You can't be a decent conservative and vote for Joe Biden.
Which Trump policy was anti-conservative let alone more anti-conservative to the Biden equivalent??
Even 1/6 has been proven to be a complete lie and Trump didn't do anything that wasn't constitutionally legal.
It's interesting that people like you (I think) and Sally (definitely) roll out your comments here and there about how much you actually dislike Trump. But you belie this regularly by making him sound fairly innocuous - wildly, inaccurately, innocuous.
Any half-intelligent person knows that it's BS. One doesn't regularly and excessively downplay the badness of a very bad person if one doesn't have affection for them. You do. And pretty much everything that you post is consistent with an affection for a guy like Trump (SLIGHTLY less true of Sally, who might have a morsel of decency hiding inside).
More importantly, because it doesn't just concern the two of you, is the fact that you and the rest of the R party CONSTANTLY ignore the fact that all of you "real conservatives" don't HAVE to pick Trump as your standard bearer. You could pick literally thousands of other Rs - EVERY SINGLE ONE OF WHOM would be AT LEAST as "conservative" AND more decent than Trump. But you don't. The R party doesn't. Because you like him. Admit it.
Or at least stop making pathetic arguments that PRETEND that your leader HAS to be Trump.
We live in a 2 party system. If you roll out 2 horrible candidates we are forced to choose the lesser of 2 evils.
I didn't vote for Trump in the primary. I voted for him in the general because the alternative was Hillary Clinton. A worse choice.
There was no primary in 2020. I voted for Trump in the general because the alternative was Joe Biden. A worse choice.
I don't want want Trump to run in 2024.
I like Trump personally. He's a funny guy. He's only toxic to toxic people. I recognize, however, that with 99% of American media carrying water for the Democrats he can't win the popular vote so I don't want him to be the nominee.
I would vote for road kill before I would vote for Joe Biden. In addition to having more charisma the road kill would be better for the country.
Yep! Republicans have hardly moved on from Trump. It is a SLOW...VERY SLOW move away from him, and perhaps the looming indictments will finally turn the tide a bit quicker, but we'll see. As we sit her today, Trump is the leader of the Republican Party.
In case no one noticed, Bragg invited Trump to come speak to the Grand Jury. Ha! Pretty much means an indictment is coming...as it should be. That one and others.
aren't you the guy who said trump was over and done with and we'd never have to deal with him again? Changed your mind?
Oh, he's over and done with...he'll never win again, and he's on the cusp of being indicted. I'm just agreeing that TODAY he's still the frontrunner of the Republican Party. Also, saying that Trump is the leader of the Republican Party (he still is that) is really showing how stupid and inept the GOP and its members are...it's not a show of power on Trump's part.
You and Hunter Biden's laptop. If what's there is so damning, then why didn't Trump and Barr do something about it when they had the power to do so? You're insane.
Meh. Hunter has ridden on his Daddy's coattails. Big deal. Last I checked, no one voted for him for anything AND he wasn't appointed by his Daddy to serve in any capacity, unlike Trump and his good-for-nothing children/spouses of children.
So Hunter, who is a dead beat dad, drug addict, and all around POS is "meh" and Trump's kids who's only crime is being related a guy you disagree with are "good for nothing".
That's a nice example of the delusion you live in.
If Biden's involvement with his son's business deals is no big deal why would Joe lie about his involvement repeatedly?
You make too many assumptions there. I'll break it all down properly.
1) Hunter is a deadbeat dad ("deadbeat" is one word BTW). Yes, that's true.
2) Hunter was addicted to illegal drugs...and still might be for all I know. Yes, that's true.
3) Hunter is not a terrific human being. Yes, that's true.
4) Trump's kids are involved in LOTS of crime. The big idiot three (you know which 3 I'm talking about) are all in HUGE trouble regarding continuing investigations into The Trump Organization. Ivanka just pointed the finger at her two idiot brothers and her father, but she's not innocent either. They are part of the Trump Crime Family that already had its Foundation taken away for fraudulent practices, and now The Trump Organization isn't going to survive either due to their illegal behavior. All three of those idiot Trump children are in legal crosshairs right now.
