multiparous wrote:
covid covid wrote:
6 x 1600 at 4:21 w 3:00 rest is not that impressive. It essentially says Klecker is in 28 min 10k shape.
Pfffffft...only on letsrun...
Can’t make this kind of stuff up.
A 28min 10k rubber could not run that workout
DC Runner 4 wrote:
TrackFan1979 wrote:
You forgot to mention Longmont. We have an excellent trail by the Lagerman Reservoir.
No one moves to that area to live in Longmont
The only people moving to Boulder with a household income under $150K are college students and "elite" runners. And many of the latter wise up after a few years of scrounging and a dozen roommates and head further out in the county.
Six fig out of school?
Please help me here. In need of that job.
free shipping with purchase wrote:
Ritzenhein has done a pretty good job with Stinson - AR in the 25k and 2:10. This is all in the setting of Stinson being an incredibly immature and impetuous athlete - not a good mix when you have long blocks of training to sabotage and a couple hours of racing in which to do something boneheaded.
I think Ritzenhein will be of the "do as I say, not as I did" school when it comes to coaching. I've read some interviews in which he is very self-aware of the mistakes he made as an athlete, and he's mature and introspective enough to learn from them.
Klecker is not an otherwordly talent but is mature, likes to work, and races well. I could see him ultimately running in the 13:05 / 27:15 (taking the Minnesota state record from Nenow) / 2:09 realm.
Of all the people they are taking a chance on, Wheating is the surprise for me. That guy had limitless potential as an athlete, blew it, then has done nothing since except be a goofball. Hopefully he's not controlling the budget.
The words about Tinman may sting but it is absolutely true.
Carrie Tollefson had the story in June 2020 published in her podcast
The Ghost of Brian Sell wrote:
usnspecialist wrote:
You cant really count the HS and college coaches in that total.
Then 3 distinctly different coaches in a pro career is curiously (though not ridiculously) high, regardless of career length. Of course, one of those changes was necessitated by being dropped by a sponsor, so it's akin to being traded or being released to free agency in the NBA. Hopefully Ritz turns out to be a better coach than his first coach as a pro.
Exactly. With the loss in sponsorship change not counting , he's 'made' two coaching changes in his career.
The other men will be Olli Hoare, Geordie Beamish and Carlos Villareal.
Alician Monson is one of the 4 women. I am not sure on the rest.
Based on her instagram, I'm guessing Leah O'Connor (now Falland) and Emily Oren are other woman.
Basically the whole point of the article seemed to be that Tinman Elite sucks, or I missed something.
who?
DC Runner 4 wrote:
multiparous wrote:
Pfffffft...only on letsrun...
Can’t make this kind of stuff up.
A 28min 10k rubber could not run that workout
I wouldn’t say 28 minutes is too unreasonable. That’s a pretty common Salazar workout, which is where Ritz got it from. Considering it’s at altitude I’d say maybe closer to 27:40 or so. But definitely in that 27:40-28:00 range.
Out-of-Wedlock-Danny wrote:
any reason the ON guy had to throw Tinman Elite so far under the bus with his comments?
Because TME gets so much attention among runners and On basically doesn't? DeKoker is clearly insanely jealous of the attention TME generates for Adidas with so little investment from Adidas. It's not like DeKoker exactly signed Grant Fisher and Dani Jones, either. Maybe Klecker will beat Hunter at the OT, but the rest of them aren't exactly world beaters in the making. Whenever On is mentioned on these boards, the majority of comments are on how poorly the shoes perform. At least they're popular with the yoga and Pilates chicks for their styling? I'm guessing they're failing in run specialty.
6 x Mile at that pace at sea level would be a sign one could maybe dip under 28 if things went perfectly, such as a Peyton Jordan time trial race.
But that workout at sea level is going after the A standard fitness. 27:40 type shape in the right race
According to instagram post of Cayce Reese, Joe Klecker went sub 4 at presumably altitude- 3:58.4 . Would be the first to do it on Colorado soil if true. Impressive start for ON.
Read the entries wrote:
Based on her instagram, I'm guessing Leah O'Connor (now Falland) and Emily Oren are other woman.
Yeah Leah O'Connor(Falland) and her new hubby Louis are coached by Ritz. Actually she has been out in CO the last couple weeks. So maybe she is one of the athletes yet to be announced. Forgot who else he coaches, but there is a decent mix of under 10k racers. They are (were?) frequently training on a local HS track, so maybe not anymore...bummer.
Never heard of ON. The only ON I'm familiar with is ON semiconductor. Is this a subsidiary?
[quote]sizlin wrote:
... That’s a pretty common Salazar workout, which is where Ritz got it from. ... /quote]
Six by a mile is as much a "Salazar workout" as a ten mile run is. It's bread and butter.
KleckerSub4 wrote:
According to instagram post of Cayce Reese, Joe Klecker went sub 4 at presumably altitude- 3:58.4 . Would be the first to do it on Colorado soil if true. Impressive start for ON.
Maybe he wasn’t the first to do it...
Wasn't a fan of the group until the founder took a dump on Tinman. Now I will be rooting for OAC.
I could even see some Tinman athletes defecting soon. If you had to pick between Ritz and Tinman as a coach, Ritz is better in every way.
free shipping with purchases wrote:
[quote]sizlin wrote:
... That’s a pretty common Salazar workout, which is where Ritz got it from. ... /quote]
Six by a mile is as much a "Salazar workout" as a ten mile run is. It's bread and butter.
I brought it up because of the salazar/Ritz connection. Thanks for the completely unnecessary and useless remark on my post. Appreciate it.
Ritz was insanely talented at XC and yet ran World XC one(!) time as a senior. And he was insanely talented at the half marathon and yet insisted on running bad full marathons for a decade. So as long as he is not incompetent at assigning his guys to events I’d say he can surpass the coaching he received.