Honestly I'd be a bit surprised if De Santis runs. He could suffer an embarrassment of epic proportions, and right wingers really really hate being humiliated. Trump was humiliated and started a coup as a response.
Here, De S isn't even winning his home state. That's got to hurt.
The only caveat I'd give is that Trump is likely to be under multiple indictments...that *might* open a window for someone else.
Not sure I'm following your logic here. How would Trump becoming even more adored by GOPers (and - cough, cough - "Libertarians") open the window for someone else?
Not sure I'm following your logic here. How would Trump becoming even more adored by GOPers (and - cough, cough - "Libertarians") open the window for someone else?
ach sometimes I do not like this country
What are the things you like about the country? Do you consider yourself patriotic?
Jan 6 was most certainly not a coup. Insufficient blood was spilled and people wore red hats proving they were Patriots that love their country.
Would you call it a violent insurrection?
Nope. Because it didn't actually succeed. Biden is in office. And Trump is not in jail. Also Nancy Pelosi something.
How about an attempt to stop the peaceful transition of power that has existed for 200+ years in this country?
Nope. Those were just Peaceful Patriotic tourists that knew the truth about election fraud. BTW, Hillary denied that Trump was duly elected. See. Same thing.
Who deserves to pay for causing Jan 6th?
Antifa!
Why would Trump pardon Antifa and let them back onto the street?
How we try to help our poor people...via a highly graduated tax system and government help.
Compared to other advanced democracies, we are not good at this.
eh it's a weird call.
The thing is that standards of living in the US are far higher than in our peer nations..so while if you are measuring inequality we look bad...but if we look at raw living standards we look quite good. Two different ways to look at things. I think raw living standards are better than inequality measures.
And we did a great job getting kids out of poverty, until the Rs gutted the program recently.
Compared to other advanced democracies, we are not good at this.
eh it's a weird call.
The thing is that standards of living in the US are far higher than in our peer nations..so while if you are measuring inequality we look bad...but if we look at raw living standards we look quite good. Two different ways to look at things. I think raw living standards are better than inequality measures.
And we did a great job getting kids out of poverty, until the Rs gutted the program recently.
The bottom 10% in the US live at lower standards than the bottom 10% of most other OECD countries.
The US has one of the worst social mobility among OECD countries.
Go to OECD's website, they have all the data on this.
What are the things you like about the country? Do you consider yourself patriotic?
the vast wealth and opportunity
the higher education system
the small government
the lack of an aristocracy
the lack of a racial/religious definition of 'American' and therefore how well people of all races/religions can do here.
the great cultural accomplishments in almost every genre
pride in having a democracy of some form survive for 230ish years.
pride in how this country genuinely tries to do the right thing. It fails a lot but the motive is actually good.
The geography - purple mountain majesty, etc. What a place.
How we try to help our poor people...via a highly graduated tax system and government help.
I don't know what 'patriotic' means. It's a vague, bad word I don't use myself. It means something different to everyone.
Weird (to me) that at least one person down voted your post. I think your post was extremely well said and entirely positive.
I might add:
The high percentage of genuinely kind people.
The scientific acheivements
The optimistic spirit of the people
The belief, shared by many, that anything can be done
One could go on. It's a great place.
Note 1) I realize that the above does not fit well with the notion and mentality of m-a.g-a
Note 2) I once walked across this nation - coast to coast. Nothing on me but the clothes on my back and a good pocket knife. The experience helped form my belief that there are a high percentage of genuinely kind people.
the lack of a racial/religious definition of 'American' and therefore how well people of all races/religions can do here.
the great cultural accomplishments in almost every genre
pride in having a democracy of some form survive for 230ish years.
pride in how this country genuinely tries to do the right thing. It fails a lot but the motive is actually good.
The geography - purple mountain majesty, etc. What a place.
How we try to help our poor people...via a highly graduated tax system and government help.
