I agree wholeheartedly with this. And the MSM is regularly annoying me with the (say it with great gravity!) "UNPRECEDENTED NATURE" of what will happen this election cycle !!
Yeah, it is unprecedented. But when you dramatize that, you will prompt many brains to think that PERHAPS we ought to....I don't know, do SOMETHING different? Not JUST treat him like any other citizen ??
As horrible as the overall situation is, I'd like it if the trials/election issue was covered in a more ho-hum manner. As in, "Yep, get indicted multiple times, and your campaign might be really, really be impacted. OH. WELL. Don't get indicted. Or don't run if you do. PERIOD."
the media has been out to lunch for 10 years. And the right wing and Trump especially know that he can control the media. He can say whatever lie he likes and they will report it and "both sides it". Trump (like Putin) does not care if his lies get debunked because nobody will remember that. They will remember the lie. It simply adds legitimacy.
If Trump says Joe Biden is prosecuting him. The media will report that. If Trump says it is election interference, the media will report that. If Trump says he can mentally declassify documents, the media will report that.
The good thing is that Courts are not the media. And that is why Trump and Co are having CAT 5 meltdowns about speedy trials.
And Trump's Crazy congress people also have criminal exposure. So they are talking "defund Jack Smith". And the Georgia GOP nutballs are talking about removing Fanni Willis. And the media will report this as normal and both sides it instead of calling out the absurdity because with Trump, the absurdity is no longer absurd.
I think that "out to lunch" is unfair. As much as I might quibble with aspects of the media's coverage of Trump, I think that the following is true:
1) It's a hard problem. Voluminous, shameless lying. I have no doubt that lots of smart, thoughtful, hard-working journalists have put a LOT of thought into how "best" to cover him. But all difficult situations do not necessarily have a satisfactory solution.
2) While they report what Trump does and says, they also very regularly interject reality. No thoughtful viewer is left without the message that, for example, Trump is lying about the 2020 election being stolen.
the media has been out to lunch for 10 years. And the right wing and Trump especially know that he can control the media. He can say whatever lie he likes and they will report it and "both sides it". Trump (like Putin) does not care if his lies get debunked because nobody will remember that. They will remember the lie. It simply adds legitimacy.
If Trump says Joe Biden is prosecuting him. The media will report that. If Trump says it is election interference, the media will report that. If Trump says he can mentally declassify documents, the media will report that.
The good thing is that Courts are not the media. And that is why Trump and Co are having CAT 5 meltdowns about speedy trials.
And Trump's Crazy congress people also have criminal exposure. So they are talking "defund Jack Smith". And the Georgia GOP nutballs are talking about removing Fanni Willis. And the media will report this as normal and both sides it instead of calling out the absurdity because with Trump, the absurdity is no longer absurd.
I think that "out to lunch" is unfair. As much as I might quibble with aspects of the media's coverage of Trump, I think that the following is true:
1) It's a hard problem. Voluminous, shameless lying. I have no doubt that lots of smart, thoughtful, hard-working journalists have put a LOT of thought into how "best" to cover him. But all difficult situations do not necessarily have a satisfactory solution.
2) While they report what Trump does and says, they also very regularly interject reality. No thoughtful viewer is left without the message that, for example, Trump is lying about the 2020 election being stolen.
Perhaps a bit unfair. But I think journalists are hard-wired to both sides everything political. On our local news they ran a story and instead of saying "Trump's lie that he won the 2020 election" it was "Trump's claim that he won the 2020 election".
It might seem nitpicking but those two phrases are quite different. And to the viewer that want's to believe everything Trump says, it is viewed as validation of Trump's lie in their mind.
I believe it is obligatory for the media to call a lie a lie. When you have a crazy authoritarian seeing to overthrow democracy with firehoses of lies you need to call lies out as lies. Using the political reporting playbook from 30 years ago does not work.
Trump and the right wing have skillfully gotten the media to fear being called liberal so they never want to be viewed as favoring one side. So they both sides the most insane news events. It is comical.
"Give me attention. Please respond to me. I need. I need. I will post 50 more times in the next few hours if you will please respond to me. Please. Please! I need your attention".
Oh look the leftist ignores clear evidence of Biden's criminality and opts for the personal attack.
Color me shocked.
Oh look, the nutcase in the room claims "clear evidence" which somehow has not found its way into a court of law.
Why would that be, one might ask.
