Harambe wrote:
Still can't believe the number of people who can see the vaccination data from countries all over the world and think the vaccine isn't the right choice.
Pandemic of the unvaccinated is breaking people's brains.
Vaccinated spreading it like wildfire in Singapore now too. Over 80% vaxxed and spiking. Maybe that has something to do with it.
Oh, not to mention darn near everyone dying in IK is full on vaxxed.
Maybe some people pay attention to trends while you addicts just salivate for the next fix, at any and all costs.
^UK
Noyankee wrote:
Oh, not to mention darn near everyone dying in IK is full on vaxxed.
Maybe some people pay attention to trends while you addicts just salivate for the next fix, at any and all costs.
The vaccination status of cases, inpatients and deaths is not the most appropriate method to assess vaccine effectiveness and there is a high risk of misinterpretation. Vaccine effectiveness has been formally estimated from a number of different sources...
In the context of very high vaccine coverage in the population, even with a highly
effective vaccine, it is expected that a large proportion of cases, hospitalisations and
deaths would occur in vaccinated individuals, simply because a larger proportion of the
population are vaccinated than unvaccinated and no vaccine is 100% effective. This is
especially true because vaccination has been prioritised in individuals who are more
susceptible or more at risk of severe disease. Individuals in risk groups may also be
more at risk of hospitalisation or death due to non-COVID-19 causes, and thus may be
hospitalised or die with COVID-19 rather than because of COVID-19.
From "covid 19 vaccine surveillance report week 37"
troll_69 wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
Oh, not to mention darn near everyone dying in IK is full on vaxxed.
Maybe some people pay attention to trends while you addicts just salivate for the next fix, at any and all costs.
The vaccination status of cases, inpatients and deaths is not the most appropriate method to assess vaccine effectiveness and there is a high risk of misinterpretation. Vaccine effectiveness has been formally estimated from a number of different sources...
In the context of very high vaccine coverage in the population, even with a highly
effective vaccine, it is expected that a large proportion of cases, hospitalisations and
deaths would occur in vaccinated individuals, simply because a larger proportion of the
population are vaccinated than unvaccinated and no vaccine is 100% effective. This is
especially true because vaccination has been prioritised in individuals who are more
susceptible or more at risk of severe disease. Individuals in risk groups may also be
more at risk of hospitalisation or death due to non-COVID-19 causes, and thus may be
hospitalised or die with COVID-19 rather than because of COVID-19.
From "covid 19 vaccine surveillance report week 37"
I’d say it doesn’t take much education beyond middle school to realize that trying to compare this “vaccine” to historical ones is beyond a stretch of the imagination. This current version isn’t even close to 100% effective, which is why we need to protect our children from the animals trying to stick them without choice
Noyankee wrote:
I’d say it doesn’t take much education beyond middle school to realize that trying to compare this “vaccine” to historical ones is beyond a stretch of the imagination. This current version isn’t even close to 100% effective, which is why we need to protect our children from the animals trying to stick them without choice
Agreed.
Noyankee wrote:
I can’t believe this thread is still going after DOD confirmed most hospitalized are vaccinated. Phizer vax makes you 300% more likely to catch it and spread it.
Source? I just want to shove that up people's ....if it is real data.
2600 bro wrote:
The official data from England show a 3X higher hospitalization rate for 90+ year old unvaccinated people and a 10X-20X higher rate for unvaccinated people under 90.
For death it’s 5-20X higher across all age groups.
Remember over 95% of people older than 65 are vaccinated in the UK.
We knew the anti vaxxers couldn’t do math but it’s surprising they cannot even read.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1023849/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_40.pdf
Thanks for proving the obvious. No do the 20-30 year old age bracket? Pretty please??? You are a con man.
2600 bro wrote:
Conservative Right-Winger wrote:
That's total BS and you know it! How in the F can immunity from a vaccine start diminishing after 2 months but yet provide all this wonderful protection from hospitalization & death? It doesn't work that way with the human immune system. This is a big effing cover-up orchestrated by the vaxx czar Fauci & Big Pharma (who you probably work for).
It's all about the agenda the vaxx czar has in vaxxing up every American no matter what! Let rocker & fellow right winger Ted Nugent give it to straight. Here's a 72 yr old that survived Delta without needing hospitalization. Lol. According to the Leftist & pharma-funded MSM, he should have been dead from the end-of-the-world, apocalyptic Delta variant that is a threat to the existence of mankind. 😆
I know you have no interest in actually learning and are just a troll. But what you described it's absolutely how the immune system works. For a virus that replicates as fast as COVID-19, protection against initial infection is mediated mainly by circulating, existing antibodies and mucousal IgA antibodies. These are only maintained at a high level for a short(ish) period after challenge (infection or vaccination).
Protection against severe disease is granted by memory B and T cell response that 1) generate new antibodies rapidly upon challenge 2) kill and clear infected cells. These take a few days or a week to really get going (T cells can expand 1,000,000X from a single cell over the course of a week!). The secondary response is sufficient to clear the virus and prevent it from causing severe disease. AND these memory cells persist for YEARS or even your whole life. This is how vaccination can remain so durable.
