Southlake has produced a solid group of Division I talent. Just a quick search.
Courtney Kriegshauser 2013 Vanderbilt Tatum Foreman 2019 Samford Cate Tracht 2016 Mississippi Gillian Mortimer 2016 Vanderbilt Alison Esparza 2016 SMU Grace Williamson 2019 University of Oklahoma Shelby Chapin 2013 Arkansas Tig Archer 2014 West Virginia University Katherine McElaney 2019 Texas A&M Jenna Holland 2019 Vanderbilt
Kaylie Cox 2021 Arkansas
Reed Brown 2017 Oregon Neal Smith 2010 OSU Connor Hendrickson 2013 University of Texas Joe Sansone 2013 UNC Charlie Gardner 2017 Yale Jack Myers 2019 University of Texas Trevor Gilley 2013 Mississippi Nicholas Fernandes 2016 Houston Eli Canal 2015 Texas A&M
I think the point is that the only person to do much of anything is Brown. The others ran pretty fast in high school. Fast enough to run at some solid D1 schools but then did not improve.
Incorrect, everyone but maybe 1-2 on that list of 20 improved in College, but maybe no one became All Americans etc. I think your perspective isn’t realistic thinking a strong High School team is also producing numerous Division I All Americans. Fact is All American talent is very special and is only because of coaching to a certain extent. Most are just one off talents from average High School teams.
Add up how many High Schools there are, how many High School runners, and then how few run in college and how few become All Americans. Southlake Carroll may consistently be Top 10 Nationally, but how often have they had individuals top 10-20?
I think the point is that the only person to do much of anything is Brown. The others ran pretty fast in high school. Fast enough to run at some solid D1 schools but then did not improve.
Incorrect, everyone but maybe 1-2 on that list of 20 improved in College, but maybe no one became All Americans etc. I think your perspective isn’t realistic thinking a strong High School team is also producing numerous Division I All Americans. Fact is All American talent is very special and is only because of coaching to a certain extent. Most are just one off talents from average High School teams.
Add up how many High Schools there are, how many High School runners, and then how few run in college and how few become All Americans. Southlake Carroll may consistently be Top 10 Nationally, but how often have they had individuals top 10-20?
No one is expecting all-americans.
This isn't complicated. SL (and many other top HS teams) train extremely hard. So there's less room for growth in college.
Look at the names above and you see that. Did some improve? Of course. But relative to what they were in HS, not so much. That was the entire point of the original poster I believe.
You must be a SL guy to take this personally. The same is true of The Woodlands or any top team.
Southlake has produced a solid group of Division I talent. Just a quick search.
Courtney Kriegshauser 2013 Vanderbilt Tatum Foreman 2019 Samford Cate Tracht 2016 Mississippi Gillian Mortimer 2016 Vanderbilt Alison Esparza 2016 SMU Grace Williamson 2019 University of Oklahoma Shelby Chapin 2013 Arkansas Tig Archer 2014 West Virginia University Katherine McElaney 2019 Texas A&M Jenna Holland 2019 Vanderbilt
Kaylie Cox 2021 Arkansas
Reed Brown 2017 Oregon Neal Smith 2010 OSU Connor Hendrickson 2013 University of Texas Joe Sansone 2013 UNC Charlie Gardner 2017 Yale Jack Myers 2019 University of Texas Trevor Gilley 2013 Mississippi Nicholas Fernandes 2016 Houston Eli Canal 2015 Texas A&M
I think the point is that the only person to do much of anything is Brown. The others ran pretty fast in high school. Fast enough to run at some solid D1 schools but then did not improve.
Colby Lowe was AA twice I believe in XC for OSU.. Probably the best of the bunch in XC
With district meets complete, what are the state podium contenders looking like?
I think on the boys side:
Southlake Carroll will win
The Woodlands and Coppell will be fighting for the second spot. Coppell will need a 5th man to have a better chance of beating the Woodlands. Those are also the 2 teams fighting for the second spot at NXR (since Jesuit decided RunningLane instead)
Atascocita is a team on the outside looking in to challenge for the podium (especially being very senior-heavy and because they barely missed the podium the last 2 years). But it will be very hard for them to beat any of the teams I mentioned above unfortunately.
How much does it stink for Atascocita to be so senior-heavy this year and not be good enough to podium at state? Have they ever made the podium before?
If you look at the order of the nonsenior finishers for Atascocita on varsity / JV it went like: 11 (varsity) 11 (JV) 10 (JV) 10 (JV) 10 (JV) 10 (JV) 11 (JV)
Also a freshman in the top 4 in the freshman race. I think next year they will be very young, so hopefully in 2 years they will have a chance to podium.
He ran in the top 7 at the Carroll invite (got the 7th spot there). If he doesn’t make the top 7 at state, it might be a good idea to let him run unattached at the NXR championship race, and he can bump someone off if he beats a top 7 guy (top 5 or top 1 especially). Loudoun Valley did that in 2017 and 2018. They can still autoqualify without him. But he might be a key if they wanna do really well at nationals.
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I think the woodlands will beat Coppell at state and NXR and will go to NXN (unless they choke at NXR like in 2017/2018, or unless Jesuit la decides NXR)
wylie almost beat woodlands. I wonder if teams like woodlands, Coppell, and atascocita didn’t go all-out so they can save some energy until state and NXR
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