A bunch of HSer are going to try to go sub-4 in the mile on Saturday (May 23)

Correct. Boyden holds the record of 4:05 achieved in March 2020 running basically alone. (beating NXN 2x champion Clinger’s previous record).

Are Sprout and salted going down to Sea level? The town in Utah is at 4500 ft and the one in CO is 5900. They’re not breaking 4 without altitude adjustment or going down to sea level. Sprout Hs the best chance of any of them by the way.

You don't need a sub 4 guy to pace the mile.

The pacer drops out between 800 and 1000m.

Any 2:00 800m guy could probably do it.

The pacer is more important than most people realize.

Several years ago at the dream mile the pacer ran splits of :56 - 1:04.

He hit 800m in 2 flat, but he blew up the field on the first lap.

Also most runners are too far behind the pacer to take advantage of

the drafting effect. You want to be within a meter of the pacer and often

the runner is 2 meters back which means the draft advantage is a lot less

and he has to work harder than he should have to.

Hopefully they pull this off with proper preparation.

runricerun wrote:

No one has ever gone sub 4 on a track in Utah.

Well, I wouldn't say Doug Padilla is nobody.

It would be nice to know the stats of the pacer.

CO Watcher wrote:

nowayhewill wrote:

No way Easton Allred will break four

Easton Allred will win this race in 3:58 and you will look like a fool.

Easton has never broke 2:00 minutes for 800 and his shuffle style doesn't look like it could go sub 55 for 400.

Fitness means a lot and he's got it but I'd say he's way out of his sweet spot here.

Plus, isn't he a homeschooler who actually academically "graduated" HS three years ago and is actually 19yo??

He ran 4:09 as a soph so I wouldn't worry too much. I am curious about his age and college eligibility. He tested out of high school and started college. He then went back to high school. Is his eligibility clock already ticking?

past his prime wrote:

runricerun wrote:

No one has ever gone sub 4 on a track in Utah.

Well, I wouldn't say Doug Padilla is nobody.

^^This

Disko Eric wrote:

Can this be legitimatized? Are they racing? Just a time trial? It would suck to go sub 4 and it not count for records

Honestly, who cares.

It'll be recorded on video, and they'll know what they did. Coaches will be able to see it, too.

No need for it to be 'official'. Just go for it, boys.

Fasterer, did you even watch the video posted earlier in the thread? He breaks 2 on the first rep of the workout...

FWIW he split 1:55 on a 4x8 relay earlier this year.

As "coach of fast" mentions, he ran 4:09 mile as a Soph, but has unfortuntaely dealt with a string of ilnesses, surgeries, and injuries since his Junior XC season (where he was 5th at NXN, in front of Nico Young). It's funny how quickly people are forgotten here on LetsRun, but we have every reason to believe a healthy Easton is talented enough to run a mile as fast as anyone in his graduating class.

Glad to see CO watcher back in action, giving the CO Hs'ers (and former CO HS'ers) the credit they deserve.

Coach JS Fan wrote:

Fasterer, did you even watch the video posted earlier in the thread? He breaks 2 on the first rep of the workout...

FWIW he split 1:55 on a 4x8 relay earlier this year.

As "coach of fast" mentions, he ran 4:09 mile as a Soph, but has unfortuntaely dealt with a string of ilnesses, surgeries, and injuries since his Junior XC season (where he was 5th at NXN, in front of Nico Young). It's funny how quickly people are forgotten here on LetsRun, but we have every reason to believe a healthy Easton is talented enough to run a mile as fast as anyone in his graduating class.

Glad to see CO watcher back in action, giving the CO Hs'ers (and former CO HS'ers) the credit they deserve.

CO has some great runners right now. Easton isn't one of them (besides being "from" Utah now). Culppeper and Ohlson are definitely faster and Sprout has never lost to Allred in actual distance events let alone mid distance where speed actually matters, a lot.

Some other considerations in regards to your very optimistic assessment of Allred's potential in this race:

-Easton ran 4:09 as a 17 y.o. "soph" (He had already "graduated") and hasn't run faster since, running a 4:18 1600 just a month ago.

-Easton has run as fast as 15:11 for 5k xc this past season but ran 14:41 the year before. 30 second off one year later.

-Easton has never won a 1600 or mile race

-Easton has hardly raced track (or xc) since, and has yet to run close to his "soph" pr

-Easton maybe shouldn't even be included here as he may already be 19, should be in college already, both age wise and especially since he "finished" HS years ago.

-Easton's "1:55 in a relay" isn't anywhere near the widely accepted low 1:50s necessary for sub 4 regardless of fitness. (Tinman had Hunter running 1:48 before his sub4s for reference)

Easton is a very talented distance runner, but I would be shocked if he comes anywhere near 4.

Two mile and up would be a better distance for him to display his skill set. ...And maybe he should be racing for that PR in college now.

He broke 9 at altitude buddy #GOAT

He broke 2 in a workout buddy #GOAT

He won his first college race... in high school #GOAT

CO Watcher wrote:

He broke 9 at altitude buddy #GOAT

He broke 2 in a workout buddy #GOAT

He won his first college race... in high school #GOAT

Paging Mr Allred! Paging Mr Allred!

Mr Allred, we do acknowledge your son, Easton, is a talented runner.

We hope he does well this weekend and in the future.

Now, please, get back on your meds.

Immediately!

correct:

2551 3:57.23A Doug Padilla USA 04.10.56 1 Provo 21.05.1983

I agree ...

He won't break 4 ... based on the workout from the video, he's looking more like a 4:06-7 range.

Lots and lots of misinformation on this thread- bad advice, wrong info on specific athletes, mistaken claims- it has it all. Just let these guys run!

It's a shame Schoppe and Culpepper aren't in this.

Coach JS Fan wrote:

Fasterer, did you even watch the video posted earlier in the thread? He breaks 2 on the first rep of the workout...

FWIW he split 1:55 on a 4x8 relay earlier this year.

As "coach of fast" mentions, he ran 4:09 mile as a Soph, but has unfortuntaely dealt with a string of ilnesses, surgeries, and injuries since his Junior XC season (where he was 5th at NXN, in front of Nico Young). It's funny how quickly people are forgotten here on LetsRun, but we have every reason to believe a healthy Easton is talented enough to run a mile as fast as anyone in his graduating class.

Glad to see CO watcher back in action, giving the CO Hs'ers (and former CO HS'ers) the credit they deserve.

Nico was 4th at NXN in 2018 with Easton 5th. Just saying

Where in California is this? Near Jesuit?