I actually hope Trump beats him. Trump is the most toxic political actor in America. 81 million people at least hate the guy. Even if the economy is in shambles (which it will be I think), I count 81 million votes so far against him.
I think Ron will test it basically. He’s testing it right now. If he can win, or feels he has a good shot, he’ll go for it. The immigrant thing seemed to go over really well with Republicans. They are eating it up.
I hope justice comes for Trump before 2024.
DeSantis is proving to be worse and worse every day, but so far, he STILL is not the criminal (though that little stunt was perhaps criminal) that Trump is. He also doesn't have the deep pockets to be able to delay justice forever like Trump has been able to do, so he is much less likely to overtly break the law like Trump has.
I'm not so sure that that little stunt of his did him any favors. Riled up the M*A*G*A crowd, but he'll need more than that to beat Biden in 2024. Gotta get independents to win the day, and most of them don't support that nonsense.
We will need to be in a bad recession or an unpopular war for a Republican to have a chance to unseat Biden (or any other Democrat) in 2024.
If Biden were to have a major health scare or die just before the election, then a Republican could possibly win the White House in 2024 without a recession or unpopular war, but that is probably the only exception...other than cheating or aliens coming down here and making us all vote for a Republican.
Respectfully, I think you are discounting what the GOP is doing behind the scenes to corrupt future elections on the state level. I hate to be overly pessimistic but it appears they are getting it set up so if they do not like the results and Republicans have voting majority on the state level, they can just send in "alternate" electors legally. You know. What trump tried to do illegally.
So, for Trump to get a lawyer who is not a former lawyer for a parking garage, he had to pay $3 million dollars upfront (which experts say is exorbitant). He had to do this, of course, because he has a history of just not paying lawyers. Insanity.
Now, did this money come out of Trump's pocket? OF COURSE NOT! He took the money from his stupid Save America PAC.
So, you Trump cucks who continue to send that man money, have to pay a premium because Trump doesn't pay his lawyers. Better saddle up and send him some more money! Absolute fools.
DeSantis is proving to be worse and worse every day, but so far, he STILL is not the criminal (though that little stunt was perhaps criminal) that Trump is. He also doesn't have the deep pockets to be able to delay justice forever like Trump has been able to do, so he is much less likely to overtly break the law like Trump has.
I'm not so sure that that little stunt of his did him any favors. Riled up the M*A*G*A crowd, but he'll need more than that to beat Biden in 2024. Gotta get independents to win the day, and most of them don't support that nonsense.
We will need to be in a bad recession or an unpopular war for a Republican to have a chance to unseat Biden (or any other Democrat) in 2024.
If Biden were to have a major health scare or die just before the election, then a Republican could possibly win the White House in 2024 without a recession or unpopular war, but that is probably the only exception...other than cheating or aliens coming down here and making us all vote for a Republican.
Respectfully, I think you are discounting what the GOP is doing behind the scenes to corrupt future elections on the state level. I hate to be overly pessimistic but it appears they are getting it set up so if they do not like the results and Republicans have voting majority on the state level, they can just send in "alternate" electors legally. You know. What trump tried to do illegally.
I know they are attempting to do that. It's not going to fly.
So, for Trump to get a lawyer who is not a former lawyer for a parking garage, he had to pay $3 million dollars upfront (which experts say is exorbitant). He had to do this, of course, because he has a history of just not paying lawyers. Insanity.
Now, did this money come out of Trump's pocket? OF COURSE NOT! He took the money from his stupid Save America PAC.
So, you Trump cucks who continue to send that man money, have to pay a premium because Trump doesn't pay his lawyers. Better saddle up and send him some more money! Absolute fools.
Respectfully, please post Trump-related stuff in the Trump thread. Thanks in advance!
So, for Trump to get a lawyer who is not a former lawyer for a parking garage, he had to pay $3 million dollars upfront (which experts say is exorbitant). He had to do this, of course, because he has a history of just not paying lawyers. Insanity.
Now, did this money come out of Trump's pocket? OF COURSE NOT! He took the money from his stupid Save America PAC.
So, you Trump cucks who continue to send that man money, have to pay a premium because Trump doesn't pay his lawyers. Better saddle up and send him some more money! Absolute fools.
Respectfully, please post Trump-related stuff in the Trump thread. Thanks in advance!
So, for Trump to get a lawyer who is not a former lawyer for a parking garage, he had to pay $3 million dollars upfront (which experts say is exorbitant). He had to do this, of course, because he has a history of just not paying lawyers. Insanity.
Now, did this money come out of Trump's pocket? OF COURSE NOT! He took the money from his stupid Save America PAC.
