Stick around any maybe you'll learn even more new vocab words.
- Harambe , 6th grade English
Ooohhh… I got this…
I know you are but what am I? Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.
We only exist to mock you dude because you are so in love with yourself. That’s the only reason we are still here. You believe in god, you’re a libertarian, and Omicron didn’t end the pandemic. What other frauds would you like to promulgate today?
Like I said, you are captivated by my presence. You can't leave. It's quite flattering knowing you simply cannot get Harambe out of your head.
Promulgate is a good one. You get a gold 'vocab star' you can put on your star sheet for the week. All you need is a 'recess sharing' star and you're halfway to a pizza lunch!
i had a covid denier in law die of the virus but refused to go to the hospital because he'd be admitting the whole thing he thought was a hoax, existed. let it kill him instead. i had a college suitemate die of the virus who knew what was happening, tested positive on a home test, and died in hospital ventilated.
by your absurd argument the guy who refused care and died in his recliner counts but the guy who spent weeks in hospital ICU doesn't.
this is about denying science and modern medicine. this has nothing to do with reality.
the funny thing is, for all the implied smack talk about what saves/extends lives, the denier was dead in a couple days, rapidly, his immune system didn't save him, and my immunocompromised friend lasted weeks and even briefly got home before rebounding to hospital for his last days.
last point, all the pre-smallpox history of pandemics killing off 1/3 of europe, etc. -- that's what your immune system alone manages on its own. and re a coronavirus the pro-natural immunity argument is silly. i read some papers when covid was getting going. you know how long coronavirus immunity lasts? MONTHS. this is not chicken pox, get it once and done til old age. this is the relative of the cold you can get every year. so your natural immunity buys you little break. you get it one cold season you are at risk the next.
that's setting aside people taking horse dewormer when worms and viruses have different immune cells.
i don't think you folks are on even the same planet as reality on this.
i had a covid denier in law die of the virus but refused to go to the hospital because he'd be admitting the whole thing he thought was a hoax, existed. let it kill him instead. i had a college suitemate die of the virus who knew what was happening, tested positive on a home test, and died in hospital ventilated.
by your absurd argument the guy who refused care and died in his recliner counts but the guy who spent weeks in hospital ICU doesn't.
this is about denying science and modern medicine. this has nothing to do with reality.
the funny thing is, for all the implied smack talk about what saves/extends lives, the denier was dead in a couple days, rapidly, his immune system didn't save him, and my immunocompromised friend lasted weeks and even briefly got home before rebounding to hospital for his last days.
last point, all the pre-smallpox history of pandemics killing off 1/3 of europe, etc. -- that's what your immune system alone manages on its own. and re a coronavirus the pro-natural immunity argument is silly. i read some papers when covid was getting going. you know how long coronavirus immunity lasts? MONTHS. this is not chicken pox, get it once and done til old age. this is the relative of the cold you can get every year. so your natural immunity buys you little break. you get it one cold season you are at risk the next.
that's setting aside people taking horse dewormer when worms and viruses have different immune cells.
i don't think you folks are on even the same planet as reality on this.
They're in too deep. They made too many crazy statements at the start of COVID and/or when vaccines were rolled out. Their egos don't let them change their mind so they have say things like: "Yeah, hundreds of thousands of unvaccinated people died from Delta and Omicron, but I was right in telling people not to get the vaccine" and stuff like that.
personally i hear some sort of conservative political lawyer a half step behind the supposed skeptics and "freethinkers." you needed some sort of legal excuse to buck common sense public policy. this is not about reality. this is about excuses to say no.
if you think i am making this up, this "dying with" or "dying from" discussion reeks of lawyerly semantics. i don't think many scientists or MDs worth their degrees would be questioning whether someone who died hacking up a lung on a ventilator in hospital having strokes died from covid. or at least that would be the likely cause. only an ambulance chaser would be like, no, they died from the ventilator, they died from getting covid meds and not the horse dewormer the family wanted. they should have let their immune system battle on its own (and kill them in a day instead of a month).