5) The big idiot three Trump children were ALL involved in major ways either in Trump's campaign or his administration. We've had to hear their jibber jabber constantly. Also, you're so against Hunter, well Don Jr. is the Trump family version of Hunter (drug addict loser). Hunter has not been involved at all in Biden's administration or as a mouthpiece for Joe Biden.
6) You are fooling yourself if you think anything criminal or really even politically damaging to Joe Biden will ever come of Hunter's laptop. If stuff on it was so damning, Trump and Barr would have done something about it when they were in power. They didn't NOT do it due to the goodness or their hearts. It's a big nothing.
You really shouldn't give a crap about Hunter Biden...he has no power. Joe hasn't even given him a voice or as much as a greeter job at the White House. He's a nothing.
The fact is that you are a HUGE idiot. You continue to believe that the 2020 election was stolen even after ALL of the evidence to the contrary. Fool.
aren't you the guy who said trump was over and done with and we'd never have to deal with him again? Changed your mind?
Flagpole was certain Trump was going to be indicted 4 months ago. LOL.
No, not certain. I thought it was a possibility. It's coming though (multiple ones too, and I'll point out that you and others thought it was silly that it would ever happen). Bragg just invited him to take questions from the Grand Jury. That doesn't happen unless an indictment is about to happen.
Flagpole was certain Trump was going to be indicted 4 months ago. LOL.
They've all been certain for 8 years. They're like dumb dogs waiting for the mailman on Sunday.
INCORRECT! Other than the ONE thing Sally is mentioning (and again, I wasn't CERTAIN there...just thought it was possible), I have LONG not put a timeline on when Trump would be indicted. Sally has tried to get me to and has wanted me to say that if Trump isn't indicted by X timeframe that I would agree to abandon the idea that he will be. Um...NOPE! Doesn't work that way. Sometimes and with some people, the wheels of justice turn slowly...but they have been turning, and, unless he dies first, Trump WILL be held accountable.
Right now, it APPEARS his first indictment will happen sometime in 2023. I'm not guaranteeing anything, but it APPEARS that way. Bragg's move indicates that. Willis said indictments are imminent (though she didn't name Trump, but we know he's included). Jack Smith seems to be moving quickly.
You and Sally really should be on the side of truth and justice and not defending that criminal, serial lying POS.
So Hunter, who is a dead beat dad, drug addict, and all around POS is "meh" and Trump's kids who's only crime is being related a guy you disagree with are "good for nothing".
That's a nice example of the delusion you live in.
If Biden's involvement with his son's business deals is no big deal why would Joe lie about his involvement repeatedly?
You make too many assumptions there. I'll break it all down properly.
1) Hunter is a deadbeat dad ("deadbeat" is one word BTW). Yes, that's true.
2) Hunter was addicted to illegal drugs...and still might be for all I know. Yes, that's true.
3) Hunter is not a terrific human being. Yes, that's true.
4) Trump's kids are involved in LOTS of crime. The big idiot three (you know which 3 I'm talking about) are all in HUGE trouble regarding continuing investigations into The Trump Organization. Ivanka just pointed the finger at her two idiot brothers and her father, but she's not innocent either. They are part of the Trump Crime Family that already had its Foundation taken away for fraudulent practices, and now The Trump Organization isn't going to survive either due to their illegal behavior. All three of those idiot Trump children are in legal crosshairs right now.
5) The big idiot three Trump children were ALL involved in major ways either in Trump's campaign or his administration. We've had to hear their jibber jabber constantly. Also, you're so against Hunter, well Don Jr. is the Trump family version of Hunter (drug addict loser). Hunter has not been involved at all in Biden's administration or as a mouthpiece for Joe Biden.
6) You are fooling yourself if you think anything criminal or really even politically damaging to Joe Biden will ever come of Hunter's laptop. If stuff on it was so damning, Trump and Barr would have done something about it when they were in power. They didn't NOT do it due to the goodness or their hearts. It's a big nothing.