So, you Trump cucks who continue to send that man money, have to pay a premium because Trump doesn't pay his lawyers. Better saddle up and send him some more money! Absolute fools.
Respectfully, please post Trump-related stuff in the Trump thread. Thanks in advance!
Respectfully, I think you are discounting what the GOP is doing behind the scenes to corrupt future elections on the state level. I hate to be overly pessimistic but it appears they are getting it set up so if they do not like the results and Republicans have voting majority on the state level, they can just send in "alternate" electors legally. You know. What trump tried to do illegally.
I know they are attempting to do that. It's not going to fly.
it'll likely fly
a federal court will say 'Arizona/Georgia/Wisconsin you can't do that'
the state will say 'watch me.' So the states submit electors decided by the R legislatures, not the voters.
then the electoral vote count will be disputed and the election will be thrown to the House, which will select DJT to be president.
The fix is in, gents. If the Rs want to elect DJT they can do it despite losing the election. And there's nothing America can do about it.
Which is another massive reason not to hope DJT is the R nominee.
(PS: I believe SCOTUS will decide next year if this scheme is constitutional. Not that Rs care if something is Constitutional but it could get an absolute stamp of legality from SCOTUS. And it will ruin every presidential election from here on out. )
I know they are attempting to do that. It's not going to fly.
it'll likely fly
a federal court will say 'Arizona/Georgia/Wisconsin you can't do that'
the state will say 'watch me.' So the states submit electors decided by the R legislatures, not the voters.
then the electoral vote count will be disputed and the election will be thrown to the House, which will select DJT to be president.
The fix is in, gents. If the Rs want to elect DJT they can do it despite losing the election. And there's nothing America can do about it.
Which is another massive reason not to hope DJT is the R nominee.
(PS: I believe SCOTUS will decide next year if this scheme is constitutional. Not that Rs care if something is Constitutional but it could get an absolute stamp of legality from SCOTUS. And it will ruin every presidential election from here on out. )
It is kind of amazing how well Bruce Springsteen nailed exactly who Trump is and what he would do going into the election. I hadn't seen this before. Not bad for a musician that the right wing says should "stay in their own lane".
Not to take anything away from Springsteen, but Trump protested the election results even when he won in 2016. Pretty much anyone paying attention knew he wouldn't take a loss gracefully.
I know they are attempting to do that. It's not going to fly.
it'll likely fly
a federal court will say 'Arizona/Georgia/Wisconsin you can't do that'
the state will say 'watch me.' So the states submit electors decided by the R legislatures, not the voters.
then the electoral vote count will be disputed and the election will be thrown to the House, which will select DJT to be president.
The fix is in, gents. If the Rs want to elect DJT they can do it despite losing the election. And there's nothing America can do about it.
Which is another massive reason not to hope DJT is the R nominee.
(PS: I believe SCOTUS will decide next year if this scheme is constitutional. Not that Rs care if something is Constitutional but it could get an absolute stamp of legality from SCOTUS. And it will ruin every presidential election from here on out. )
My worst case scenario used to be Roe v Wade overturned. I begged for people all summer long in 2020 to vote for Joe for that reason. I got banned from r/feminism for it (lol). Now I don’t care. If Americans just stand by and let this happen, then we deserve it. I assure you that I will do my best, but what is my best? One vote and attending the “save democracy” protest? Do we storm the capital?
It is really fascinating how much GOP candidates need to publicly debase themselves if they want to come into Trump's favor. Of course when I say come into Trump's favor I mean get him to endorse you. Because Trump is loyal only to himself. He will turn on you in a second.
How can you as a respectable human allow Trump to get on stage and say you are now "kissing his Azz" while his cult laughs at the joke and you? He has destroyed untold counts of people's careers yet, every election you have new ones that want more of that. The man lost the Presidency, The House, The senate, impeached twice. He is a loser yet the GOP continue to hitch their wagon to him. And Letsrun poster too.
I do not think of it so much as the GOP hitching their wagon to them. Trump IS the wagon. The horses pulling it are the millions of Trumpettes in this country, the folks that have so many of us scratching our heads and thinking, "you can't really be THAT stup!d, can you?" And the GOP are those teeny little cowboys scurrying around in the dust, desperately trying not to get run over by the wagon.
I largely agree with this. I often get annoyed when the media - sincerely or not, I'm not always sure - plays down the responsibility of the Trumpers by saying, "They've been lied to," and other similar sentiments.
BS. They're responsible for their opinions and what and who they support. And the clincher is that Trump ain't subtle, nuanced, tricky, or anything of the sort. One knows EXACTLY what one is supporting.
