Look Mr Anonymous, you are being very disrespectful to legitimate opinions and insights from (an RF King)! Do you have a problem that Kelvin died unprovoked by no robber or saboteur and rather by his own lapse?
You're making disrespectful posts about Kiptum and trying to make the thread about yourself, like usual, with bizarre claims and talking about yourself. I won't stand for it. You are banned from posting for 48 hours.
We've subscribed to a bunch of Kenyan papers today to read all the articles on Kiptum. It's worth noting that The Nation talks about his final training sessions. He ran 35k long run on Thursday and then did an 18.6k fartlek on Saturday which he crushed apparently. Coach pulled up midway in his car him to slow down but he told them he was almost done and it was fine.
The assistant coach, Nahashon Kibon, says in hindsight it's weird as Kiptum insist they all take a picture together after Thursday's run.
"He told me, 'coach, you have helped me a lot.... comes, let's take some photos' and added that 'photographs are a good treasure, and they remind you of the people."
Article also reveals he was training with Edward Cheserek and Sharon Lokedi (neither is in the photo). Article behind paywall here:
All young lives are valuable and it’s tragic when a person of this age dies regardless of their accomplishments as an athlete or otherwise, but in this running community, the loss of an athlete (and coach) primed to be one of the greatest, if not the greatest, road distance runner ever, is particularly hard to take. At least in Kenya there is proper mourning and recognition of the magnitude of the loss. At work today everybody is moping around because the Niners lost. Who really cares? Nobody is registering this massive blow to sport. Kiptum’s passing should receive the same attention as if Mahomes had died on his way home from the game.
What I would give to witness a wack job like this realize that quantum fields are literally everywhere always.
Like electromagnetic radiation, it's everywhere. The light you are seeing right now with your eye is the same stuff that radio wave is. Yeah this is starting to look really stupid now isn't it.
Also, we know about high energy human created emfs. Indeed, if you live near a cell tower you have a higher risk of developing cancer.
Amd because that's known, you're a fool if you think we have investigated psychiatric correlations. There isn't any.
Autism spectrum disorder is extremely complicated and it's incredibly disrespectful to the medical community and to those afflicted with it to lazily throw out this insanely simple causes for it.
What I would give to witness a wack job like this realize that quantum fields are literally everywhere always.
Like electromagnetic radiation, it's everywhere. The light you are seeing right now with your eye is the same stuff that radio wave is. Yeah this is starting to look really stupid now isn't it.
Also, we know about high energy human created emfs. Indeed, if you live near a cell tower you have a higher risk of developing cancer.
Amd because that's known, you're a fool if you think we have investigated psychiatric correlations. There isn't any.
Autism spectrum disorder is extremely complicated and it's incredibly disrespectful to the medical community and to those afflicted with it to lazily throw out this insanely simple causes for it.
Autism has been exploding for what, 40 years, and yet the medical community somehow does not know what causes it.
You think if somebody murdered Kiptum it doesn't matter if it was investigated or discovered?
Kind of a dumb argument since he wasn’t murdered. If there was some bizarre conspiracy, convictions of the culprits would provide comfort to you?
How do you know that? I think if Kiptum had his car tampered with or something, yes it would be murder, and yeah, I think it would give comfort to his family for those responsible to be convicted and punished, as well as preventing them from murdering anybody else.
Somebody mentioned LetsRun on a triathlon forum just now and another poster replied :
"I thought you meant Lantern Rouge at first and was so confused. I figured out it is Lets Run so I went to take a look and holy sh>t that forum is a dumpster fire."
Bob Verbeeck, CEO of his management agency Golazo was in shock:
" Ik had hem een paar dagen geleden nog aan de lijn en toen vertelde hij trots dat hij een 40 kilometerlange training op 3.000 meter had afgewerkt in 2 uur en 9 minuten. Hij vertelde ook dat alles goed ging met hem." Kiptum was op het moment van het fatale ongeluk naar de Afrika Cup-finale gaan kijken.
"Hij leeft heel sober en heeft geen tv thuis. Daarom maakte hij de verplaatsing om naar het voetbal te kijken. Kiptum komt uit een arm gezin en leeft zelf ook zeer bescheiden. Tot een paar jaar geleden at hij gewoon nog wat er in de tuin groeide of rondliep. Voor andere dingen had hij de middelen niet."
