Some of the dozen or so deadenders on this cite and specifically on this thread must have family ties to greater Ukraine. Your emotional phrasing proves the deadenders supporting throwing away U.S. tax dollars for Ukraine are not logical humans. Defeating Russia? This will end with a negotiated surrender or negotiated concessions by Ukraine. Defeating Ukraine means Ukraine overthrowing Russia. List your income & net worth. The deadenders who advocate for this conflict, no doubt most of you are broke. What sane tax payer would believe it is smart throwing away, by the time this ends, well over 100 billion dollars for Ukraine when Ukraine will surrender one day.