"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

CDC finally has population level data for cases and deaths by vaccine status:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status

2600 bro wrote:

vaccinatedspermguzzler wrote:

It's always invigorating to see you use a different name to reply for one of your other names.

When I look for healthcare advice on the internet I always put my trust in someone with multiple personality disorder.

No one is giving you healthcare advice. We are just laughing at your attempts to derail this thread with gradeschool-level trolling.

This is LRC. We expect better.

It must not be a very strong thread if my "gradeschool level trolling" could derail it, but it was really derailed a long time ago when it became obvious the only supporters of the thread all reside at the same ip address.

vaccinatedspermguzzler wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

No one is giving you healthcare advice. We are just laughing at your attempts to derail this thread with gradeschool-level trolling.

This is LRC. We expect better.

It must not be a very strong thread if my "gradeschool level trolling" could derail it, but it was really derailed a long time ago when it became obvious the only supporters of the thread all reside at the same ip address.

Yikes do you not know what “attempts” means. Grade school might have be optimistic :)

Thoughts on the CDC data?

2600 bro wrote:

vaccinatedspermguzzler wrote:

It must not be a very strong thread if my "gradeschool level trolling" could derail it, but it was really derailed a long time ago when it became obvious the only supporters of the thread all reside at the same ip address.

Yikes do you not know what “attempts” means. Grade school might have be optimistic :)

Thoughts on the CDC data?

Hi Harambe!!!

Harambe wrote:

joed|rtball wrote:

If you really feel that boosters that provide little benefit should be mandated, then why not mandate boosters for measles, mumps, and every other infectious disease. Why limit it to COVID?

Many vaccines are 3+ dose schedules. There's nothing special about 2 doses, especially in a pandemic when we are figuring out the immunological parameters as we go.

I see no evidence for significantly worse adverse events in prior infected after vaccination. There are studies that have looked at this. The boost to immunity is worth the tox. profiles seen so far.

You don't see it because you are in love with Walensky and Fauci who have mocked the concept of natural immunity, only to have study after study and real world data shoved squarely in their face.

The people in charge of the science are ignoring the science. They have lost most of their credibility and are looking increasingly like sales people for the pharmaceutical companies.

2600 bro wrote:

vaccinatedspermguzzler wrote:

It must not be a very strong thread if my "gradeschool level trolling" could derail it, but it was really derailed a long time ago when it became obvious the only supporters of the thread all reside at the same ip address.

Yikes do you not know what “attempts” means. Grade school might have be optimistic :)

Thoughts on the CDC data?

You must not know what "could" means.

Lots of distraction from the key points today

1) CDC data confirms that the vaccines remain protective against infection (6.6X risk if unvax) and death (11.1X risk)

2) Immunophenotyping shows increasing memory response over time from vaccination… suggesting the efficacy against severe disease and death will not wane anytime soon.

Pandemic. Of. The. Unvaccinated.

If you have recent, robust, data to counter these claims please … let’s discuss it. (Yes infection driven immunity exists but that requires COVID infection which has killed 700k Americans)

joed|rtball wrote:

You don't see it because you are in love with Walensky and Fauci who have mocked the concept of natural immunity, only to have study after study and real world data shoved squarely in their face.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8164507/

The people in charge of the science are ignoring the science. They have lost most of their credibility and are looking increasingly like sales people for the pharmaceutical companies.

"Only myalgia and arthralgia remain as significant outcomes once multiple comparisons were controlled for though pattern of outcomes remains similar."

I.e. prior infected feel more pain after a dose, exactly what you would expect for people with more prior immune challenges.

Immunization is associated with minor adverse effects. This is not new. Your fearmongering lacks a basis.

Also: I'm in favor of a single dose after prior COVID counting for the time being. That's a good compromise (for now) for people terrified of a little pain for a day or two.

The superiority of "natural immunity" is being pared down to size as the hype train slows down. Time to jump off before you look like a total fool. See: the HCQ and IVM loonies who rode their respective vehicles into the ground.

It's funny, nobody 'mocked the concept of natural immunity' they just didn't buy the hype that it was -that- much better than vaccination (especially after, uh, assessing the respective risks). Turns out that a careful, measured approach was correct. Ooops!

2600 bro wrote:

Lots of distraction from the key points today

1) CDC data confirms that the vaccines remain protective against infection (6.6X risk if unvax) and death (11.1X risk)

2) Immunophenotyping shows increasing memory response over time from vaccination… suggesting the efficacy against severe disease and death will not wane anytime soon.

Pandemic. Of. The. Unvaccinated.

If you have recent, robust, data to counter these claims please … let’s discuss it. (Yes infection driven immunity exists but that requires COVID infection which has killed 700k Americans)

This is a bit of a mic drop.

Vaccines work. They are saving lives when you morons bother to take them.

vaccinatedspermguzzler wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Yikes do you not know what “attempts” means. Grade school might have be optimistic :)

Thoughts on the CDC data?

You must not know what "could" means.