I remember hearing the news when Ivo Van Dame died in a car accident. I was so pulling for Kip Keino in the 72 Olympics. I was just a young kid, but that was the year I started following track. This guy was big and strong had the talent to challenge a John Walker in 76. It just does not seem that unusual that people die in car accidents abroad. Another famous name that comes to mind is NBA player Dražen Petrović. When I was in the Army I was stationed in Panama for two years, and to see how they crowded busses, you wonder how it didn't tip over. Traffic standards outside of the US in some countries in terms of speed, seatbelts regs, even the condition of roads is so different from what is mandated in the US. Not saying it doesn't happen in the US RIP Steve Prefontaine, but also troubling to hear that it was a one car accident. Just sad all the way round :(
Kelvin would have definitely been the GOAT of the marathon, and his 3 marathon average might stand for a very long time barring a new technological breakthrough.
This is obviously a tragic loss to everyone that knew him, and the wider running community, mostly for the selfish expectation (dare i say it) of greater things from him. Many 24 yo's die every day without acccomplishing what they set out to do.
However, it is totally unsurprising in Africa. As someone with family in Africa, I visit at least once a year. Last year we lost a 24 yo (yes) son of a niece simply because he pulled off into breakdown lane after water temp light came on, and as is the practise with overtaking (or is that undertaking) in that lane, a van hit him whilst he was on the phone to his dad.
In SA the laws are similar to Australia (except for demerit points which will be implemented soon). The problem is that it is totally ignored, fines are unpaid and people still have licence, cops take R200 ($15AUD) falling out of your wallet and wave you on. Speed limit on freeway 120kph, you get sucked into the vortex of everyone wizzing past at 160-200kph , yes even I on my motorbike, and must say it felt exhillarating as I don't get that chance on my bike here.
So all that leads to a fatality rate of 4 per 100K pop in Australia (world's best, I think Iceland at 2), in Kenya it is 28, South Africa 27, and South Africa's inter city roads and mountain passes are better than Australia, save for us having mostly divided freeways, but that's not where the gains are . Its just normal
The car Kiptum was allegedly driving was clearly going at high speed, and even if not an alcoholic, one or two drinks at a function puts you over, add fatigue and there's your mix. Not saying all three factors were there but at least we know high speed was there.
And while we were posting in the last day, probably what? another ten 20 something guys died on the road there.
There should be a proper investigation; what about the condition of the car, or the airbags, why did they not work? It's a new car. The stretch is uphill, no bumps to be seen. Kevin had never and did not drink alcohol. What are the autopsy results? Questions, World Athletics at least should ask officially the Kenyan government.
So this accident occurs on Sunday night, after a 300km week no doubt, when Kelvin by all rights should be shelled and in bed. I recall him saying to prepare for Rotterdam he was going to live a monastic run eat sleep life?
Something just doesn’t add up here.
How do you know he wasn't taking the following day off? You're reading to deep into the "Internets". Just saying....
We've subscribed to a bunch of Kenyan papers today to read all the articles on Kiptum. It's worth noting that The Nation talks about his final training sessions. He ran 35k long run on Thursday and then did an 18.6k fartlek on Saturday which he crushed apparently. Coach pulled up midway in his car him to slow down but he told them he was almost done and it was fine.
The assistant coach, Nahashon Kibon, says in hindsight it's weird as Kiptum insist they all take a picture together after Thursday's run.
"He told me, 'coach, you have helped me a lot.... comes, let's take some photos' and added that 'photographs are a good treasure, and they remind you of the people."
Article also reveals he was training with Edward Cheserek and Sharon Lokedi (neither is in the photo). Article behind paywall here:
All young lives are valuable and it’s tragic when a person of this age dies regardless of their accomplishments as an athlete or otherwise, but in this running community, the loss of an athlete (and coach) primed to be one of the greatest, if not the greatest, road distance runner ever, is particularly hard to take. At least in Kenya there is proper mourning and recognition of the magnitude of the loss. At work today everybody is moping around because the Niners lost. Who really cares? Nobody is registering this massive blow to sport. Kiptum’s passing should receive the same attention as if Mahomes had died on his way home from the game.
Actually I'm surprised how many people I know IRL who told me they heard the news about Kiptum, including non-runners and runners who don't follow pro running.
All young lives are valuable and it’s tragic when a person of this age dies regardless of their accomplishments as an athlete or otherwise, but in this running community, the loss of an athlete (and coach) primed to be one of the greatest, if not the greatest, road distance runner ever, is particularly hard to take. At least in Kenya there is proper mourning and recognition of the magnitude of the loss. At work today everybody is moping around because the Niners lost. Who really cares? Nobody is registering this massive blow to sport. Kiptum’s passing should receive the same attention as if Mahomes had died on his way home from the game.
Actually I'm surprised how many people I know IRL who told me they heard the news about Kiptum, including non-runners and runners who don't follow pro running.
There was a really popular post on TikTok about it.
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