agip wrote:
we are not in a recession.
inflation will drop because of slower economic growth than last year's gangbuster 6%,
Lol at the understatement. It's not just "slower than 6% growth" it's "negative growth" or "contraction"
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Academic Discussion wrote:
Former Never Trumper wrote:
Thank you for the copypasta showing that she didn't "use bleach", comrade.
And you're okay with her wiping the server she was supposed to turn over with BleachBit?
this is complicated and not great for HRC.
First off, HRC had every single right in the world to delete her personal emails off that server. That's what she was asked to do. So she did it. Those were the 'missing' emails.
Then an IT guy was asked to wipe the server. He forgot. He eventually remembered to do it....but oy he did it after the government asked for it.
That is embarrassing and regrettable.
But nothing like the criminal behavior trump was caught doing. He was caught red handed and then refused to cooperate - hiding and stalling.
Wikipedia:
In 2014, months prior to public knowledge of the server's existence, Clinton chief of staff Cheryl Mills and two attorneys worked to identify work-related emails on the server to be archived and preserved for the State Department. Upon completion of this task in December 2014, Mills instructed Clinton's computer services provider, Platte River Networks (PRN), to change the server's retention period to 60 days, allowing 31,830 older personal emails to be automatically deleted from the server, as Clinton had decided she no longer needed them. However, the PRN technician assigned for this task failed to carry it out at that time.[100]
After the existence of the server became publicly known on March 2, 2015,[43] the Select Committee on Benghazi issued a subpoena for Benghazi-related emails two days later. Mills sent an email to PRN on March 9 mentioning the committee's retention request.[100] The PRN technician then had what he described to the FBI as an "oh sh/t moment," realizing he had not set the personal emails to be deleted as instructed months earlier. The technician then erased the emails using a free utility, BleachBit, sometime between March 25 and 31.[101] Bloomberg News reported in September 2015 that the FBI had recovered some of the deleted emails.[102]
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Academic Discussion wrote:
Former Never Trumper wrote:
Thank you for the copypasta showing that she didn't "use bleach", comrade.
And you're okay with her wiping the server she was supposed to turn over with BleachBit?
Not stated nor implied. Classic straw man.
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Hardloper wrote:
agip wrote:
we are not in a recession.
inflation will drop because of slower economic growth than last year's gangbuster 6%,
Lol at the understatement. It's not just "slower than 6% growth" it's "negative growth" or "contraction"
seriously, do you really believe the economy is smaller today than on 1/1/22? I don't.
From what I read most economists don't believe that GDP number - it's just COVID covfefe with econ numbers not making any sense.
GDI shows growth, GDP shows contraction. Makes no sense.
Personally I think a lot of the problem is that high inflation is making any 'real' numbers unreliable.
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SouthernmostIllini wrote:
nonequals wrote:
Among other things, you've come to the stupendously stupid conclusion that Fauci was more of a problem than Trump. That alone clearly labels you as 100% unworthy of debate. Do I have any interest in weighing the relative quality of Fauci's actions with you? Nope. Will history find Trump's response to be horrendous? Yep. Will it find Fauci's horrendous? Nope. You're a moran, buddy. Stop kidding yourself that you're more than that.
Text book example of an ad hominem attack.
INCORRECT!
nonequals clearly stated the reasons that you have been identified as a moran. His argument is one based upon obvious facts:
1) Fauci's actions were reasonable and helpful, while imperfect
2) Trump's actions were clearly moronic, dishonest and ultimately deadly for many thousands
3) You side with Trump over Fauci
Conclusion: You are indeed a moran.
Note that the conclusion follows from the facts and basic logic. It is not the case that the argument being made by nonequals is based on an attack on your character (as would be the case with an ad hominem attack). Instead, labeling you as a moran is the unavoidable conclusion of following the facts.
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Now, in the future, try to understand what an ad hominem attack actually is. Master that, and you will have taken one small step away from being an absolute moran.