Perhaps there is not a single R who has any incentive to bring this "clear evidence" into a court of law?
Perhaps every single judge in the nation is part of a grand conspiracy to see no evil wrt Biden?
Who do you think the Republicans will nominate to run against Biden (yes I am pretty sure it will be Biden).
The Republicans will NOT nominate Trump. Right now its easy to say they support Trump for nomination just to poke their finger in the eye of the libs. But the closer they get to making the nomination, the more many will realize Trump is the losing hand.
The Convention could be more in disarray then the selection process was for Kevin McCarthy. DeSantis will back into the nomination but not easily. If he selects Haley as VP his hand gets stronger. Few will be happy with DeSantis but they won't show it after he is selected.
Who do you think the Republicans will nominate to run against Biden (yes I am pretty sure it will be Biden).
The Republicans will NOT nominate Trump. Right now its easy to say they support Trump for nomination just to poke their finger in the eye of the libs. But the closer they get to making the nomination, the more many will realize Trump is the losing hand.
The Convention could be more in disarray than the selection process was for Kevin McCarthy. DeSantis will back into the nomination but not easily. If he selects Haley as VP his hand gets stronger. Few will be happy with DeSantis but they won't show it after he is selected.
You know what would be cool? If one of two major parties and roughly 40% of the country didn’t put eye poking over supporting an authoritarian.
Or, reject Trump because he’s Trump, whether he could win, or not.
I think that "out to lunch" is unfair. As much as I might quibble with aspects of the media's coverage of Trump, I think that the following is true:
1) It's a hard problem. Voluminous, shameless lying. I have no doubt that lots of smart, thoughtful, hard-working journalists have put a LOT of thought into how "best" to cover him. But all difficult situations do not necessarily have a satisfactory solution.
2) While they report what Trump does and says, they also very regularly interject reality. No thoughtful viewer is left without the message that, for example, Trump is lying about the 2020 election being stolen.
Perhaps a bit unfair. But I think journalists are hard-wired to both sides everything political. On our local news they ran a story and instead of saying "Trump's lie that he won the 2020 election" it was "Trump's claim that he won the 2020 election".
It might seem nitpicking but those two phrases are quite different. And to the viewer that want's to believe everything Trump says, it is viewed as validation of Trump's lie in their mind.
I believe it is obligatory for the media to call a lie a lie. When you have a crazy authoritarian seeing to overthrow democracy with firehoses of lies you need to call lies out as lies. Using the political reporting playbook from 30 years ago does not work.
Trump and the right wing have skillfully gotten the media to fear being called liberal so they never want to be viewed as favoring one side. So they both sides the most insane news events. It is comical.
I mostly agree. And I suspect that a few years ago, the “both sides” stuff was worse. I think that perhaps it’s gotten a bit better. But not certain.
Still, approaching a decade of intense exposure to Trump, I have a very hard time not placing the vast majority of the blame on THE PEOPLE.
Perhaps a bit unfair. But I think journalists are hard-wired to both sides everything political. On our local news they ran a story and instead of saying "Trump's lie that he won the 2020 election" it was "Trump's claim that he won the 2020 election".
It might seem nitpicking but those two phrases are quite different. And to the viewer that want's to believe everything Trump says, it is viewed as validation of Trump's lie in their mind.
I believe it is obligatory for the media to call a lie a lie. When you have a crazy authoritarian seeing to overthrow democracy with firehoses of lies you need to call lies out as lies. Using the political reporting playbook from 30 years ago does not work.
Trump and the right wing have skillfully gotten the media to fear being called liberal so they never want to be viewed as favoring one side. So they both sides the most insane news events. It is comical.
I mostly agree. And I suspect that a few years ago, the “both sides” stuff was worse. I think that perhaps it’s gotten a bit better. But not certain.
Still, approaching a decade of intense exposure to Trump, I have a very hard time not placing the vast majority of the blame on THE PEOPLE.
There is zero blame on Thr People. we voted. one side could not handle defeat and started labeling their choice and his supporters as Russian Assets, and we defended. and we were correct. this is 109% on the new wave communists trying to coup this country. But we got it. it’s our country.
There is zero blame on Thr People. we voted. one side could not handle defeat and started labeling their choice and his supporters as Russian Assets, and we defended. and we were correct. this is 109% on the new wave communists trying to coup this country. But we got it. it’s our country.
Are you capable of writing coherently or have you always been like you are now?
