Do you honestly believe that they will award a quarter of a billion dollars in damages in a case that lacks sufficient evidence to justify a criminal case?
The question I have over this lawsuit being brought by the State of New York is where was the state of New York damaged at all financially by any of this? I just don't see any fiscal damage on the part of New York, and certainly nowhere near the order of $250 million being sought by James. How does Trump getting preferential rates on loans or insurance impact the state of New York? The state of New York gets income on the property value, which they have their own team of assessors to figure out.
What you are saying is that the State of New York does not have standing to bring suit. They do. Read the seven Causes of Action toward the end of the Complaint. The Executive Law alleged to be violated empowers the state Attorney General to go after fraudsters for restitution, damages and injunctive relief.
In the Prayer for Relief, it looks like the NY AG was all future fraud enjoined (stopped), an independent monitor for everything the Trump Organization does, barring all the Trumps from serving as an officer or director of a NY company, and disgorgement of all financial benefits gained by fraud. They are saying it's around $250 million. I'm not sure who that money would go to.
These guys are busted to hell. That is a very detailed Complaint and pretty damning. Trump didn't help his case by pleading the Fifth either. That will come back to haunt him badly.
Yep! Most of that money will likely go to the State of New York. These moron Trumpers don't understand a damn thing.
This is a big deal...besides being a big fine hit, it will substantially affect his future income from his criminal enterprise. On top of that, it can ONLY hurt Trump as other CRIMINAL prosecutors see that he's not made of teflon after all. There will be a whimper from Trumpers after he loses this lawsuit, and that also helps pave the way for the criminal indictments that are coming his way.
Just nothing good for Trump and Trumpers coming out of this.
It's not a political witch hunt either...it's called law and order. He and his idiot children broke the law. They will pay...right now financially...eventually Trump will pay with his freedom.
What you are saying is that the State of New York does not have standing to bring suit. They do. Read the seven Causes of Action toward the end of the Complaint. The Executive Law alleged to be violated empowers the state Attorney General to go after fraudsters for restitution, damages and injunctive relief.
In the Prayer for Relief, it looks like the NY AG was all future fraud enjoined (stopped), an independent monitor for everything the Trump Organization does, barring all the Trumps from serving as an officer or director of a NY company, and disgorgement of all financial benefits gained by fraud. They are saying it's around $250 million. I'm not sure who that money would go to.
These guys are busted to hell. That is a very detailed Complaint and pretty damning. Trump didn't help his case by pleading the Fifth either. That will come back to haunt him badly.
Do you honestly believe that they will award a quarter of a billion dollars in damages in a case that lacks sufficient evidence to justify a criminal case?
If you get a jury as dumb as the liberals on LR? Absolutely.
And they will all remain too stupid to understand that all they proved was their own stupidity.
Do you honestly believe that they will award a quarter of a billion dollars in damages in a case that lacks sufficient evidence to justify a criminal case?
If you get a jury as dumb as the liberals on LR? Absolutely.
And they will all remain too stupid to understand that all they proved was their own stupidity.
Do you honestly believe that they will award a quarter of a billion dollars in damages in a case that lacks sufficient evidence to justify a criminal case?
How to show you're not a lawyer without saying, "I'm not a lawyer"!
He and his idiot children broke the law. They will pay...right now financially...
You and I have different concepts of "right now," I suppose. Even assuming they're found liable, which likely would not happen before next year, there would still be appeals available.
Late 2023 would be the earliest they would pay anything (unless they settle--possible, not likely), and I think the 11/24 elections could be past before they actually pay a penny.
James is going after him here Civilly, and she has referred this as a criminal charge to the SDNY and the IRS.
You are wrong generally here. You can still be doing fraudulent and illegal things and yet be charged civilly because it is harder to get a criminal conviction.
Again though, she has referred these crimes now for criminal prosecution.
You moron Trumpers are bending yourselves into pretzels to try to defend this criminal behavior. You are hoping this is it, but this is just getting started. Trump will be indicted on many fronts. This civil lawsuit is just gravy...and it tastes oh so good!
If you get your wish and Trump can't run in 2024 you're just guaranteeing a biblical level landslide of DeSantis over Newsome.
You're so dumb it's hilarious.