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Flagpole wrote:
Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:
Hillary was asked to turn over her server and her emails. The instead destroyed 30,000 emails and used bleach and attempted to crack her server. What Trump did is NOTHING what Hillary did. We are not Trumpers. We are American law-abiding citizens
1) If you are going to scream from the mountain top that Mueller found no sufficient evidence to charge Trump with Conspiracy, then you need to have the same energy with regard to Hillary, because that was the same determination.
2) Sorry, but what Trump has done is MUCH worse. It was determined that Hillary had a handful of classified documents on her private server and that they were classified as such after they were there. Now, she should not have used a private server, so I'm not defending that, but she didn't do what Trump has done. Trump STOLE documents including the most sensitive ones our government classifies. He was asked to return them and only returned some. He and his lawyers then said he returned it all. He then ignored TWO subpoenas. He CONCEALED, and some reports are saying DESTROYED, documents...not e-mails...actually original hard copy documents. Hillary didn't do that. There is still some concern that not all of the documents have been returned, that some may have been moved to other locations or destroyed.
You are out of your mind to think anyone in our federal government has done anything even remotely similar to this. And, yes, you are a Trumper and while I do not know if you abide by the law or not, you do NOT support the rule of law to continue to stick your nose up Trump's ass. You are a raging idiot.
Some angry leftists out there. It looks like you’re not even reading what was posted. I’m a contractor for the Navy…receiving my government emails on a non government server is a big no. Doesn’t matter the classification. And there’s no issue with when documents are classified if they’re on the correct server. And there’s really no difference between emails with classified documents and hard copies of classified documents.
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I never visit this thread.
I expect to see some folks quite mad that Biden is scoring win after win - and lots of "no the economy sucks... pleaseeee let the economy suck!!!"
But wow this has exceeded expectations. You guys are MAD MAD.
Go for a run!
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Flagpole wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
What a stupid comment. Go look up has prices nationally yourself, you moron.
*gas prices
Why does every one or your posts , and I do mean EVERY ONE, have to include an insult, or a name-calling or a cursing to whose ever post you are responding to? If your retort or rebuttal carried any weight then all the insults, or cursings or anything else would be not necessary because your response would put the original poster in his or her place. Instead your arguments are impotent and do nothing but make you look like a little weakling. Do better, Flagpole. You have a journalism degree. John Boy would never need to insult You both have Journalism degrees. Think like John Boy. Use your noggin. come up with something clever and keep the rage hidden. You don't need that rage. Use your wits!
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Real Obvi wrote:
SouthernmostIllini wrote:
Text book example of an ad hominem attack.
INCORRECT!
nonequals clearly stated the reasons that you have been identified as a moran. His argument is one based upon obvious facts:
1) Fauci's actions were reasonable and helpful, while imperfect
2) Trump's actions were clearly moronic, dishonest and ultimately deadly for many thousands
3) You side with Trump over Fauci
Conclusion: You are indeed a moran.
Note that the conclusion follows from the facts and basic logic. It is not the case that the argument being made by nonequals is based on an attack on your character (as would be the case with an ad hominem attack). Instead, labeling you as a moran is the unavoidable conclusion of following the facts.
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Now, in the future, try to understand what an ad hominem attack actually is. Master that, and you will have taken one small step away from being an absolute moran.
LOL. Clearly and without examples or explanations? Or just because you both say so? Some angry and ignorant leftists out there.
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Don't listen to Baghdad agip.
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Real Obvi wrote:
SouthernmostIllini wrote:
Text book example of an ad hominem attack.
INCORRECT!
nonequals clearly stated the reasons that you have been identified as a moran. His argument is one based upon obvious facts:
1) Fauci's actions were reasonable and helpful, while imperfect
2) Trump's actions were clearly moronic, dishonest and ultimately deadly for many thousands
3) You side with Trump over Fauci
Conclusion: You are indeed a moran.
Note that the conclusion follows from the facts and basic logic. It is not the case that the argument being made by nonequals is based on an attack on your character (as would be the case with an ad hominem attack). Instead, labeling you as a moran is the unavoidable conclusion of following the facts.