I don't know what 'patriotic' means. It's a vague, bad word I don't use myself. It means something different to everyone.
Weird (to me) that at least one person down voted your post. I think your post was extremely well said and entirely positive.
I might add:
The high percentage of genuinely kind people.
The scientific acheivements
The optimistic spirit of the people
The belief, shared by many, that anything can be done
One could go on. It's a great place.
Note 1) I realize that the above does not fit well with the notion and mentality of m-a.g-a
Note 2) I once walked across this nation - coast to coast. Nothing on me but the clothes on my back and a good pocket knife. The experience helped form my belief that there are a high percentage of genuinely kind people.
I once heard an immigration explain when he fell in love with America and how to get to know the nation. He said go to a small country fair and take in the quiet confidence. That all was well, basically. Or at least are fixable. I hope that still stands.
JUST IN: Federal officials say Trump and his family failed to report more than 100 foreign gifts to the State Department— with a total value of nearly $300,000 — in violation of federal law.” Crucially, two gifts received by Trump and his family from foreign nations *ARE MISSING* including a life-size painting of Trump from the president of El Salvador and golf clubs from the Japanese prime minister.
you guys know that none of this is normal, right? Lawyers of presidents normally don’t know about the prez’crimws. And we aren’t prosecuting associates of the former Pres for years afterwards.
this is why the GOP is the most dangerous organization in America.
NEWS — Judge Beryl Howell says in a new order that Justice Department prosecutors have met the threshold for the crime-fraud exception for Trump attorney Evan Corcoran, ordering additional testimony from him, a person familiar with the matter tells me.
the lack of a racial/religious definition of 'American' and therefore how well people of all races/religions can do here.
the great cultural accomplishments in almost every genre
pride in having a democracy of some form survive for 230ish years.
pride in how this country genuinely tries to do the right thing. It fails a lot but the motive is actually good.
The geography - purple mountain majesty, etc. What a place.
How we try to help our poor people...via a highly graduated tax system and government help.
I don't know what 'patriotic' means. It's a vague, bad word I don't use myself. It means something different to everyone.
Weird (to me) that at least one person down voted your post. I think your post was extremely well said and entirely positive.
I might add:
The high percentage of genuinely kind people.
The scientific acheivements
The optimistic spirit of the people
The belief, shared by many, that anything can be done
One could go on. It's a great place.
Note 1) I realize that the above does not fit well with the notion and mentality of m-a.g-a
Note 2) I once walked across this nation - coast to coast. Nothing on me but the clothes on my back and a good pocket knife. The experience helped form my belief that there are a high percentage of genuinely kind people.
Nice post, Hooma (Real Obvi) and very impressed that you walked coast to coast. That is quite the accomplishment. Not sure why you had to include the dig at MaAGA.
The thing is that standards of living in the US are far higher than in our peer nations..so while if you are measuring inequality we look bad...but if we look at raw living standards we look quite good. Two different ways to look at things. I think raw living standards are better than inequality measures.
And we did a great job getting kids out of poverty, until the Rs gutted the program recently.
The bottom 10% in the US live at lower standards than the bottom 10% of most other OECD countries.
The US has one of the worst social mobility among OECD countries.
Go to OECD's website, they have all the data on this.
Ok I went to the OECD website, and the OECD does just what I said - offers a measurement of inequality inside a nation rather than raw living standards across borders and calls that 'poverty.' . (Unless we are looking at different pages.) Here's the OECD's definition of poverty inside a nation. Clearly it's relative to that nation alone, not other nations.
OECD: The poverty rate is the ratio of the number of people (in a given age group) whose income falls below the poverty line; taken as half the median household income of the total population.
If we are talking raw living standards compared across borders, inequality does not enter into it.
If you want a better study, there are many that say something like this - that Americans simply live on a higher economic plane than our peers.