and my guess is when run through a courthouse those cases probably go over as well as an election denier does.
personally i hear some sort of conservative political lawyer a half step behind the supposed skeptics and "freethinkers." you needed some sort of legal excuse to buck common sense public policy. this is not about reality. this is about excuses to say no.
if you think i am making this up, this "dying with" or "dying from" discussion reeks of lawyerly semantics. i don't think many scientists or MDs worth their degrees would be questioning whether someone who died hacking up a lung on a ventilator in hospital having strokes died from covid. or at least that would be the likely cause. only an ambulance chaser would be like, no, they died from the ventilator, they died from getting covid meds and not the horse dewormer the family wanted. they should have let their immune system battle on its own (and kill them in a day instead of a month).
and my guess is when run through a courthouse those cases probably go over as well as an election denier does.
Countless COVID-denier and antivaxxer blogosphere members have threatened massive court cases for the various crimes against humanity they allege happened.
Strangely... these cases have never gone anywhere? Must be a conspiracy.
there is also a basic ignorance of public health doctrine, good sense, or epidemiology. if a respiratory virus is spreading maybe don't have people on top of people, maybe wear a good mask. common sense. the precise distance, the precise quality mask, it's guesswork. but protecting oneself from the world used to common conservative sense. it tells me how politicized things have gotten that people will risk death to make a political point at odds with reality.
along those lines, while, yes, kids usually don't die from covid, and they can go to school without killing off each other, that's not really the point. the point to anyone who ever took epidemiology 101 is schools spread disease like wildfire. it's the adults who get sick from the carrier kids mixing, is what we are really worried about.
as it stands the US got slapped around by covid, and having in some states banned mask or vaccine mandates, i expect us to get destroyed if a superserious pandemic ever hits. and IMO the folks who want business as usual will watch basic civilizational breakdown. health and safety is a necessary basis for a running capitalist economy. if everyone gets sick we can't work, make goods and medicine, produce food, secure food, keep the power on, etc. we have learned the backwards of the correct lesson.
but then try explaining that to folks who can't seem to get the contradiction between obsessing about mexican or muslim immigrants in general while doing little about the chinese hopping planes during covid.
we were ridiculously bad at covid. NZ got like 2550 dead. mind you, they are 1/60 our size, but multiply that by 60 and you're at 150k dead. land of oz was 20k dead with 1/12 our size. that works out to 300k dead at our scale.
we killed 1.2m people.
this used to be a more practical place but is becoming one big pro wrestling steel cage of politics. all show and about who will have the championship belt for a few weeks.
we were ridiculously bad at covid. NZ got like 2550 dead. mind you, they are 1/60 our size, but multiply that by 60 and you're at 150k dead. land of oz was 20k dead with 1/12 our size. that works out to 300k dead at our scale.
we killed 1.2m people.
this used to be a more practical place but is becoming one big pro wrestling steel cage of politics. all show and about who will have the championship belt for a few weeks.
Per the official establishment numbers, highly jabb'ed nations suffered far more from Covid than did the lowly jabb'ed nations
we were ridiculously bad at covid. NZ got like 2550 dead. mind you, they are 1/60 our size, but multiply that by 60 and you're at 150k dead. land of oz was 20k dead with 1/12 our size. that works out to 300k dead at our scale.
we killed 1.2m people.
this used to be a more practical place but is becoming one big pro wrestling steel cage of politics. all show and about who will have the championship belt for a few weeks.
Per the official establishment numbers, highly jabb'ed nations suffered far more from Covid than did the lowly jabb'ed nations
Lol Unkle this talking point has been refuted about 10 times over the years on these boards alone yet you still spam it.
It's a New Year and it's time to consolidate some of the covid threads. We've deleted hundreds of them but it just makes more sense to be official about consolidation. So this thread is for anything related to the Covid vacci...