I mostly agree. And I suspect that a few years ago, the “both sides” stuff was worse. I think that perhaps it’s gotten a bit better. But not certain.
Still, approaching a decade of intense exposure to Trump, I have a very hard time not placing the vast majority of the blame on THE PEOPLE.
There is zero blame on Thr People. we voted. one side could not handle defeat and started labeling their choice and his supporters as Russian Assets, and we defended. and we were correct. this is 109% on the new wave communists trying to coup this country. But we got it. it’s our country.
The side that planted evidence about the President being a Russian Agent, complete bsh*t and resulting in arresting the leader. started with Gore really but now cat is out of the bad and the War was triggered
The side that planted evidence about the President being a Russian Agent, complete bsh*t and resulting in arresting the leader. started with Gore really but now cat is out of the bad and the War was triggered
There is still room for you to come back and live in a world of reality. Nobody will miss you if you don't of course. And the choice is yours. But I just wanted to present the option to you as being available. Many have escaped destructive cults and lived happy and healthy normal lives.
The side that planted evidence about the President being a Russian Agent, complete bsh*t and resulting in arresting the leader. started with Gore really but now cat is out of the bad and the War was triggered
There is still room for you to come back and live in a world of reality. Nobody will miss you if you don't of course. And the choice is yours. But I just wanted to present the option to you as being available. Many have escaped destructive cults and lived happy and healthy normal lives.
Yep the only issue is you cannot point out a single thing I am incorrect on. you communists wanted War cause you can’t handle others with a different opinion, but that’s America. soon you will be attacking, once again, with needles and masks. it’s your sickness, but we will deal with it and prevail.
There is still room for you to come back and live in a world of reality. Nobody will miss you if you don't of course. And the choice is yours. But I just wanted to present the option to you as being available. Many have escaped destructive cults and lived happy and healthy normal lives.
Yep the only issue is you cannot point out a single thing I am incorrect on. you communists wanted War cause you can’t handle others with a different opinion, but that’s America. soon you will be attacking, once again, with needles and masks. it’s your sickness, but we will deal with it and prevail.
Let me ask you a sincere question:
These communists you speak of that will be attacking you with needles and masks shortly. Are they in the room with you right now?
now cat is out of the bad and the War was triggered
I'm going to start using "the cat is out of the bad" and there's only one person triggered here.
What he means by that is that his family recently convinced him to give up his cat, because they didn't want the cat to suffer any longer. Quite commendable. Not sure why he agreed, but very happy that he did. Hence, "The cat is out of the bad."
This results in the phrase, "Too crazy for pets." Which is somewhat similar to, and preferable to, the much-overused "batsh** crazy."
The above applies to all of the Trumpers on this site except adolt. He's in a totally different category of Supreme POS As*h***s.
See that Sally, ghost, spank yankee, newname? You're better than SOMEONE !
Last but not least, there's the ONE interloper named Hardloper. Gets and deserves somewhat more respect than those above. However, he recently ominously hinted at sliding towards them when he referred to much-justified fear of authoritarianism in the U.S. as "pearl clutching." Very adolt-like and disappointing. We're hoping for a turnaround.
Who do you think the Republicans will nominate to run against Biden (yes I am pretty sure it will be Biden).
The Republicans will NOT nominate Trump. Right now its easy to say they support Trump for nomination just to poke their finger in the eye of the libs. But the closer they get to making the nomination, the more many will realize Trump is the losing hand.
The Convention could be more in disarray then the selection process was for Kevin McCarthy. DeSantis will back into the nomination but not easily. If he selects Haley as VP his hand gets stronger. Few will be happy with DeSantis but they won't show it after he is selected.
The problem for the Republicans is that there is a substantial portion of the base that will vote for Trump or not turn out to vote at all. They don't care if it's a "losing hand" so much as they just want to burn down the federal government.
The problem for the Republicans is that there is a substantial portion of the base that will vote for Trump or not turn out to vote at all. They don't care if it's a "losing hand" so much as they just want to burn down the federal government.
Well, burn "down the federal government" is a bit overstated for the vast majority, but it'll do.
They get extra odd when clowns like S Palin start speaking of "civil war" (logistics and a host of other problems aside), and the cheers arise from people who welcome the joy, sunshine, and new dawn of civil war but (reasonably enough) were concerned about the amount of trauma that would be inflicted on their children from the dystopian horror of having to wear masks and take classes on a computer.