So, you don't get it. I'm not Team Democrat. I am Team JUSTICE. Donald Trump is a criminal. Criminals need to be put into prison, and in Trump's case ALSO banned from running for office again and hit hard financially.
If someone had a crystal ball and told me that with 100% certainty that putting Trump in prison would guarantee that DeSantis became President in 2024, I'd say, "Put Trump in prison." And that ONLY has to do with making him accountable for his crimes, NOT to "own Trumpers." Though, I will admit I will smile at all you fools who backed him and said he'd never be held accountable.
If DeSantis gets into office and starts criming like Trump did, we'll deal with him then.
TRUMP needs to be held accountable. I could not care less how that affects the next election for President.
I know that's hard to grasp for a person such as yourself who is in a cult, but try, you moron Trumper, just try.
What you are saying is that the State of New York does not have standing to bring suit. They do. Read the seven Causes of Action toward the end of the Complaint. The Executive Law alleged to be violated empowers the state Attorney General to go after fraudsters for restitution, damages and injunctive relief.
In the Prayer for Relief, it looks like the NY AG was all future fraud enjoined (stopped), an independent monitor for everything the Trump Organization does, barring all the Trumps from serving as an officer or director of a NY company, and disgorgement of all financial benefits gained by fraud. They are saying it's around $250 million. I'm not sure who that money would go to.
These guys are busted to hell. That is a very detailed Complaint and pretty damning. Trump didn't help his case by pleading the Fifth either. That will come back to haunt him badly.
If someone is trying to hang you, you don't give them a rope. He plead the fifth because they were on a fishing expedition, trying to get evidence to lodge a criminal complaint under the guise of a civil suit. She campaigned on sending him to prison and has put forth a frivolous, weak case to appease her voting base.
Well they got what they were fishing for, because that Complaint is comprehensive.
And only guilty people plead the Fifth. Why the hell would an innocent person plead the Fifth?
If you get your wish and Trump can't run in 2024 you're just guaranteeing a biblical level landslide of DeSantis over Newsome.
You're so dumb it's hilarious.
So, you don't get it. I'm not Team Democrat. I am Team JUSTICE. Donald Trump is a criminal. Criminals need to be put into prison, and in Trump's case ALSO banned from running for office again and hit hard financially.
If someone had a crystal ball and told me that with 100% certainty that putting Trump in prison would guarantee that DeSantis became President in 2024, I'd say, "Put Trump in prison." And that ONLY has to do with making him accountable for his crimes, NOT to "own Trumpers." Though, I will admit I will smile at all you fools who backed him and said he'd never be held accountable.
If DeSantis gets into office and starts criming like Trump did, we'll deal with him then.
TRUMP needs to be held accountable. I could not care less how that affects the next election for President.
I know that's hard to grasp for a person such as yourself who is in a cult, but try, you moron Trumper, just try.
Biden and Clinton both broke the law. You don't care because you like their politics.
What law did Trump break here?
Why is it a civil suit instead of a legal suit?
What in the blue f*ck does any of this have to do with his kids?
This is a baseless political hit job and you love it because it's targeting the other team.
What you are saying is that the State of New York does not have standing to bring suit. They do. Read the seven Causes of Action toward the end of the Complaint. The Executive Law alleged to be violated empowers the state Attorney General to go after fraudsters for restitution, damages and injunctive relief.
In the Prayer for Relief, it looks like the NY AG was all future fraud enjoined (stopped), an independent monitor for everything the Trump Organization does, barring all the Trumps from serving as an officer or director of a NY company, and disgorgement of all financial benefits gained by fraud. They are saying it's around $250 million. I'm not sure who that money would go to.
These guys are busted to hell. That is a very detailed Complaint and pretty damning. Trump didn't help his case by pleading the Fifth either. That will come back to haunt him badly.
Do you honestly believe that they will award a quarter of a billion dollars in damages in a case that lacks sufficient evidence to justify a criminal case?
I have no idea. I'd have to read the Complaint a lot more carefully than I've been able to thus far to see how the numbers are adding up. But your point about such a damages aware being unlikely because there is insufficient evidence for criminal charges is (1) conclusory and speculative as to the criminal charges and (2) illogical regarding the damages award.
He and his idiot children broke the law. They will pay...right now financially...
You and I have different concepts of "right now," I suppose. Even assuming they're found liable, which likely would not happen before next year, there would still be appeals available.
