Just leaving this here. Last time this law applied: 1869.
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kibitzer wrote:
Just leaving this here. Last time this law applied: 1869.
yeah that's around the last time we had 'conservatives' decide to attack the US government. So it makes sense to use the same law.
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agip wrote:
Koko the Gorilla wrote:
I will vote against all politicians that support mask mandates because it directly affects my life
. You do that. The rest of us will make adult decisions, taking in everything when we vote. We'll try to take care of the big picture while you narcissistically focus on one tiny tiny issue that bugs you to no end. Cool?
My issues are infinitely bigger issue than stupid "democracy" theater
You old boomers are insulated from inflation, schools, crime, drugs, masks, whatever, yall just sit on your comfy sofa in the house you bought for $90,000 back in 1987 all day while CNN tells you "dEmOcRaCy iS iN pEriL"
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Koko the Gorilla wrote:
agip wrote:
yeah you make your national voting decision on what local politicians in LA do. Good plan.
I will vote against all politicians that support mask mandates because it directly affects my life
You are a moron.
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Koko the Gorilla wrote:
agip wrote:
. You do that. The rest of us will make adult decisions, taking in everything when we vote. We'll try to take care of the big picture while you narcissistically focus on one tiny tiny issue that bugs you to no end. Cool?
My issues are infinitely bigger issue than stupid "democracy" theater
You old boomers are insulated from inflation, schools, crime, drugs, masks, whatever, yall just sit on your comfy sofa in the house you bought for $90,000 back in 1987 all day while CNN tells you "dEmOcRaCy iS iN pEriL"
hah the diversion police call that a misdemeanor.
Please surrender yourself to the nearest CDC site for mandatory vaccination and mask wearing classes, followed up by a 'how men should wear women's clothes' seminar, with a grand finale of gay marriages for all.
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agip wrote:
Koko the Gorilla wrote:
My issues are infinitely bigger issue than stupid "democracy" theater
You old boomers are insulated from inflation, schools, crime, drugs, masks, whatever, yall just sit on your comfy sofa in the house you bought for $90,000 back in 1987 all day while CNN tells you "dEmOcRaCy iS iN pEriL"
hah the diversion police call that a misdemeanor.
Please surrender yourself to the nearest CDC site for mandatory vaccination and mask wearing classes, followed up by a 'how men should wear women's clothes' seminar, with a grand finale of gay marriages for all.
You're the one diverting from the ridiculous mask mandate
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Koko the Gorilla wrote:
agip wrote:
hah the diversion police call that a misdemeanor.
Please surrender yourself to the nearest CDC site for mandatory vaccination and mask wearing classes, followed up by a 'how men should wear women's clothes' seminar, with a grand finale of gay marriages for all.
You're the one diverting from the ridiculous mask mandate
Says the guy who moved directly from mask mandates to boomers and their home buying activity 40 years ago.
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agip wrote:
Koko the Gorilla wrote:
You're the one diverting from the ridiculous mask mandate
Says the guy who moved directly from mask mandates to boomers and their home buying activity 40 years ago.
Yeah so back to the mask mandate. It's child abuse
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Koko the Gorilla wrote:
agip wrote:
. You do that. The rest of us will make adult decisions, taking in everything when we vote. We'll try to take care of the big picture while you narcissistically focus on one tiny tiny issue that bugs you to no end. Cool?
My issues are infinitely bigger issue than stupid "democracy" theater
You old boomers are insulated from inflation, schools, crime, drugs, masks, whatever, yall just sit on your comfy sofa in the house you bought for $90,000 back in 1987 all day while CNN tells you "dEmOcRaCy iS iN pEriL"
Not my fault that you are poor. Back in 1987, I had a job that paid $4 an hour mowing lawns. That's $8,000 a year. A $90,000 house then would have been 11.25 times my salary. I didn't qualify for a loan to buy a $90,000 house in 1987. I'm not even a Boomer and can go back to when salaries were nothing.