Shockingly, the low-IQ troll has no thoughts on the newly released CDC data. Who would have thought?

Harambe wrote:

vaccinatedspermguzzler wrote:

You must not know what "could" means.

Shockingly, the low-IQ troll has no thoughts on the newly released CDC data. Who would have thought?

56th day in a row antivaxxers go home devastated. So much devastation and humiliation, must give them credit for their persistence. Any expert troll would commend them for that at least.

Harambe wrote:

vaccinatedspermguzzler wrote:

You must not know what "could" means.

Shockingly, the low-IQ troll has no thoughts on the newly released CDC data. Who would have thought?

The guy who spent $99 for an account here claiming I have a low IQ? Lol

vaccinatedspermguzzler wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Shockingly, the low-IQ troll has no thoughts on the newly released CDC data. Who would have thought?

The guy who spent $99 for an account here claiming I have a low IQ? Lol

I’m just burning Soros-Clinton money bro. Use it or lose it

The Clown Show wrote:

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

Us Republicans aren't going to put with this infringement of personal freedoms on medical decisions & informed consent.

The legal battle is on!

The battle cry for selfish unAmericans everywhere. You are the least American person in America.

UnAmerican?...really CS? So, Republican leadership recommends the vaccines but also believes in "Informed Consent" and the vaccines should be voluntary & never forced on anyone! And that includes coercion, threats, harassment & oppression!

Here's what you don't want to understand: Both parties recommend the vaccine, but Liberal leadership takes it a step further by demanding people submit to a medical intervention removing informed consent and any personal freedom in the medical decision process. Us Republicans want to preserve informed consent & defend personal freedom concerning medical interventions/procedures. Is really not anymore complicated than that. That's "American" not "UnAmerican." This isn't Communist China where people don't have a choice. Perhaps you should move to China where you would be better suited to their style of government. And try to understand the foundation of informed consent. It's a fundamental principle of medical ethics still taught in med school today:

Harambe wrote:

This one dude has been using Ted Nugent as an example for weeks. It shows how little evidence for their insane positions they actually have.

Too funny, because if he had died of Covid you & your Liberal allies would be using this ad nuseam as an example of a Conservative Right-Winger biting the dust or some stupid analogy you Liberals use in mocking a conserative, anti-vaxxer, religious right, etc., who succumbs to the virus.

I know it irritates you to no end when an unvaccinated72 yr old recovers from Covid with flying colors when Liberal leadership would have everyone believe that it's impossible for an unvaccinated old person to survive Covid without needing hospitalization. Lol.

Harambe wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

Lots of distraction from the key points today

1) CDC data confirms that the vaccines remain protective against infection (6.6X risk if unvax) and death (11.1X risk)

2) Immunophenotyping shows increasing memory response over time from vaccination… suggesting the efficacy against severe disease and death will not wane anytime soon.

Pandemic. Of. The. Unvaccinated.

If you have recent, robust, data to counter these claims please … let’s discuss it. (Yes infection driven immunity exists but that requires COVID infection which has killed 700k Americans)

This is a bit of a mic drop.

Vaccines work. They are saving lives when you morons bother to take them.

It has been a true classic watch you regurgitate the 'expert' propoaganda verbatim. "Highly effective" over and over. You're not being mocked or anything, Truman...

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

Harambe wrote:

This one dude has been using Ted Nugent as an example for weeks. It shows how little evidence for their insane positions they actually have.

Too funny, because if he had died of Covid you & your Liberal allies would be using this ad nuseam as an example of a Conservative Right-Winger biting the dust or some stupid analogy you Liberals use in mocking a conserative, anti-vaxxer, religious right, etc., who succumbs to the virus.

I know it irritates you to no end when an unvaccinated72 yr old recovers from Covid with flying colors when Liberal leadership would have everyone believe that it's impossible for an unvaccinated old person to survive Covid without needing hospitalization. Lol.

Bro so many unvaccinated conservative morons have died of COVID we can use a new poster child every day. It’s tragic but my sympathy for the antivaxxer movement as a whole is nil.

You need to rely on one dude. There’s already been like 10 talk radio hosts who have died of COVID which is insane given that it’s a completely dead profession. No pun intended…

Anyway, none of this changes the fact that you -only- have a handful of anecdotes and diversions about “informed consent” (nobody is forcing you to get the vax except your employer, who can already fire you without your consent) in your talking point quiver. None of what you say remotely challenges the large compendium of data supporting vaccination…. Apologies my dude

same ol, but different wrote:

Harambe wrote:

This is a bit of a mic drop.

Vaccines work. They are saving lives when you morons bother to take them.

It has been a true classic watch you regurgitate the 'expert' propoaganda verbatim. "Highly effective" over and over. You're not being mocked or anything, Truman...

Denier-fearmongers and thinking video is an effective way communicate evidence. Name a lamer duo. Quick send me one of those 30 min ivermectin explainers. Those panned out well lol.

If you have evidence feel free to post it in a format that reasonably intelligent people use.

So-o-o effing "effective"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCrTgJr4w8w