agree with others on this thread that he must now be a favorite to make the US OL team in the 1500m.
Think of how poopy some of the 5k guys diapers would be if they saw that masterful execution and had to figure out how to run away from a 13:00 guy or outkick a guy who can probably close the last K in 2:22 off 65s.
Was pleasantly surprised by how he ran yesterday and I now think he'll make the 1500 team but he's in the wrong event if he wants to be competitive globally. Should definitely run the 5000 at Worlds next year.
objectiveobserver wrote:
I am not a hater, not regarding any athlete and certainly not regarding Centro, but I have doubted very much that he still "had it". And I must now admit that he looked much better yesterday than he has done for the last year and a half.
BUT.............. he still has to run about 5 seconds faster to compete with the best: Timothy, Jakob, Wightman, McSweyn, Hoare and perhaps Filip, Kerr and some surprises SINCE he probably won´t get a race like the 1500m Rio final again. And can he at the age of 31 challenge his 3.30 from 2015? I think that would be quite unusual!
On the other hand I agree with others on this thread that he must now be a favorite to make the US OL team in the 1500m.
That 3:35 he ran yesterday look pretty easy. I have no doubt he could run 2-3s faster in the right race. Depending on how the Olympics play out, that could be good enough for a medal.
objectiveobserver wrote:
I am not a hater, not regarding any athlete and certainly not regarding Centro, but I have doubted very much that he still "had it". And I must now admit that he looked much better yesterday than he has done for the last year and a half.
BUT.............. he still has to run about 5 seconds faster to compete with the best: Timothy, Jakob, Wightman, McSweyn, Hoare and perhaps Filip, Kerr and some surprises SINCE he probably won´t get a race like the 1500m Rio final again. And can he at the age of 31 challenge his 3.30 from 2015? I think that would be quite unusual!
On the other hand I agree with others on this thread that he must now be a favorite to make the US OL team in the 1500m.
With Cheruiyot & Ingebrigsten, this Olympics may play out fast from the gun but typically championship 1500s are tactical.
Most tactical 1500s don't break 3:30 and the Olympic record is 3:32.
Centrowitz is a dominant tactical championship racer and beat a 3:26 runner in 2016 to win the gold.
Jakob and Tim aside, none of the rest of your list registers as worthy yet of direct comparison despite the recent success of each.
In fact, guaranteed many on that list won't make it to the finals. ..... Experience matters too
runderun wrote:
Not even peaking for the trials, peaking for Tokyo. He can't challenge Cheruiyot or Ingebrigtsen but he could easily take the bronze with his competitive edge.
Do you remember who was in the field in 2016???
He beat Kiprop, Souleiman, Makhloufi, and Willis, among others. I'm not saying it was the greatest Olympic 1500m field of all time, but he beat some studs who were on fire that season. We may not have a 3:50 final ever again (on the men's side, at least), but if it's in the 3:30s, I won't be suprised if Ceontrowitz wins. If it's a 3:35+ race, he WILL win.
rojo wrote:
Wheating's interview was fantastic.
1 good race does not mean that he is back. Still is having a bad season.
yasou wrote:
rojo wrote:
Wheating's interview was fantastic.
1 good race does not mean that he is back. Still is having a bad season.
Cope
Centro has the weirdest stride. Heels first, yet very short ground phase...
The way Centro carried himself pre-race foreshadowed a dominating race.
Bad season? It’s the middle of May coming out of COVID!
someone who was there wrote:
The way Centro carried himself pre-race foreshadowed a dominating race.
Bad season? It’s the middle of May coming out of COVID!
Excuse Train is strong on this thread.
Centro beat the reigning World and Olympic champions and a few people with sub 3:30 PRs in the 2016 Final.
That may have been the toughest Olympic Final anyone bear before
Dominates what? I just crushed my 12 yr old cousin in a 1500, I think I'm ready for the Olys too!!
It doesnt take much for the Centro fanboys to start slobbering over his knob all over again. I was expecting something earth shattering here but then it turns out it's a nothingburger and several things immediately stand out.
1) 3:35.26 is exciting if you want to win the ACC 1500 championship. Maybe.
2) His close competition was a recently injured youngster in Heyward & 10000 meter runners Scott & Fisher.
3) If he ran against even decent competition like Kerr or Hoare he would have been destroyed by 2+ seconds.
4) All in all if this is the best he can do then might as well hang them up but then what are the Centro worshippers going to do with their shrines?
If you follow the sport, you’d know that’s a good sign with the Trials more than a month away and the Games in early August.
If he ran 3:32 my first thought would be too soon.
If he faded and was caught, I’d be concerned about his fitness.
Test levels are peaking after shelbo dumped him (lord knows why)
Hate on haters
KB in da house wrote:
Dominates what? I just crushed my 12 yr old cousin in a 1500, I think I'm ready for the Olys too!!
It doesnt take much for the Centro fanboys to start slobbering over his knob all over again. I was expecting something earth shattering here but then it turns out it's a nothingburger and several things immediately stand out.
1) 3:35.26 is exciting if you want to win the ACC 1500 championship. Maybe.
2) His close competition was a recently injured youngster in Heyward & 10000 meter runners Scott & Fisher.
3) If he ran against even decent competition like Kerr or Hoare he would have been destroyed by 2+ seconds.
4) All in all if this is the best he can do then might as well hang them up but then what are the Centro worshippers going to do with their shrines?
Obvious troll is obvious, but I'll bite; why not? I'm not a Centro fanboi, but I respect his ability to deliver and for being the most consistent American-born 1500m runner since Steve Scott.
1) 3:36 has been broken by EIGHT men in the NCAA during outdoor season, all time. So that's a pretty weak hot take. ACC has a solid mid-d history, but before 2021, a sub-3:36 would have people jumping and screaming.
2) So should we negate Cole+Hocker's indoor Mile? Nuguse' recent 3:35? Webb's 3:46? Because of "weak competition?" He ran 3:35 and made it look eeeasy.
3) Kerr broken 3:35 TWICE and Hoare has dipped under FOUR times in their careers. Centro has TWENTY TWO TIMES. Maybe you want to chat with Leer, Merber, Engels, or JMac about how hot their 3:34 PR and singular World Indoors/IAAF Relays trophy's are?
4) Nice, so the reigning Gold medalist and 3rd all-time American with 3:30.40 should just bail because he didn't impress you enough?
"He beat Kiprop, Souleiman, Makhloufi, and Willis, among others. I'm not saying it was the greatest Olympic 1500m field of all time, but he beat some studs who were on fire that season. We may not have a 3:50 final ever again (on the men's side, at least), but if it's in the 3:30s, I won't be suprised if Ceontrowitz wins. If it's a 3:35+ race, he WILL win. "
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I think the patriotism takes over here!
Centro has not won a race against the top runners since Rio 2016!
Last time he won a DL 1500m was London 2018 where Timothy, Manangoi, Filip and Jakob were absent.
There has been many occasions in the last years where Centro had a chance to take pace from the faster runners but even so he was not able to hang on to finish fast. See fore example the Bowerman miles in 2018 and 2019, DL Monaco 2017 and 2018 and the 1500m final in Doha 2019.
So why should he be better now where he has turned 31?
Isn't supposed to be "Centro is back BABY!