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Hooma wrote:
Koko the Gorilla wrote:
My issues are infinitely bigger issue than stupid "democracy" theater
You old boomers are insulated from inflation, schools, crime, drugs, masks, whatever, yall just sit on your comfy sofa in the house you bought for $90,000 back in 1987 all day while CNN tells you "dEmOcRaCy iS iN pEriL"
Not my fault that you are poor. Back in 1987, I had a job that paid $4 an hour mowing lawns. That's $8,000 a year. A $90,000 house then would have been 11.25 times my salary. I didn't qualify for a loan to buy a $90,000 house in 1987. I'm not even a Boomer and can go back to when salaries were nothing.
If I could have mowed lawns all year it would have been $8,000. I've never made more than $5,000 through work in any year ever.
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Flagpole wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
We HAVE moved on from Trump. It is only you Libs who keep him alive here. You stop talking about him and this thread will be Trump-free. We conservatives moved on a long time ago. You Libs just can't seem to get over him. Obsessing over someone like you did is really, really bad.
Hmm. I said I wasn't likely going to respond to you moron Trumpers today, BUT you have given me the opportunity to learn something here, so PLEASE enlighten me.
How have you, and I'll define "you" as Trumpers and the entire GOP moved on from Trump?
He still has a grip on the party. It has been said over and over that Republican candidates who publicly support him (for fear of not getting votes) privately do not. He is still today the odds-on favorite to win the GOP nomination. He still holds rallies.
How have you moved on? Has the GOP stood up a preferred candidate to support for 2024?
While I AM interested in your response, methinks you will just say that we won't let Trump's criminal behavior get swept under the rug. Well, you're right there, and we shouldn't. That and the fact that he still has an iron grip on the GOP (and he's dangerous) makes us still be concerned about him.
So, how have you moved on? (Note: if you DON'T actually teach me something here and say something moronic, I WILL tell you that what you said is moronic. I'm rooting for you! Good luck!)
I am not a Trumper/Trumpist or anything else. I despise the guy. So unless you can admit that we have nothing to talk about. I am a conservative and I think you Liberals are ruining the country. No Trump, No Trumpist - Quit bringing up trump.
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Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Hmm. I said I wasn't likely going to respond to you moron Trumpers today, BUT you have given me the opportunity to learn something here, so PLEASE enlighten me.
How have you, and I'll define "you" as Trumpers and the entire GOP moved on from Trump?
He still has a grip on the party. It has been said over and over that Republican candidates who publicly support him (for fear of not getting votes) privately do not. He is still today the odds-on favorite to win the GOP nomination. He still holds rallies.
How have you moved on? Has the GOP stood up a preferred candidate to support for 2024?
While I AM interested in your response, methinks you will just say that we won't let Trump's criminal behavior get swept under the rug. Well, you're right there, and we shouldn't. That and the fact that he still has an iron grip on the GOP (and he's dangerous) makes us still be concerned about him.
So, how have you moved on? (Note: if you DON'T actually teach me something here and say something moronic, I WILL tell you that what you said is moronic. I'm rooting for you! Good luck!)
I am not a Trumper/Trumpist or anything else. I despise the guy. So unless you can admit that we have nothing to talk about. I am a conservative and I think you Liberals are ruining the country. No Trump, No Trumpist - Quit bringing up trump.
1) You are clearly a Trumper. You defend him at every turn. You never criticize him or suggest that the GOP start to back another candidate.
2) I see that you can't answer how you've moved on from Trump. Got it.
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Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Hmm. I said I wasn't likely going to respond to you moron Trumpers today, BUT you have given me the opportunity to learn something here, so PLEASE enlighten me.
How have you, and I'll define "you" as Trumpers and the entire GOP moved on from Trump?
He still has a grip on the party. It has been said over and over that Republican candidates who publicly support him (for fear of not getting votes) privately do not. He is still today the odds-on favorite to win the GOP nomination. He still holds rallies.
How have you moved on? Has the GOP stood up a preferred candidate to support for 2024?
While I AM interested in your response, methinks you will just say that we won't let Trump's criminal behavior get swept under the rug. Well, you're right there, and we shouldn't. That and the fact that he still has an iron grip on the GOP (and he's dangerous) makes us still be concerned about him.
So, how have you moved on? (Note: if you DON'T actually teach me something here and say something moronic, I WILL tell you that what you said is moronic. I'm rooting for you! Good luck!)