You really shouldn't give a crap about Hunter Biden...he has no power. Joe hasn't even given him a voice or as much as a greeter job at the White House. He's a nothing.
The fact is that you are a HUGE idiot. You continue to believe that the 2020 election was stolen even after ALL of the evidence to the contrary. Fool.
It's 2023 and you still think laptop is about Hunter... The bubble you live in is way too thick for any of your opinions to be taken seriously.
There's much more evidence that the Biden's are crime family than the Trump's are.
No intelligent person believes you can mail ballots to everyone on the voter rolls that everyone acknowledges are completely full of ineligible voters and then count any ballot that comes back with ZERO signature matching or validation of any kind even if the ballot was received after election day and claim the election was on the up and up. This happened in multiple swing states.
Democrats spent all of Trump's first term saying Trump worked with the Russians to steal the 2016 election. To this day the felon Hillary Clinton claims she won the election.
They've all been certain for 8 years. They're like dumb dogs waiting for the mailman on Sunday.
INCORRECT! Other than the ONE thing Sally is mentioning (and again, I wasn't CERTAIN there...just thought it was possible), I have LONG not put a timeline on when Trump would be indicted. Sally has tried to get me to and has wanted me to say that if Trump isn't indicted by X timeframe that I would agree to abandon the idea that he will be. Um...NOPE! Doesn't work that way. Sometimes and with some people, the wheels of justice turn slowly...but they have been turning, and, unless he dies first, Trump WILL be held accountable.
Right now, it APPEARS his first indictment will happen sometime in 2023. I'm not guaranteeing anything, but it APPEARS that way. Bragg's move indicates that. Willis said indictments are imminent (though she didn't name Trump, but we know he's included). Jack Smith seems to be moving quickly.
You and Sally really should be on the side of truth and justice and not defending that criminal, serial lying POS.
Bragg is an imbecile trying to make a name for himself. Even the unhinged leftist lunatic Maggie Haberman admits the case is absurd:
Maggie Haberman threw a lot of cold water on the news that former President Donald Trump will soon be criminally indicted in the Manhattan hush-money case.
There's much more evidence that the Biden's are crime family than the Trump's are.
. . .
To this day the felon Hillary Clinton claims she won the election.
1) Of what felony/felonies has Hillary Clinton been convicted? If your answer is "none," then she's not a felon.
2) Similarly, although Donald Trump committed actions for which his co-conspirator was adjudged a felon and went to prison, President Trump has never AFAIK been adjudged guilty of a felony. Perforce he is not a felon either. At least not yet.
3) Please provide a link to a recent statement from Hillary Clinton to the effect that she "won" the election. NOTE that a statement suggesting Donald Trump's victory was illegitimate (because Russians broke the law by interfering and assisting his candidacy) is NOT the same as Secretary Clinton's claiming that she won.
4) The plural of Biden is Bidens. The plural of Trump is Trumps. No apostrophes are required. In general, in English apostrophes are not used to form plurals.
A former Republican speaker of Ohio's House of Representatives was convicted by a federal jury Thursday on racketeering conspiracy charges in connection with a $60 million bribery scheme.
Carlton Huffman, the Republican strategist who has accused conservative leader Matt Schlapp of sexual assault is now being accused of sexual assault by two women, according to court documents filed in Raleigh, North Carolina.
There's much more evidence that the Biden's are crime family than the Trump's are.
. . .
To this day the felon Hillary Clinton claims she won the election.
1) Of what felony/felonies has Hillary Clinton been convicted? If your answer is "none," then she's not a felon.
2) Similarly, although Donald Trump committed actions for which his co-conspirator was adjudged a felon and went to prison, President Trump has never AFAIK been adjudged guilty of a felony. Perforce he is not a felon either. At least not yet.
3) Please provide a link to a recent statement from Hillary Clinton to the effect that she "won" the election. NOTE that a statement suggesting Donald Trump's victory was illegitimate (because Russians broke the law by interfering and assisting his candidacy) is NOT the same as Secretary Clinton's claiming that she won.
