I think of a typical trumper as a 40 something white guy who owns an F150, an AR15 and affects the look of a special forces soldier in Afghanistan circa 2006. No college. and those guys are the ones who will join the paramilitary groups when it comes to that.
But sure, the 60-80 year old angry white guy is a classic too. And the female celebrity worshippers fit in there too.
They aren't big fans of the humanities, any of them.
And part of my point is that Americans have *never* known much about history. It used not to matter because the parties filtered out the radicals. But now it matters that guys think Hitler was a leftist and we fought against communism in WW2.
Here is my short take:
When a group of people feel like they are being left behind/left out/losing power and influence they become angry and prone to believe pretty much anything that will justify their anger or, better yet, help them get back at those who made them angry.
yeah I think the historians will write up this period as largely a racial issue...white people feel like they are losing control of their country and it is driving them a little crazy. They feel left behind.
Race/tribe/culture/humiliation are such powerful drivers and trump uses them effectively to motivate and hate.
few trumpers vote on economics...it's mostly resentment about culture and race.
Agreed on the first sentence. But not so sure about the rest.
Yes, knowing nothing about history is probably not a good thing. But do you really think that the typical Trumpette never heard of Hitler? It seems to me that something else is going on.
What is your picture of the prototypical Trumpette? I know that there are others, but to me the core is the 60 year-old and 70 year-old white guy. These are folks who got their education in the 1970s - I think well before any perceived gutting of humanities curricula.
Not saying that our education system could not be/should not be improved but I just don't see that as a primary driver here. I am thinking more along the lines of nonequals' "inexplicable".
Perhaps folks like Toffler and Fromm are a bit closer to the mark.
I think of a typical trumper as a 40 something white guy who owns an F150, an AR15 and affects the look of a special forces soldier in Afghanistan circa 2006. No college. and those guys are the ones who will join the paramilitary groups when it comes to that.
But sure, the 60-80 year old angry white guy is a classic too. And the female celebrity worshippers fit in there too.
They aren't big fans of the humanities, any of them.
And part of my point is that Americans have *never* known much about history. It used not to matter because the parties filtered out the radicals. But now it matters that guys think Hitler was a leftist and we fought against communism in WW2.
Hitler was a leftist...
Being to the right of the communists doesn't mean you aren't still on the left.
Weird that a stolen valor "conservative" want leftists to win elections...
Yeah, I'll already break my rule for an utter as**** like you. What the f*** do you know about my service? Nothing. Where I went, what I did, what I wear on my chest? Nothing.
You're the f***** as**** who regularly likes to use your cutesy little expressions like, "Little man."
How little of a man are you who baselessly impugns the service of Americans to try to score points on a message board?
Oh, that's right, the same one who calls for the execution of federal law enforcement officials And thinks the election was stolen. And hears Trump ask for 11,000 votes and pretends he didn't.
You know all of the really nasty things actual adults have said about you on this thread? They're 100% accurate. The fact that you're apparently thick-skinned and a glutton for punishment doesn't change any of that.
I thought the Russians did steal the 2016 election?
Hillary told us. The MSM told us. Numerous pols told us
When a group of people feel like they are being left behind/left out/losing power and influence they become angry and prone to believe pretty much anything that will justify their anger or, better yet, help them get back at those who made them angry.
yeah I think the historians will write up this period as largely a racial issue...white people feel like they are losing control of their country and it is driving them a little crazy. They feel left behind.
Race/tribe/culture/humiliation are such powerful drivers and trump uses them effectively to motivate and hate.
few trumpers vote on economics...it's mostly resentment about culture and race.
Your lack of self awareness is amazing.
The Democrats are the party that's obsessed with race.
Even to the point that you attack uppity minorities that you think are too stupid to know their place is on the left.
yeah I think the historians will write up this period as largely a racial issue...white people feel like they are losing control of their country and it is driving them a little crazy. They feel left behind.