I am not a Trumper/Trumpist or anything else. I despise the guy. So unless you can admit that we have nothing to talk about. I am a conservative and I think you Liberals are ruining the country. No Trump, No Trumpist - Quit bringing up trump.
I'll give you another shot.
1) What is it that you despise about Trump? No generalities. Specifically, what is it that about him that makes you "despise" him? Convince me that you aren't a Trumper. If you are sincere and give me real reasons why you despise Trump, I will believe you. Right now, I believe you are a Trumper.
2) How have all of you Trumpers "moved on" from Trump? I don't see it. (You can answer this is a LOT of ways, despite the way I asked it...but do a good job to try to prove your claim)
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Flagpole wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
I am not a Trumper/Trumpist or anything else. I despise the guy. So unless you can admit that we have nothing to talk about. I am a conservative and I think you Liberals are ruining the country. No Trump, No Trumpist - Quit bringing up trump.
I'll give you another shot.
1) What is it that you despise about Trump? No generalities. Specifically, what is it that about him that makes you "despise" him? Convince me that you aren't a Trumper. If you are sincere and give me real reasons why you despise Trump, I will believe you. Right now, I believe you are a Trumper.
2) How have all of you Trumpers "moved on" from Trump? I don't see it. (You can answer this is a LOT of ways, despite the way I asked it...but do a good job to try to prove your claim)
One shining example of how I have moved on from Trump is this ... come close ... I will whisper ... I NEVER even think about the guy. NEVER. I never talk about him. I tell you guys to post Trump stuff on the Trump thread - not on the Biden thread. We would never talk about Trump here if not for you Dems!!!! You guys bring him up day and night. My circle of friends are mainly conservatives - and we NEVER talk about Trump. He is so like 2020. We have moved on. If you Libs moved on Trump would never be discussed here.
As for Trump - he is a jackass. He is terrible to women. He is terrible to political opponents. He is terrible to everyone. I don't have much time to go much deeper - but Trump is a really bad person. Uncouth. A blowhard. Not well read. No interest in improving himself. No interest in learning stuff. I want to move on from the guy. Again, I never even think about the guy. I think DeSantis would be a great candidate. I am just rambling here.. But what I love about Trump - and derive so much pleasure is how he drives you Libs batty. You guys really are obsessed with the guy. You are terrified that he will run in 2024 and will win. this Mar-a-Lago crap is simply to make his running in 2024 undoable. You have attempted to portray him as an insurrectionist, then I see on Drudge Report how you are saying he might be selling nuclear secrets. It is nonstop how you are going after him with bogus charges. If Jan. 6 was really an insurrection how come the hearings have stopped. You guys have said it is the worst thing to happento the country ever but all of a sudden the hearings have quietly concluded. Sorry for the rambling. Doing something else at the same time.
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Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
I'll give you another shot.
1) What is it that you despise about Trump? No generalities. Specifically, what is it that about him that makes you "despise" him? Convince me that you aren't a Trumper. If you are sincere and give me real reasons why you despise Trump, I will believe you. Right now, I believe you are a Trumper.
2) How have all of you Trumpers "moved on" from Trump? I don't see it. (You can answer this is a LOT of ways, despite the way I asked it...but do a good job to try to prove your claim)
One shining example of how I have moved on from Trump is this ... come close ... I will whisper ... I NEVER even think about the guy. NEVER. I never talk about him. I tell you guys to post Trump stuff on the Trump thread - not on the Biden thread. We would never talk about Trump here if not for you Dems!!!! You guys bring him up day and night. My circle of friends are mainly conservatives - and we NEVER talk about Trump. He is so like 2020. We have moved on. If you Libs moved on Trump would never be discussed here.
As for Trump - he is a jackass. He is terrible to women. He is terrible to political opponents. He is terrible to everyone. I don't have much time to go much deeper - but Trump is a really bad person. Uncouth. A blowhard. Not well read. No interest in improving himself. No interest in learning stuff. I want to move on from the guy. Again, I never even think about the guy. I think DeSantis would be a great candidate. I am just rambling here.. But what I love about Trump - and derive so much pleasure is how he drives you Libs batty. You guys really are obsessed with the guy. You are terrified that he will run in 2024 and will win. this Mar-a-Lago crap is simply to make his running in 2024 undoable. You have attempted to portray him as an insurrectionist, then I see on Drudge Report how you are saying he might be selling nuclear secrets. It is nonstop how you are going after him with bogus charges. If Jan. 6 was really an insurrection how come the hearings have stopped. You guys have said it is the worst thing to happento the country ever but all of a sudden the hearings have quietly concluded. Sorry for the rambling. Doing something else at the same time.