4) The plural of Biden is Bidens. The plural of Trump is Trumps. No apostrophes are required. In general, in English apostrophes are not used to form plurals.
Yea OJ didn't do it either...
The FBI director admitted that Clinton committed multiple felonies under oath but declined to refer her for prosecution. Comey's actions post election make it clear this was 100% a political decision not a legal decision.
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Kudos to the veep. He is showing some backbone - one of the only Republicans with the courage to tell the truth. Nice.
CNN — Former Vice President Mike Pence made his most blistering comments yet about former President Donald Trump’s role in the January 6th attack on the US Capitol during remarks Saturday evening at the annual Gridiron Club Dinner in Washington, DC. Pence began his remarks at the dinner, which traditionally features politicians making jokes about notable Washington figures, with lighthearted comments about Trump, President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and several Republicans expected to run for president in 2024, including Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former UN Ambassador Nikki Haley. He then took a serious tone, noting the attack on the Capitol was “one thing I haven’t joked about” and calling January 6th “a tragic day.” Pence rebuked Trump for his role in the January 6, 2021 attack, saying he was “wrong” for claiming Pence had the authority to overturn the results of the 2020 election in his role presiding over Congress that day, saying “history will hold Donald Trump accountable.” “President Trump was wrong. I had no right to overturn the election and his reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol that day, and I know that history will hold Donald Trump accountable,” Pence said. What to know about the Tucker Carlson January 6 footage Pence also scolded those who have downplayed the people who entered the Capitol on January 6th as tourists. “Tourists don’t injure 140 police officers by sightseeing,” Pence said. “Tourists don’t break down doors to get to the Speaker of the House or voice threats against public officials.” Pence chastised Republicans who minimized the insurrection, days after Fox News host Tucker Carlson aired new security footage from inside the Capitol on January 6th in an attempt to defend the mob. “Make no mistake about it, what happened that day was a disgrace, and it mocks decency to portray it in any other way,” Pence said at the dinner.
Kudos to the veep. He is showing some backbone - one of the only Republicans with the courage to tell the truth. Nice.
CNN — Former Vice President Mike Pence made his most blistering comments yet about former President Donald Trump’s role in the January 6th attack on the US Capitol during remarks Saturday evening at the annual Gridiron Club Dinner in Washington, DC. Pence began his remarks at the dinner, which traditionally features politicians making jokes about notable Washington figures, with lighthearted comments about Trump, President Joe Biden, Vice President Kamala Harris and several Republicans expected to run for president in 2024, including Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former UN Ambassador Nikki Haley. He then took a serious tone, noting the attack on the Capitol was “one thing I haven’t joked about” and calling January 6th “a tragic day.” Pence rebuked Trump for his role in the January 6, 2021 attack, saying he was “wrong” for claiming Pence had the authority to overturn the results of the 2020 election in his role presiding over Congress that day, saying “history will hold Donald Trump accountable.” “President Trump was wrong. I had no right to overturn the election and his reckless words endangered my family and everyone at the Capitol that day, and I know that history will hold Donald Trump accountable,” Pence said. What to know about the Tucker Carlson January 6 footage Pence also scolded those who have downplayed the people who entered the Capitol on January 6th as tourists. “Tourists don’t injure 140 police officers by sightseeing,” Pence said. “Tourists don’t break down doors to get to the Speaker of the House or voice threats against public officials.” Pence chastised Republicans who minimized the insurrection, days after Fox News host Tucker Carlson aired new security footage from inside the Capitol on January 6th in an attempt to defend the mob. “Make no mistake about it, what happened that day was a disgrace, and it mocks decency to portray it in any other way,” Pence said at the dinner.
It was a very politically opportune time. Fox has just been exposed regarding their lies about 1/6 and the election, big money donors are looking for a Trump substitute, m'aga cultists will never support Pence anyway, Trump's hold on the party is just starting to diminish, and he had to do something to jump start his anemic campaign for nomination.
Its about two years too late for me to give him too much credit. Its just that the very high level of cowardice in the Republican party, by comparison, make him look like he has backbone.