A groundbreaking study by Just Facts has discovered that after accounting for all income, charity, and non-cash welfare benefits like subsidized housing and food stamps, the poorest 20 percent of Americans consume more goods and services than the national averages for all people in most affluent countries. This includes the majority of countries in the prestigious Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), including its European members. In other words, if the US “poor” were a nation, it would be one of the world’s richest.
NEWS — Judge Beryl Howell says in a new order that Justice Department prosecutors have met the threshold for the crime-fraud exception for Trump attorney Evan Corcoran, ordering additional testimony from him, a person familiar with the matter tells me.
"The Poorest 20% of Americans Are Richer on Average Than Most European Nations"--the key term needs to be highlighted.
I have no reason to doubt the veracity of that statement about the averageof the poorest twenty percent. But the statement about the average of the bottom quintile can be true, and the bottom 5 (or so) % can still live terribly.
I participate in/donate to a food exchange and see that some (not most, TBF) of the "clients" live pretty desperately.
you know I wrote above how Americans live on a higher economic plane than our peers?
Well, runnerboy70, you live on a plane of ignorance far higher than most. You are probably nearing Fox News levels of ignorance.
Thiel is a conservative Republican who gives vast amounts to right wing election deniers.
Would be very cool if you apologized to the board for being so ignorant and retracting your post.
Support for political candidates Thiel is a member of the Republican Party.[100] He contributes to both Libertarian and Republican candidates and causes. Thiel speaking at the 2016 Republican National Convention In December 2007, Thiel endorsed Ron Paul for President.[101] After Paul failed to secure the Republican nomination, Thiel contributed to the John McCain campaign.[102] In 2010, Thiel supported Meg Whitman in her unsuccessful bid for the governorship of California. He contributed the maximum allowable $25,900 to the Whitman campaign.[103] In 2012, Thiel, along with Nosek and Scott Banister, put their support behind the Endorse Liberty Super PAC. Collectively they gave $3.9 million to Endorse Liberty, whose purpose was to promote Ron Paul. As of 31 January 2012, Endorse Liberty reported spending about $3.3 million promoting Paul by setting up two YouTube channels, buying ads from Google, Facebook and StumbleUpon, and building a presence on the Web.[104] After Paul again failed to secure the nomination, Thiel contributed to the Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan presidential ticket of 2012.[102] Thiel initially supported Carly Fiorina's campaign during the 2016 GOP presidential primary elections.[105] After Fiorina dropped out, Thiel supported Donald Trump and became one of the California delegates for Trump's nomination. He was a headline speaker during the convention, during which he announced that he was "proud to be gay," for which the assembled Republicans cheered.[106][107] On 15 October 2016, Thiel announced a $1.25 million donation in support of Donald Trump's presidential campaign.[108] Thiel stated to The New York Times: "I didn't give him any money for a long time because I didn't think it mattered, and then the campaign asked me to."[109] After Trump's victory, Thiel was named to the executive committee of the President-elect's transition team.[110] Thiel also has his own political-action committee, Free Forever, which is committed to supporting political candidates who support stricter border control, restrictive immigration policy, funds for veterans, and anti-interventionist foreign policy, among other things.[111][112] By February 2022, Thiel was one of the largest donors to Republican candidates in the 2022 election campaign with more than $20.4 million in contributions. He supported 16 senatorial and congressional candidates, several of whom were proponents of the falsehood that there was significant voter fraud in the 2020 election. Two of said senatorial candidates (Blake Masters and J. D. Vance) were also tech investors who had previously worked for Thiel.[113]
NEW YORK (AP) — Donald Trump said in a social media post that he expects to be arrested Tuesday as a New York prosecutor is eyeing charges in a case examining hush money paid to women who alleged sexual encounters with the former president. Trump provided no evidence that suggested he was directly informed of a pending arrest and did not say how he knew of such plans.
The windfall was subsequently divvied up over a period of about three months to at least three members of the Biden clan, and two Biden family associates.