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Now, in the future, try to understand what an ad hominem attack actually is. Master that, and you will have taken one small step away from being an absolute moran.
I think I might be the only person that’s provided an actual example here. The one where Fauci refused to address the effects of a prior infection on immunity in mid 2021. And after millions of people had already recovered from covid. Too funny!
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agip wrote:
SouthernmostIllini wrote:
Inflation will drop because we’re in a recession, technically and when the NBER announces it…officially. Gas prices have dropped, in part, because demand has dropped from 12M bpd to less than 10M bpd. The housing market, sales and building/permitting, are both tanking. the evidence is clear…it’s a crap economy.
we are not in a recession.
inflation will drop because of slower economic growth than last year's gangbuster 6%, the world figuring out how to make supply chains function after COVID, and households spending down most of the money they saved during COVID.
A crap economy does not have 3.5% unemployment, ever-higher corporate profits and companies investing in the future. Certainly a recession looks nothing like that.
1) I accept ONLY the definition of two consecutive quarters of negative gdp growth as whether we're in a recession or not. By that definition (which IS the best one), we are in one. It's a shallow one that will end with the next quarter report, but we are in one, nonetheless.
2) The NBER can suck it. Its determination isn't good for anything other than academic discussion well after the recession. Yawn.
3) Being in a "recession" isn't all that bad necessarily, ESPECIALLY in this one, because the reason we are in one is due to abnormally high growth a year ago as we came out of the raging part of the pandemic.
4) You are correct that we are NOT in a crap economy and for the reason you stated...record low unemployment doesn't occur during a crap economy.
5) The Fed has said that the unemployment rate is TOO LOW. Raising rates is its way of trying to get the unemployment rate and inflation back into balance.
Not sure if I've ever expressed this correct sentiment, but Trumpers are outrageously stupid.
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agip wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
Lol at the understatement. It's not just "slower than 6% growth" it's "negative growth" or "contraction"
seriously, do you really believe the economy is smaller today than on 1/1/22? I don't.
From what I read most economists don't believe that GDP number - it's just COVID covfefe with econ numbers not making any sense.
GDI shows growth, GDP shows contraction. Makes no sense.
Personally I think a lot of the problem is that high inflation is making any 'real' numbers unreliable.
Either or both of those numbers could be wrong in either direction. You can't just assume the one you like better is the more accurate one. But apparently the absolute size of the labor force peaked in March 2022 and has been shrinking since then so a contraction wouldn't surprise me.
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SouthernmostIllini wrote:
Real Obvi wrote:
INCORRECT!
nonequals clearly stated the reasons that you have been identified as a moran. His argument is one based upon obvious facts:
1) Fauci's actions were reasonable and helpful, while imperfect
2) Trump's actions were clearly moronic, dishonest and ultimately deadly for many thousands
3) You side with Trump over Fauci
Conclusion: You are indeed a moran.
Note that the conclusion follows from the facts and basic logic. It is not the case that the argument being made by nonequals is based on an attack on your character (as would be the case with an ad hominem attack). Instead, labeling you as a moran is the unavoidable conclusion of following the facts.
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Now, in the future, try to understand what an ad hominem attack actually is. Master that, and you will have taken one small step away from being an absolute moran.
LOL. Clearly and without examples or explanations? Or just because you both say so? Some angry and ignorant leftists out there.
I am quite certain that examples and explanations have been provided ad nauseam on this thread. Indeed, nonequals even alluded to this fact.
You too would be quite certain of this fact if you were not a moran.
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Real Obvi wrote:
SouthernmostIllini wrote:
Text book example of an ad hominem attack.
INCORRECT!
nonequals clearly stated the reasons that you have been identified as a moran. His argument is one based upon obvious facts:
1) Fauci's actions were reasonable and helpful, while imperfect
2) Trump's actions were clearly moronic, dishonest and ultimately deadly for many thousands
3) You side with Trump over Fauci
Conclusion: You are indeed a moran.