My groupings (wagons and horses gets too confusing!):
1) Trump
2) Trumpers roughly as reprehensible (see Jan 6 rioters).
3) Trumpers not nearly as reprehensible, but.......J-H-C, HOW can they not see how indefensible (and dangerous) their position is ?!?!
4) R politicians who clearly see ALL of it, and would probably admit how bad it is. But are utterly too unprincipled and/or cowardly to stand up against it. In other words, damn close to 100% of national Rs (and way too high a percentage of ALL of them).
I know they are attempting to do that. It's not going to fly.
it'll likely fly
a federal court will say 'Arizona/Georgia/Wisconsin you can't do that'
the state will say 'watch me.' So the states submit electors decided by the R legislatures, not the voters.
then the electoral vote count will be disputed and the election will be thrown to the House, which will select DJT to be president.
The fix is in, gents. If the Rs want to elect DJT they can do it despite losing the election. And there's nothing America can do about it.
Which is another massive reason not to hope DJT is the R nominee.
(PS: I believe SCOTUS will decide next year if this scheme is constitutional. Not that Rs care if something is Constitutional but it could get an absolute stamp of legality from SCOTUS. And it will ruin every presidential election from here on out. )
You literally stole the 2020 election...
No one alive with an IQ over 85 believes Joe Biden got over 81 million votes.
Democrats all over the country violated their own state constitutions to pass election laws through the courts to make fraudulent mail in voting as easy as possible as basically undetectable.
Everyone alive gets a ballot. And even plenty of dead people. Yay! You don't even have to sign it. Yay! If you do sign it the signature doesn't even have to match. Yay! Let's have unmonitored privately funded drop boxes. Yay! Let's count the ballots in secret with no Republican observers. Yay! Let's keep coolers and boxes full of ballots on hand just in case we need them. Yay!
Only F'ing morons think 2020 was legitimate.
Liberals clutching their pearls about election tampering is absolutely hysterical. The entire media was campaigning for Biden. Social media banned negative stories they thought would hurt Biden. The F'ing FBI instructed social media to ban stories they KNEW were true to protect Biden.
The system is completely rigged in your favor and STILL you lose elections because your ideas are TERRIBLE.
a federal court will say 'Arizona/Georgia/Wisconsin you can't do that'
the state will say 'watch me.' So the states submit electors decided by the R legislatures, not the voters.
then the electoral vote count will be disputed and the election will be thrown to the House, which will select DJT to be president.
The fix is in, gents. If the Rs want to elect DJT they can do it despite losing the election. And there's nothing America can do about it.
Which is another massive reason not to hope DJT is the R nominee.
(PS: I believe SCOTUS will decide next year if this scheme is constitutional. Not that Rs care if something is Constitutional but it could get an absolute stamp of legality from SCOTUS. And it will ruin every presidential election from here on out. )
My worst case scenario used to be Roe v Wade overturned. I begged for people all summer long in 2020 to vote for Joe for that reason. I got banned from r/feminism for it (lol). Now I don’t care. If Americans just stand by and let this happen, then we deserve it. I assure you that I will do my best, but what is my best? One vote and attending the “save democracy” protest? Do we storm the capital?
Your "worst case" scenario was states being able to choose their own laws?
The religious nut republicans obsession with abortion is the only thing keeping November from being an historic rejection of the Democrats.
a federal court will say 'Arizona/Georgia/Wisconsin you can't do that'
the state will say 'watch me.' So the states submit electors decided by the R legislatures, not the voters.
then the electoral vote count will be disputed and the election will be thrown to the House, which will select DJT to be president.
The fix is in, gents. If the Rs want to elect DJT they can do it despite losing the election. And there's nothing America can do about it.
Which is another massive reason not to hope DJT is the R nominee.
(PS: I believe SCOTUS will decide next year if this scheme is constitutional. Not that Rs care if something is Constitutional but it could get an absolute stamp of legality from SCOTUS. And it will ruin every presidential election from here on out. )
You literally stole the 2020 election...
No one alive with an IQ over 85 believes Joe Biden got over 81 million votes.
Democrats all over the country violated their own state constitutions to pass election laws through the courts to make fraudulent mail in voting as easy as possible as basically undetectable.
Everyone alive gets a ballot. And even plenty of dead people. Yay! You don't even have to sign it. Yay! If you do sign it the signature doesn't even have to match. Yay! Let's have unmonitored privately funded drop boxes. Yay! Let's count the ballots in secret with no Republican observers. Yay! Let's keep coolers and boxes full of ballots on hand just in case we need them. Yay!
Only F'ing morons think 2020 was legitimate.