Funny if you replaced "country" with "city" you described the (almost all white) progressives here in Seattle who passionately hate the (majority Asian) tech industry
"few trumpers vote on economics...it's mostly resentment about culture and race."
I feel no obligation to be polite to a a leftist POS who declares that anyone who disagrees with him is just racist.
I'm rude to rude people.
I’ve found that being rude, even if it’s justified, makes you unconvincing. Although I’m sure you know that and just don’t care. Side question, did you read that Huntington drama thread?
"few trumpers vote on economics...it's mostly resentment about culture and race."
I feel no obligation to be polite to a a leftist POS who declares that anyone who disagrees with him is just racist.
I'm rude to rude people.
I’ve found that being rude, even if it’s justified, makes you unconvincing. Although I’m sure you know that and just don’t care. Side question, did you read that Huntington drama thread?
Sorry, this has to be related to the president so FJB there happy?
Wow. Trump's lawyers are getting taken to the woodshed...
Judge Dearie: What business is it of the court? (to determine if the docs are classified if Trump refuses to say they are). Executive branch says what docs are classified and they are classified. End of matter.
"few trumpers vote on economics...it's mostly resentment about culture and race."
I feel no obligation to be polite to a a leftist POS who declares that anyone who disagrees with him is just racist.
I'm rude to rude people.
I’ve found that being rude, even if it’s justified, makes you unconvincing. Although I’m sure you know that and just don’t care. Side question, did you read that Huntington drama thread?
I don't think anyone here is open to having their mind changed.
yeah I think the historians will write up this period as largely a racial issue...white people feel like they are losing control of their country and it is driving them a little crazy. They feel left behind.
Funny if you replaced "country" with "city" you described the (almost all white) progressives here in Seattle who passionately hate the (majority Asian) tech industry
yeah well let me know when that cohort votes for a president who actively tears down American democracy, is under multiple criminal investigations and who sends mobs to sack congress!
I’ve found that being rude, even if it’s justified, makes you unconvincing. Although I’m sure you know that and just don’t care. Side question, did you read that Huntington drama thread?
I don't think anyone here is open to having their mind changed.
I didn't read the Huntington thread.
Inflation, Bernie sanders, TDS, no equals. Well if you have the time, I’d love to know what you think. Some kid toucher is still allowed to hang out around kids for some reason. FJB, relevant topic thread, economy, agip.
Wow. Trump's lawyers are getting taken to the woodshed...
Judge Dearie: What business is it of the court? (to determine if the docs are classified if Trump refuses to say they are). Executive branch says what docs are classified and they are classified. End of matter.
And this is judge that Trump's side picked.
In his interview the other day Joey Biden said he had no input on the proceedings with Trump. However, that is a false statement, as only he can make decisions regarding executive privilege.
Funny if you replaced "country" with "city" you described the (almost all white) progressives here in Seattle who passionately hate the (majority Asian) tech industry
yeah well let me know when that cohort votes for a president who actively tears down American democracy, is under multiple criminal investigations and who sends mobs to sack congress!
That cohort broke into and stormed the city hall, and illegally occupied a few blocks of downtown for a month! But yeah, it's local not federal.
Special Master to Trump lawyers: “If the government gives me prima facia evidence that they are classified documents, and you don’t advance any claim of declassification, I’m left with a prima facia case of classified documents, and as far as I’m concerned, that’s the end of it,”
yeah well let me know when that cohort votes for a president who actively tears down American democracy, is under multiple criminal investigations and who sends mobs to sack congress!
That cohort broke into and stormed the city hall, and illegally occupied a few blocks of downtown for a month! But yeah, it's local not federal.
There are many protests of various kinds. Some of them unfortunately turn violent and/or destructive. What sets the J6 activities apart is that they were part of larger effort to overthrow the US government.
If the Seattle protests were part of a serious effort to overthrow the government, even locally, then perhaps they belong in the same conversation. Otherwise, no.