1) You burying your head in the sand about the biggest US news story today (Trump and his crimes) is not a legitimate example of how TRUMPERS have moved on from Trump. So, no points for you there. Just gives an example of how it is you are so ignorant.
2) You say that Trump is "terrible" to women and "terrible" in a couple of other ways. You say he's "uncouth". Talk about not understanding how dangerous a person he is. Ok, I shouldn't have expected more (and I didn't) from you, but 4th grade vocabulary and understanding doesn't prove any point of yours that you were trying to make.
3) "Terrified" isn't the right word to describe how I feel that he might run again. He will NOT win if he is the GOP nominee. Americans in general are on to him and will not support him to a victory. My ONLY thing with regard to him is JUSTICE that needs to be served upon him.
4) Trump IS an insurrectionist. He invited and incited an insurrection. Just idiotic for you to say otherwise.
5) I have not said that Trump is selling nuclear secrets. I don't think that's beyond him to do that, and it will not surprise me in any way if we find out he did that (probably would be him selling nuclear secrets about another country, not OUR nuclear secrets, but again, NOTHING is beyond him because he has no morals). I know that you read stuff from The Drudge Report and other nonsense places you get your "news" and think that what you read applies to all Democrats, but that's because you're a moron.
6) Not bogus charges. Did he have top secret and classified information in his house or not? He admits he did. He hid them and lied that he returned everything. WTF are you talking about?
7) The hearings haven't stopped, you nimrod. They were in RECESS, and they have more planned in Oct. Good God man. Stop being such an idiot.
8) You said this - "...what I love about Trump...." Makes you a Trumper. The rest of what you said confirms that you are an ignorant moron.
You need to ask questions here only or just go away. You really are a deeply deeply stupid person.
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Interesting: Newsweek's report of a WSJ poll.
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Honestly, ignore everything I said. Just know one thing ... I am quite confident that Biden and his cronies (including the Dems in Congress) are ruining the country. Everything he has done is bad for the country. I don't have the time or inclination to go into everything but just look at the Stuldent debt "forgiveness" program. They are not forgiving anything. They are taking the debt incurred by largely wealthy people who signed up for loans t attend universities and transferring that debt to lower and middle class people who either never went to college or dutifully paid off their loans. How is it right to take that debt and just pass it on to poor people who never signed up for college loans? NOt one dem here can give me a good reason. That is travesty to pass that debt onto people who never signed up for those loans. The whole Biden presidency is crap like this. they don't care about anyting cept for their green/political agenda.
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Sally Vix wrote:
Honestly, ignore everything I said. Just know one thing ... I am quite confident that Biden and his cronies (including the Dems in Congress) are ruining the country. Everything he has done is bad for the country. I don't have the time or inclination to go into everything but just look at the Stuldent debt "forgiveness" program. They are not forgiving anything. They are taking the debt incurred by largely wealthy people who signed up for loans t attend universities and transferring that debt to lower and middle class people who either never went to college or dutifully paid off their loans. How is it right to take that debt and just pass it on to poor people who never signed up for college loans? NOt one dem here can give me a good reason. That is travesty to pass that debt onto people who never signed up for those loans. The whole Biden presidency is crap like this. they don't care about anyting cept for their green/political agenda.
Well, I can't ignore everything you said. Stupid is as stupid does, and you DID.
I will respond to this though.
1) I am NOT for college student loan debt forgiveness, but not for the reason most people aren't. I don't care that it's not fair to those who paid off their debts (boo hoo...not everything in life is fair). I'm against it because it doesn't help all people who need it and it is a TAD (not fully, but a tad) elitist. Not really a good long-term plan for Democrats. Democrats need to get back to supporting blue collar Americans...not to get their votes...because it is right. I ONLY do things because they are right.
2) The student loan debt thing is such a minor issue...it's an easy issue to attack, but in the grand scheme of things, it's small potatoes.
