"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

Bullet_Proof wrote:

^ to any normal, reasonable person, they examine these numbers and determine: "ya know, even if I get covid, there's a really strong chance I will be fine. I will continue to live my life normally. Even if my relative gets it, there's a really strong chance they will brush it off too. I choose to remain calm and not become hysterical."

I love that you still can’t admit vaccines works. You just have insert “allegedly” to signal to your tribe that, don’t worry, you’re still swallowing the antivaxx propaganda.

Also, is it “hysterical” to get a safe and effective vaccine that dramatically improves outcomes, lowers load on healthcare systems, and prevents transmission in the community. Especially when you’re vaccinating against a virus that has caused 700k excess deaths in under 2 years?

The only person who so hysterical is you — trying desperately to discredit the vaccine and the risks of COVID.

Day 57: Antivaxxers continuing to go home devastated.

NEJM published a "letter" today showing superior long term immunologic durability (admittedly surrogate biomarker rather than clinical outcomes because the government refuses to fund good science) of AZ's blood clot shot to Pfizer and Moderna's crappy myocarditis shot. Pick your poison. Personally, being relatively healthy vs the world's obese, i think i would have fared better both from a short and long term perspective to be infected w the virus vs the crappy shot. But hey, big brother knows best yeah? Scary times. People who study the data know the government isn't funding hard outcome studies for a reason. And the idiot public school-educated dimwits can't see the forest through the trees. It's really quite a sociological experiment for the few who can see the truth.

Over 0.2% of the population in the U.S. has already died of COVID and more than 0.3% in an increasing number of countries. That's high. Historically, the last time the U.S. had such a pandemic was just over 100 years ago.

And the chance for long COVID for people with a COVID infection, whether serious (but not fatal) or light is 25-30%. That's no joke. The costs and lost man-hours of work are immense.

troll_69 wrote:

Day 57: Antivaxxers continuing to go home devastated.

We go home healthy laughing at your big accomplishment in life, a thread where everyone disagrees with you other than your alternate accounts.

“There is waning immunity after six months if you happen to have the Pfizer vaccine, especially with the delta variant. Number two is, there could also be false-positive test results, which is also happening pretty frequently. Number three is, of course, you are going to get breakthrough infections depending on the wider population when someone gets exposed too,” explained Dr. Rutul Dalal, Chair, UPMC Infection Prevention & Patrol.

https://www.pahomepage.com/vaccinate-nepa/concerns-rising-in-pa-as-covid-19-breakthrough-cases-among-the-fully-vaccinated-are-on-the-rise/

Check out the NEJM "letter" today. Admittedly it's <100 pts per group and the AZ group is younger on average vs Pfizer/Moderna. But, according to the study run out of Harvard deaconess, the blood clot shot delivers superior durability at 8 months vs the crappy mRNA shot. And that causes me to wonder exactly how the blood clot shot (with fatality for YOUNG people) compares with natural infection both w/regard to efficacy and safety. So, people, tell me ... why aren't the CDC and NIH funding good science- aka hard outcomes studies- to compare these shots head-to-head w regard to hospitalizations/ICU admittance/death? Well, i think we know. And the dullards and dimwits drinking the government kool aid fill me with absolute disgust and loathing. Because they're undiscerning consumers of propaganda and embody the ruin of America. They fill me with loathing.

Is there a C19 vax that uses actual C19 viral material, dead or inactive? You know, like the annual flu vax's?

And, if so, how is it doing in its effectiveness?

The (few) of us who endeavor to communicate the truth around the science and hold the NIH/CDC/FDA accountable are silenced at every turn. Just another signal regarding where this country is headed. Well, I did my part.

Talk about grasping for straws to fear monger.

The vaccination has not been researched long enough. It was rushed through the process. If you trust it, you are a sucker.

RockyG wrote:

The vaccination has not been researched long enough. It was rushed through the process. If you trust it, you are a sucker.

Wrong.

Wuss alert wrote:

The (few) of us who endeavor to communicate the truth around the science and hold the NIH/CDC/FDA accountable are silenced at every turn. Just another signal regarding where this country is headed. Well, I did my part.

Where is the suppression? From what I see, tons of BS misinformation about the vaccines is allowed to circulate

vaccinatedspermguzzler wrote:

troll_69 wrote:

Day 57: Antivaxxers continuing to go home devastated.

We go home healthy laughing at your big accomplishment in life, a thread where everyone disagrees with you other than your alternate accounts.

When reason, facts and evidence betray you, resort to attacking the person instead. Classic antivaxxer strategy

Wrong those of us who study the data and offer an alternative perspective are silenced and our accounts are shut down. I know people like yourself justify the censorship as "anti-vaxxer" and worthy of censorship but your myopic sins will be exposed before long. Science moves forward. I really wish the NIH/CDC would use my tax dollars wisely by conducting a head-to-head study vs unvaccinated control in young ppl. But they aren't endeavoring to conduct solid science. No, they're endeavoring to sell the masses on crappy science. And my feeling is that you've bought it, like a good government patsy. Congratulations dimwit!

troll_69 wrote:

vaccinatedspermguzzler wrote:

We go home healthy laughing at your big accomplishment in life, a thread where everyone disagrees with you other than your alternate accounts.

When reason, facts and evidence betray you, resort to attacking the person instead. Classic antivaxxer strategy

I have to hand it to you, you finally replied using the same name. Wouldn't it be liberating to come clean and just use one from now on?

The question I really have now is, why is anyone even bothering to argue with hysterical liars. This whole thread is a compilation of posts made by anywhere from 1-3 hysterical liars and then everyone being annoyed and stating the obvious. In the end, this would all just go away if you all just started ignoring the hysterical liars and let them drown in their own screaming nonsense. We have a vax for covid, if you are worried about covid then you should get it. This should be the absolute end of the story, yet here we are still arguing. Let's just all stop and go back to normal business. It is time to just brazenly ignore the crazy people. Please, it is time.

vaccinatedspermguzzler wrote:

troll_69 wrote:

When reason, facts and evidence betray you, resort to attacking the person instead. Classic antivaxxer strategy

I have to hand it to you, you finally replied using the same name. Wouldn't it be liberating to come clean and just use one from now on?

+1

He won't though.

Dew wrote:

vaccinatedspermguzzler wrote:

I have to hand it to you, you finally replied using the same name. Wouldn't it be liberating to come clean and just use one from now on?

+1

He won't though.

There is hope for you lemmings, yet. Get the vax and be a patriot!