Liberals clutching their pearls about election tampering is absolutely hysterical. The entire media was campaigning for Biden. Social media banned negative stories they thought would hurt Biden. The F'ing FBI instructed social media to ban stories they KNEW were true to protect Biden.
The system is completely rigged in your favor and STILL you lose elections because your ideas are TERRIBLE.
DeSantis is proving to be worse and worse every day, but so far, he STILL is not the criminal (though that little stunt was perhaps criminal) that Trump is. He also doesn't have the deep pockets to be able to delay justice forever like Trump has been able to do, so he is much less likely to overtly break the law like Trump has.
I'm not so sure that that little stunt of his did him any favors. Riled up the M*A*G*A crowd, but he'll need more than that to beat Biden in 2024. Gotta get independents to win the day, and most of them don't support that nonsense.
We will need to be in a bad recession or an unpopular war for a Republican to have a chance to unseat Biden (or any other Democrat) in 2024.
If Biden were to have a major health scare or die just before the election, then a Republican could possibly win the White House in 2024 without a recession or unpopular war, but that is probably the only exception...other than cheating or aliens coming down here and making us all vote for a Republican.
Respectfully, I think you are discounting what the GOP is doing behind the scenes to corrupt future elections on the state level. I hate to be overly pessimistic but it appears they are getting it set up so if they do not like the results and Republicans have voting majority on the state level, they can just send in "alternate" electors legally. You know. What trump tried to do illegally.
GOP Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming and Democratic Rep. Zoe Lofgren of California have proposed legislation to make it harder to overturn a certified presidential election in the future by proposing changes to the Electoral Count...
Not sure why it's take so freakin' long, but fortunately, there are politicians trying to reduce the chances. Kinda running out of time, though. Seems like getting things like this passed should have been a MUCH higher priority than producing and directing the Jan 6 hearings JUST SO (as much as I'm perfectly OK with both), and.....pretty much anything else one could legislate or investigate ???
My worst case scenario used to be Roe v Wade overturned. I begged for people all summer long in 2020 to vote for Joe for that reason. I got banned from r/feminism for it (lol). Now I don’t care. If Americans just stand by and let this happen, then we deserve it. I assure you that I will do my best, but what is my best? One vote and attending the “save democracy” protest? Do we storm the capital?
Your "worst case" scenario was states being able to choose their own laws?
The religious nut republicans obsession with abortion is the only thing keeping November from being an historic rejection of the Democrats.
I don’t think states should be able to do whatever they want, no.
a federal court will say 'Arizona/Georgia/Wisconsin you can't do that'
the state will say 'watch me.' So the states submit electors decided by the R legislatures, not the voters.
then the electoral vote count will be disputed and the election will be thrown to the House, which will select DJT to be president.
The fix is in, gents. If the Rs want to elect DJT they can do it despite losing the election. And there's nothing America can do about it.
Which is another massive reason not to hope DJT is the R nominee.
(PS: I believe SCOTUS will decide next year if this scheme is constitutional. Not that Rs care if something is Constitutional but it could get an absolute stamp of legality from SCOTUS. And it will ruin every presidential election from here on out. )
My worst case scenario used to be Roe v Wade overturned. I begged for people all summer long in 2020 to vote for Joe for that reason. I got banned from r/feminism for it (lol). Now I don’t care. If Americans just stand by and let this happen, then we deserve it. I assure you that I will do my best, but what is my best? One vote and attending the “save democracy” protest? Do we storm the capital?
What state do you live in Hunter? Do you live in a state where the repeal of Roe affected you in the least? I'm guessing you live in a liberal state where it didn't change your life whatsoever and you are just virtue signaling your beliefs to other states. That is why anti-federalists like myself see absolutely nothing wrong with the repeal of Roe. When we do not have an oppressive Federal government, people are free to live in a state that represents their values.
My worst case scenario used to be Roe v Wade overturned. I begged for people all summer long in 2020 to vote for Joe for that reason. I got banned from r/feminism for it (lol). Now I don’t care. If Americans just stand by and let this happen, then we deserve it. I assure you that I will do my best, but what is my best? One vote and attending the “save democracy” protest? Do we storm the capital?
What state do you live in Hunter? Do you live in a state where the repeal of Roe affected you in the least? I'm guessing you live in a liberal state where it didn't change your life whatsoever and you are just virtue signaling your beliefs to other states. That is why anti-federalists like myself see absolutely nothing wrong with the repeal of Roe. When we do not have an oppressive Federal government, people are free to live in a state that represents their values.
The ‘conservatives’ are going to pass a nationwide ban on abortion the minute they have the ability. they have told us this.
