This seems very personal to Flagpole.
This seems very personal to Flagpole.
In reality few people are beating anyone up. The small number of instances of violence are used to pander to one side or the other.
However the real damage is more subtle and is clearly perpetuated by your leader. It's not coincidence that the rise of white nationalism has been emboldened over the last year a a half and political language has become ugly, degrading and in some cases violent. This is a product on one person who has no dignity.
I never saw this during Obama's presidency
Any POTUS can do the X/Os of legislation, but a real leader provides vision and sets the tone. Clearly the tone is horrible right now. That is undisputed
lowest character POTUS of all time!
Within a 12 window Apple, Spotify, Facebook, and Google(YouTube) all shut down Alex Jones' Info Wars accounts, claiming that they want to shut down hate speech. Meanwhile a world class racist hater Sarah Jeong is put on the NYT editorial board with no push back from any of these companies.
We are quickly reaching full left-wing fascism, where Left-wing hatred, censorship, and violence are all justified in the name of stopping right-wing fascism. The Left is fighting a monster that doesn't exist and in the process they have become the monster they think they are fighting.
Roarshack wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
1) Mueller has everything.
2) Trump will be lucky if Melania wants to go anywhere with him. She hardly does now, doesn't sleep in the same room with him, and she now has contradicted him several times. Maybe you mean his other girlfriends. Don Jr. is dating Fox "News" host Kimberly Guilfoyle...not a supermodel though I will admit she looks ok. Nothing going on upstairs for her though spewing what she spews and then dating Don Jr. Hope she likes dating a felon.
3) I've moved on from OSU football. Started several years ago when I was spending my Saturdays watching my kids run in cross country meets, and I haven't missed it.
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
This seems very personal to Flagpole.
VERY close...change to "This seems very logical to Flagpole" and then you've got something.
XY wrote:
In reality few people are beating anyone up. The small number of instances of violence are used to pander to one side or the other.
However the real damage is more subtle and is clearly perpetuated by your leader. It's not coincidence that the rise of white nationalism has been emboldened over the last year a a half and political language has become ugly, degrading and in some cases violent. This is a product on one person who has no dignity.
I never saw this during Obama's presidency
Any POTUS can do the X/Os of legislation, but a real leader provides vision and sets the tone. Clearly the tone is horrible right now. That is undisputed
lowest character POTUS of all time!
You should have seen how the country looked as a Tea Partier during Obama. The political language coming from the top was FAR uglier and degrading than anything Trump has said, and Obama weaponized the government against us, something Trump has NOT done. Obama's admin was the most vile corrupt administration this country has ever seen. You Dems have no moral ground to stand on when judging others. Clean up your own house.
DiscoGary wrote:
Within a 12 window Apple, Spotify, Facebook, and Google(YouTube) all shut down Alex Jones' Info Wars accounts, claiming that they want to shut down hate speech. Meanwhile a world class racist hater Sarah Jeong is put on the NYT editorial board with no push back from any of these companies.
We are quickly reaching full left-wing fascism, where Left-wing hatred, censorship, and violence are all justified in the name of stopping right-wing fascism. The Left is fighting a monster that doesn't exist and in the process they have become the monster they think they are fighting.
The monster does exist
You should know that humans, and I would say close to half of all humans, are followers and easily lead by persuasive and charismatic people. So we've learned over the last few years that since people are so easily lead, that we have some responsibility to curb those that lead by peddling dangerous and false claims. Alex Jones peddles in lies and false conspiracies. I agree however that there is a tipping point and were getting close. This is uncharted water in my time.
Alex Jones is a dirt bag.
You just threw out five subjective claims. "corrupt, vile, ugly, degrading, weaponized, etc" . Sign of defeat
Obama’s admin was the most transparent in history of the US.
Trump is just Obama 2.0.
You guys in the fringes if your parties just can’t see it.
DiscoGary wrote:
Within a 12 window Apple, Spotify, Facebook, and Google(YouTube) all shut down Alex Jones' Info Wars accounts, claiming that they want to shut down hate speech. Meanwhile a world class racist hater Sarah Jeong is put on the NYT editorial board with no push back from any of these companies.
We are quickly reaching full left-wing fascism, where Left-wing hatred, censorship, and violence are all justified in the name of stopping right-wing fascism. The Left is fighting a monster that doesn't exist and in the process they have become the monster they think they are fighting.
What has happened in your life that makes you such a victim? There are lots of things that the Right has done that I don't like, but I've never thought of myself as a victim. The two worst presidents in US history came in my lifetime and are both Republicans (Nixon and Trump), and then the biggest spender as a percentage of GDP (Reagan) was a Republican too, and yet I never felt like I was a victim. Why are you allowing government to affect your life so much? I thought Conservatives were supposed to be self-sufficient, and many of you certainly like to boast about or at least pretend how tough you are (calling liberals 'snowflakes' for example). Put some big-boy pants on, brother!