3) #1 and #2 above said, the whole Biden Presidency is in fact NOT like this at all. First of all, his ONLY job was to beat Trump...and he did that. That is the ONLY reason that the vast majority of us voted for him. We didn't require or expect a single thing more from him. BUT, we have gotten it...more gun control...more help for our veterans (and it's not enough)...expanding of the Affordable Care Act which does a LOT of good the ACA is PART of the reason the unemployment rate could drop so low...people can retire and be able to afford health care before age 65. This adds to our FREEDOM and it is a great thing. Infrastructure, guaranteed lower cost of prescription drugs (at no cost to tax payers), CHIPS and Science Act law which will bring high tech semiconductor chip manufacturing to the US. These are things that will help all Americans.
4) Most of the stuff in #3 above has nothing to do with a "green" agenda, so you're wrong about that.
I believe that stupid people can learn and that they can learn enough to stop being stupid. Start learning.
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formerly present wrote:
Interesting: Newsweek's report of a WSJ poll.
Biden wiped the floor with Trump, and if the two meet up again in 2024, Biden will destroy Trump again, and it will be even worse this time for Trump for two main reasons:
1) Trump's support isn't as big as it was in 2020.
2) A good number of Trump voters believe the election was stolen and have promised never to vote again because they don't trust the system.
A third very minor reason is that an inordinate number of Trump voters died as a result of not protecting themselves against COVID. Kind of a moron weed-out.
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Flagpole wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Honestly, ignore everything I said. Just know one thing ... I am quite confident that Biden and his cronies (including the Dems in Congress) are ruining the country. Everything he has done is bad for the country. I don't have the time or inclination to go into everything but just look at the Stuldent debt "forgiveness" program. They are not forgiving anything. They are taking the debt incurred by largely wealthy people who signed up for loans t attend universities and transferring that debt to lower and middle class people who either never went to college or dutifully paid off their loans. How is it right to take that debt and just pass it on to poor people who never signed up for college loans? NOt one dem here can give me a good reason. That is travesty to pass that debt onto people who never signed up for those loans. The whole Biden presidency is crap like this. they don't care about anyting cept for their green/political agenda.
Well, I can't ignore everything you said. Stupid is as stupid does, and you DID.
I will respond to this though.
1) I am NOT for college student loan debt forgiveness, but not for the reason most people aren't. I don't care that it's not fair to those who paid off their debts (boo hoo...not everything in life is fair). I'm against it because it doesn't help all people who need it and it is a TAD (not fully, but a tad) elitist. Not really a good long-term plan for Democrats. Democrats need to get back to supporting blue collar Americans...not to get their votes...because it is right. I ONLY do things because they are right.
2) The student loan debt thing is such a minor issue...it's an easy issue to attack, but in the grand scheme of things, it's small potatoes.
3) #1 and #2 above said, the whole Biden Presidency is in fact NOT like this at all. First of all, his ONLY job was to beat Trump...and he did that. That is the ONLY reason that the vast majority of us voted for him. We didn't require or expect a single thing more from him. BUT, we have gotten it...more gun control...more help for our veterans (and it's not enough)...expanding of the Affordable Care Act which does a LOT of good the ACA is PART of the reason the unemployment rate could drop so low...people can retire and be able to afford health care before age 65. This adds to our FREEDOM and it is a great thing. Infrastructure, guaranteed lower cost of prescription drugs (at no cost to tax payers), CHIPS and Science Act law which will bring high tech semiconductor chip manufacturing to the US. These are things that will help all Americans.
4) Most of the stuff in #3 above has nothing to do with a "green" agenda, so you're wrong about that.
I believe that stupid people can learn and that they can learn enough to stop being stupid. Start learning.
Some of your arguments have some merit but I would like to address that "Biden won." Trump's election brought the Mueller investigation, the first impeachment, the second impeachment, the Jan. 6 "insurrection" etc., etc. From day 1 of his presidency he was facing an onslaught of unrelenting media attacks on everything Trump. Virtually every Trump story in the NY Times and every other liberal newspaper was negative while just the opposite for Biden. Mainstream media attacked Trump for 5 years with no let-up. The fac that Trump did so well with all that against him is remarkable.
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