Late 2023 would be the earliest they would pay anything (unless they settle--possible, not likely), and I think the 11/24 elections could be past before they actually pay a penny.
Or declare bankruptcy.
Ok...I can envision that timeline.
Criminal indictments may come AFTER that...we'll see.
Trump and his idiot adult children DO have assets they can liquidate, BUT, even if they can all declare bankruptcy and not have to pay $250 million, it STILL harms them both financially and politically.
James is basically going after The Trump Organization. Even if they could re-establish it in another state, making them not be able to operate in any way in NY is a big deal. ALL of them have this winner label that will be greatly tarnished if they all have to declare bankruptcy. Makes them all LOSERS to all but the most Trumpian of Trumpers. This helps keep them from future criming and greatly damages future political futures of the three idiot children.
If it was as easy to become a billionaire as stupid people think it is there would be a lot more billionaires in the world.
You are so unbelievably stupid. No one has said it is easy to become a billionaire. It is easy to become one when your Daddy leaves you enough to easily become one today back in 1974. How do you go through life being this stupid? That's a rhetorical question by the way.
If you Trump fanboys want to give Trump ANY credit at all, what you need to do is give him credit for making his name a household name. He was that even before he became President. He made most of the world (including me at the time) believe he was a big success, because he was great at promoting himself. New York City elites knew for decades he was not a great success though. Kind of easy to do when you're a narcissist, but he did manage that nonetheless.
Trump's net worth puts him at about 339th in the world. Definitely a LOT of billionaires ahead of him that you Trumpers have never heard of.
The BBC wrote an article to dismiss claims that thousands of dead people voted in Michigan in the 2020 election and accidentally showed that it happened.
They pulled a tiny sample to put the conspiracy theory to bed and 1% of their sample was dead voters.
5.4 million people voted in Michigan. If just 1% of them were dead that's 54,000 votes.
Adults in Michigan tried to clean all the dead voters off the voter rolls in Michigan and the corrupt Secretary of State tried to block the move because... these are Democrat votes.
A federal district court denied Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson’s attempt at dismissing a lawsuit for failing to remove dead registrants from the state’s voter rolls.
’conservatives’ just don’t think the law applies to them.
NYT:
A campaign watchdog group has filed a formal complaint with the Federal Election Commission against the campaign arm of Senate Republicans, accusing the group of breaking federal law by using money that is supposed to be earmarked for legal expenses on campaign ads instead. The complaint was filed this week by the Campaign Legal Center after the unusual use of walled-off legal funds by the National Republican Senatorial Committee was first reported by The New York Times this month. End Citizens United, a group that advocates changes to campaign finance law, joined the complaint.
GOP House candidate J.R. Majewski lied about aspects of his military service, according to the Associated Press.
Majewski has repeatedly said he served in Afghanistan, but military records indicate he actually served in Qatar.
Insider previously discovered Majewski violated federal law by neglecting to disclose his personal finances.
Richard Blumenthal still says he was in Vietnam...
John Kerry has 3 self-inflicted purple hearts.
Nonequals talks like he stormed the beaches at Iwo Jima because he made mashed potatoes an played ping pong on an aircraft carrier for 3 years in the 80s...
Yeah, I'll already break my rule for an utter as**** like you. What the f*** do you know about my service? Nothing. Where I went, what I did, what I wear on my chest? Nothing.
You're the f***** as**** who regularly likes to use your cutesy little expressions like, "Little man."
How little of a man are you who baselessly impugns the service of Americans to try to score points on a message board?
Oh, that's right, the same one who calls for the execution of federal law enforcement officials And thinks the election was stolen. And hears Trump ask for 11,000 votes and pretends he didn't.
You know all of the really nasty things actual adults have said about you on this thread? They're 100% accurate. The fact that you're apparently thick-skinned and a glutton for punishment doesn't change any of that.
You said you were in the Navy in the 80s on an aircraft carrier that was decommissioned before the Gulf War.
So I know you were a peace time sailor who never saw any action.
You routinely bring up your service as if it matters. I'm simply pointing out that the average Uber driver endures more hardship than you did.
Wow, your shamelessness knows no bounds. You 100% completely made that up.
But 100% consistent with the rest of your lying and delusion and general, “I’m a fu**** terrible human being.”