For viruses that replicate initially much slower or have looong incubation times like all the vaccines you got as a child, you don't need any circulating antibodies to stave off detectable infection, the memory response are more than sufficient and thus regular boosters are not required.
This is all mostly BS. You could just blow your nose and clear most of the virus before massive infection sets in. This should not be a concern for young people. You are becoming a dangerous scare monger again and you are mostly FOS.
Lead Foil Hat XXXX wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
I can’t believe this thread is still going after DOD confirmed most hospitalized are vaccinated. Phizer vax makes you 300% more likely to catch it and spread it.
Source? I just want to shove that up people's ....if it is real data.
It is real data. I’ll find it again. I thought it was obvious
https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-10-05-pfizer-vaccine-increases-chance-of-getting-covid.html#Noyankee wrote:
Lead Foil Hat XXXX wrote:
Source? I just want to shove that up people's ....if it is real data.
It is real data. I’ll find it again. I thought it was obvious
troll_69 wrote:
2600 bro wrote:
I know you have no interest in actually learning and are just a troll. But what you described it's absolutely how the immune system works. For a virus that replicates as fast as COVID-19, protection against initial infection is mediated mainly by circulating, existing antibodies and mucousal IgA antibodies. These are only maintained at a high level for a short(ish) period after challenge (infection or vaccination).
Protection against severe disease is granted by memory B and T cell response that 1) generate new antibodies rapidly upon challenge 2) kill and clear infected cells. These take a few days or a week to really get going (T cells can expand 1,000,000X from a single cell over the course of a week!). The secondary response is sufficient to clear the virus and prevent it from causing severe disease. AND these memory cells persist for YEARS or even your whole life. This is how vaccination can remain so durable.
For viruses that replicate initially much slower or have looong incubation times like all the vaccines you got as a child, you don't need any circulating antibodies to stave off detectable infection, the memory response are more than sufficient and thus regular boosters are not required.
What an informative, well-written, lucid post. Too bad it's an utter waste of time; you're on Letsrun, remember? lol
Well written? Lucid? No, it was just the drivel of a narrow minded and naive child who says the same things day after day with little evidence other than his older previous posts. It is tiring trope from a tiring individual who people in the real world avoid because he won't ever stop arguing until you give up. At best, it is just severe delusional mental illness.
Bottom line is that this supposed vaccine does not pass the common sense test. If it really worked as a vaccine then nobody would care, let alone force others to get it. It doesn’t really work that well and everyone in the thread understands that. And that is why we protect our children in Florida.
Lead Foil Hat XXXX wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
I’d say it doesn’t take much education beyond middle school to realize that trying to compare this “vaccine” to historical ones is beyond a stretch of the imagination. This current version isn’t even close to 100% effective, which is why we need to protect our children from the animals trying to stick them without choice
Agreed.
I will NEVER comply. My blood is pure & unvaxxed.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBYQEjpWYAE5-ud?format=jpg&name=medium"Natural News"?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Natural News is owned by Mike Adams, who owns numerous other fake and or controversial websites.
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In general, politically, all stories favor the right and promote pseudoscience such as chemtrails, the Sandy Hook shooting being a false flag: Sandy Hook: mind-control flicker effect. Lastly, this source denies the consensus on climate change without evidence as seen here: Climate change cultists are now taking over your local weather forecast.
Failed Fact Checks
A factual search reveals that Natural News has failed too many fact checks to list here.
Overall, we rate Natural News a Questionable source based on the promotion of quackery level pseudoscience and conspiracy theories, as well as extreme right-wing bias. This is one of the most discredited sources on the internet.
Ivyguy wrote:
"Natural News"?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Natural News is owned by Mike Adams, who owns numerous other fake and or controversial websites.
. . .
Analysis / Bias
In review, Mike Adams is known as the Health Ranger according to Rationalwiki. However, they point out dozens of cases where his claims are false. Besides promoting pseudoscience, Natural News is an extreme right-wing biased source that frequently promotes Donald Trump’s propaganda . . . .
In general, politically, all stories favor the right and promote pseudoscience such as chemtrails, the Sandy Hook shooting being a false flag: Sandy Hook: mind-control flicker effect. Lastly, this source denies the consensus on climate change without evidence as seen here: Climate change cultists are now taking over your local weather forecast.
Failed Fact Checks
A factual search reveals that Natural News has failed too many fact checks to list here.
Overall, we rate Natural News a Questionable source based on the promotion of quackery level pseudoscience and conspiracy theories, as well as extreme right-wing bias. This is one of the most discredited sources on the internet.
So does the Phizer study not exist because CNN never reported it? Or are you just taking from the crazies playbook and laughing when you cannot come up with a valid rebuttal? I do not believe Natural News conducted the study, am I wrong?
Good morning gang. Missed ya this weekend. I was out and about, masked and vaccinated. Look forward to when I don't need to wear a mask indoors, like when those mandates are implemented. Mandate away:
https://katiecouric.com/covid-19/vaccine-mandates/
https://www.modbee.com/news/coronavirus/article254860957.html
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