"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

Noyankee wrote:

Oh, not to mention darn near everyone dying in IK is full on vaxxed.

Maybe some people pay attention to trends while you addicts just salivate for the next fix, at any and all costs.

Has anyone posted how many people died from covid in the US yesterday? Were 99.9% unvaccinated or was it only 99.5%?

Dumbest thing ever posted on LR. Yeah, the pro vaxxers are the ones making up science. Please enlighten us how EXACTLY you performed the steps in Science? What research did you personally perform? Did you pour over endless pages of vaccine studies and really get into the data? Naw, you parroted what you read on some alt right / anti vax site or what Joe Rogan said.

What do I need do to get my freedoms back? Please enlighten me.

BidenFixedCovid wrote:

Real Disco Gary owns Loser Disco Gary.

0/10 my guy; that post went over like a fart in the wind. But keep grasping at straws and clutching the pearls as you sink deeper into the hole you've dug.

Pandemic of the Unvaccinated: confirmed.

I havent checked in for a few days. Has the pandemic of the vaccinated been unconfirmed or has it been more wailing, name calling, and cherry picking from the anti-vax morons?

Another friend of a friend has died of Covid. In this case, a couple in their mid-60s who my daughter knows both got infected and the husband died. Both otherwise in good health and leading active lives and seeing the world. Both unvaccinated. Anecdotes are not data, but now I'm up to n=3 of unvaccinated people in my broader circle of acquaintance dying.

On another front, the FDA staff didn't voice an opinion one way or the other on the Moderna booster shots. Of course when Walensky will do whatever she wants anyhow, what does it really matter what the review group says.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/fda-staff-dont-take-position-on-moderna-covid-19-booster

colder and wiser wrote:

Another friend of a friend has died of Covid. In this case, a couple in their mid-60s who my daughter knows both got infected and the husband died. Both otherwise in good health and leading active lives and seeing the world. Both unvaccinated. Anecdotes are not data, but now I'm up to n=3 of unvaccinated people in my broader circle of acquaintance dying.

First, people in their mid 60s should be vaccinated. In that demographic, the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the risks of vaccination. How do you know they were not vaccinated? The vaccination rate in that group is about 80%, so odds are they were vaccinated, unless you have first hand knowledge of the contrary. I have known nobody who has died of COVID, but I have known a couple people with late stage cancer that died in the past year or two with COVID. Call me careless, but I have a hard time calling it a COVID death when someone has had stage four cancer for a couple years and dies with COVID (and my mom died of cancer in her mid 60s long before COVID, 9 months after her diagnosis).

joedirtball wrote:

First, people in their mid 60s should be vaccinated. In that demographic, the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the risks of vaccination. How do you know they were not vaccinated? The vaccination rate in that group is about 80%, so odds are they were vaccinated, unless you have first hand knowledge of the contrary. I have known nobody who has died of COVID, but I have known a couple people with late stage cancer that died in the past year or two with COVID. Call me careless, but I have a hard time calling it a COVID death when someone has had stage four cancer for a couple years and dies with COVID (and my mom died of cancer in her mid 60s long before COVID, 9 months after her diagnosis).

It's up to trained doctors to judge if COVID was the underlying cause of death for someone who perished with the virus. ~91% of cases have been judged as such. Ask the person with stage 4 cancer if they wouldn't have minded an extra year or two had COVID not killed them.

Excess deaths say all you need to know about this interminable debate.

I agree, which is why those in high risk groups should be vaccinated. Looking at excess deaths in conjunction with vaccination rates for those demographics demonstrates that the vaccines are not working well against delta in many age groups. Additionally, you completely ignore excess deaths when it comes to those 25 and under.

AP5000 wrote:

Gerbil Jamin wrote:

(Eric Topol?) Might as well link some graphs made by George Soros.

Yes, Eric Topol. One of the most highly respected scientists in the world. I would take his advice instead of making up your own.

His kind make up the belief system of all leftists, yet they don't even know it. Brainwashing of the gullible, confirmed.

joedirtball wrote:

I agree, which is why those in high risk groups should be vaccinated. Looking at excess deaths in conjunction with vaccination rates for those demographics demonstrates that the vaccines are not working well against delta in many age groups. Additionally, you completely ignore excess deaths when it comes to those 25 and under.

This is not true.. places that collect good data on breakthrough deaths and infections (Israel, UK, plenty of places in the US) show outstanding efficacy against deaths! The fact that we are still seeing excess deaths is really tragic considering how well the vaccines work.

Also, I don't understand the repeated base rate errors you casually make. Do you have ANY studies showing a poor VE against death? There are none. The vaccines are protecting very well. That doesn't mean every death will be prevented, but in the US, we have so many unvaccinated people that they are still making up a bulk of the deaths. Surely you are smart enough to see the data and understand it... but just pretend it doesn't exist? Because you're so mad the vaccines work? Embarrassing.

Lack of excess deaths doesn't mean COVID isn't an issue. The causality doesn't go both ways, this is trivial stuff. We expect big changes in lifestyle that alter the death rates of many common killers of young people (accidents, etc). Regardless, compared to the safety profile of the vaccine... COVID is just worse. Even if the bureaucrats in Europe can't do math.

Gerbil Jamin wrote:

His kind make up the belief system of all leftists, yet they don't even know it. Brainwashing of the gullible, confirmed.

despite being a sad, laughable troll: your hubris is top shelf stuff, my guy!

"a little mind cannot attend to great things" - Lydia Maria Child

Disco Gary the Biggest Loser wrote:

Gerbil Jamin wrote:

His kind make up the belief system of all leftists, yet they don't even know it. Brainwashing of the gullible, confirmed.

despite being a sad, laughable troll: your hubris is top shelf stuff, my guy!

"a little mind cannot attend to great things" - Lydia Maria Child

You're one of the gullible I was talking about, monkey spanker.

Harambe wrote:

joedirtball wrote:

I agree, which is why those in high risk groups should be vaccinated.

Because you're so mad the vaccines work? Embarrassing.

LOL

What's embarrassing is that you go as far as saying that someone who has just expressed his support of vaccination is mad that vaccines work.

Even more embarrassing is your multiple online personality disorder. Embarrassing.