Republicans currently hold the House and the Senate and the Presidency and a power balance in the Supreme court and yet you cry about liberals? Dude, if it's not like you want it now with Republicans in power everywhere (including those investigating Trump), then when will it ever be?
There WILL be a push back, and the push back is going to be against Trump and supporting Republicans. YOU helped create that by voting for a man who was so divisive and provocative. You helped push the pendulum so far to the right that it's going to come swinging back the other way with a lot of force. Then, you will REALLY be unhappy.
You should have taken the time to smell the roses, brother while it was what you wanted, because replacement tulips have been planted.
Based on facts not emotion...
Mueller is coming.
The clown is done.
XY wrote:
DiscoGary wrote:
You should have seen how the country looked as a Tea Partier during Obama. The political language coming from the top was FAR uglier and degrading than anything Trump has said, and Obama weaponized the government against us, something Trump has NOT done. Obama's admin was the most vile corrupt administration this country has ever seen. You Dems have no moral ground to stand on when judging others. Clean up your own house.
You just threw out five subjective claims. "corrupt, vile, ugly, degrading, weaponized, etc" . Sign of defeat
Yep. Unfounded and not agreed with by impartial or objective viewers. Concrete examples or this has no teeth.
Flagpole wrote:
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What has happened in your life that makes you such a victim?
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1. Obama weaponized the IRS against a political movement that I had joined. No justice has come to those who committed that crime.
2. All my life I have been told that I am to blame for the failures of minorities. None of it is true.
3. Hillary Clinton hired thugs to disrupt Trump rallies and the result was that my first amendment rights were violated.
How many more would you like?
Flagpole wrote:
XY wrote:
You just threw out five subjective claims. "corrupt, vile, ugly, degrading, weaponized, etc" . Sign of defeat
Yep. Unfounded and not agreed with by impartial or objective viewers. Concrete examples or this has no teeth.
Your inability to see the real world as it is, is the reason you could not understand how Trump could win. You are cursed to forever walk in a cloud of Liberal ignorance, occasionally banging your head into reality (Trump wins!) and wondering what the hell happened. Ignorance and hatred are a deadly combination. You ought to work on overcoming at least one of those.
Gary you are so done. Get your passport ready so you can seek asylum in Russia or Hungary or Poland. Once Mueller is done and order is restored you will be reported to the authorities as well as organizations such as Antifa and Anonymous. There will be hell to pay for the lies, slander, and libel you have spewed and you damn well know that the IRS is coming after you as well. It’s going to be ugly for those radicals like you, but necessary.
DiscoGary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
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What has happened in your life that makes you such a victim?
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1. Obama weaponized the IRS against a political movement that I had joined. No justice has come to those who committed that crime.
2. All my life I have been told that I am to blame for the failures of minorities. None of it is true.
3. Hillary Clinton hired thugs to disrupt Trump rallies and the result was that my first amendment rights were violated.
How many more would you like?
I'm still waiting for one that is true.
Wow, Gary, so delusional that you're pretty much pointing at yourself in the mirror and spouting nonsense to yourself.
Hey, does everyone remember dozens of pages back where Gary claimed to be personally harmed by Obama? I remember. Gary, you need help my friend.
DiscoGary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
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What has happened in your life that makes you such a victim?
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1. Obama weaponized the IRS against a political movement that I had joined. No justice has come to those who committed that crime.
2. All my life I have been told that I am to blame for the failures of minorities. None of it is true.
3. Hillary Clinton hired thugs to disrupt Trump rallies and the result was that my first amendment rights were violated.
How many more would you like?
Oh My!!! Indeed, you ARE a victim!
You poor, poor boy!
DiscoGary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
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What has happened in your life that makes you such a victim?
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1. Obama weaponized the IRS against a political movement that I had joined. No justice has come to those who committed that crime.
2. All my life I have been told that I am to blame for the failures of minorities. None of it is true.
3. Hillary Clinton hired thugs to disrupt Trump rallies and the result was that my first amendment rights were violated.
How many more would you like?
1) Debunked. Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) issued a report that said that was not true.
2) I'm a white guy. I have never been told I was to blame for the "failures of minorities". Sounds like a warped perception on your part.
3) Debunked. Project Veritas' James O'Keefe, who manufactured much of what you spew, has been sued by many people including the federal government for "trespass; fraudulent misrepresentation; and civil conspiracy".
So, if you want to effectively support you views, then you need to submit more. I suggest you don't as you are clearly affected by right-wing conspiracies that have no basis in truth.
http://stories.barkpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/dog-pancake.jpgDiscoGary wrote:
Your inability to see the real world as it is, is the reason you could not understand how Trump could win. You are cursed to forever walk in a cloud of Liberal ignorance, occasionally banging your head into reality (Trump wins!) and wondering what the hell happened. Ignorance and hatred are a deadly combination. You ought to work on overcoming at least one of those.
But the Democrat option was just as vile, that is why you are in this mess and you yanks have yourselves to blame.