Note that the conclusion follows from the facts and basic logic. It is not the case that the argument being made by nonequals is based on an attack on your character (as would be the case with an ad hominem attack). Instead, labeling you as a moran is the unavoidable conclusion of following the facts.
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Now, in the future, try to understand what an ad hominem attack actually is. Master that, and you will have taken one small step away from being an absolute moran.
Liberals aren’t capable of independent thought. They only know what’s in the talking points they’re fed. So when faced with cognitive dissonance they react by trying to censor. Or as a last resort they lash out.
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Real Obvi wrote:
SouthernmostIllini wrote:
LOL. Clearly and without examples or explanations? Or just because you both say so? Some angry and ignorant leftists out there.
I am quite certain that examples and explanations have been provided ad nauseam on this thread. Indeed, nonequals even alluded to this fact.
You too would be quite certain of this fact if you were not a moran.
I KNOW I provided some examples to the contrary. Who be the moran?
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SouthernmostIllini wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
1) If you are going to scream from the mountain top that Mueller found no sufficient evidence to charge Trump with Conspiracy, then you need to have the same energy with regard to Hillary, because that was the same determination.
2) Sorry, but what Trump has done is MUCH worse. It was determined that Hillary had a handful of classified documents on her private server and that they were classified as such after they were there. Now, she should not have used a private server, so I'm not defending that, but she didn't do what Trump has done. Trump STOLE documents including the most sensitive ones our government classifies. He was asked to return them and only returned some. He and his lawyers then said he returned it all. He then ignored TWO subpoenas. He CONCEALED, and some reports are saying DESTROYED, documents...not e-mails...actually original hard copy documents. Hillary didn't do that. There is still some concern that not all of the documents have been returned, that some may have been moved to other locations or destroyed.
You are out of your mind to think anyone in our federal government has done anything even remotely similar to this. And, yes, you are a Trumper and while I do not know if you abide by the law or not, you do NOT support the rule of law to continue to stick your nose up Trump's ass. You are a raging idiot.
Some angry leftists out there. It looks like you’re not even reading what was posted. I’m a contractor for the Navy…receiving my government emails on a non government server is a big no. Doesn’t matter the classification. And there’s no issue with when documents are classified if they’re on the correct server. And there’s really no difference between emails with classified documents and hard copies of classified documents.
I'm fully aware. Trump and his idiot children (well, Ivanka and Jared) used unsecure private phones to conduct official business. The matter of classified material or not just goes to the severity of the problem. I have already admonished Hillary for doing what she did, but that PALES in comparison to what Trump has done...it's not even close. Trump STOLE documents that he KNEW were classified and top secret, and he CONCEALED them from those who came to get them, and he IGNORED two separate subpoenas to return them, told associates they were HIS, and went through all the boxes HIMSELF. He's a criminal. He is guilty of egregious crimes. You are a fool at most and just disingenuous at worst to defend him.
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Flagpole wrote:
SouthernmostIllini wrote:
Some angry leftists out there. It looks like you’re not even reading what was posted. I’m a contractor for the Navy…receiving my government emails on a non government server is a big no. Doesn’t matter the classification. And there’s no issue with when documents are classified if they’re on the correct server. And there’s really no difference between emails with classified documents and hard copies of classified documents.
I'm fully aware. Trump and his idiot children (well, Ivanka and Jared) used unsecure private phones to conduct official business. The matter of classified material or not just goes to the severity of the problem. I have already admonished Hillary for doing what she did, but that PALES in comparison to what Trump has done...it's not even close. Trump STOLE documents that he KNEW were classified and top secret, and he CONCEALED them from those who came to get them, and he IGNORED two separate subpoenas to return them, told associates they were HIS, and went through all the boxes HIMSELF. He's a criminal. He is guilty of egregious crimes. You are a fool at most and just disingenuous at worst to defend him.
* "worst" should have been "best"
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And speaking of Baghdad, Americans are being evacuated from the US Embassy. A senile & weak Biden results in this action.
Why does the WH deny this?
Lets go Brandon!
#FJB
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