Rand Paul is a douchebag.
I hate to say it my anti-vaxx comrades, but those vaccine mandates are here to stay. Forever and ever. Since you won't do what you should do to help your fellow Americans, the decisions will be made for you:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/colorado-woman-wont-vaccinated-denied-225233203.html
https://www.crn.com/news/cloud/ibm-red-hat-issue-new-covid-19-vaccine-mandates
Conservative Right-Winger wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Hey DanM can you read a full sentence?
Two new studies confirm that the immunity offered by two doses of Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine drops off after about two months, although protection against severe disease, hospitalization and death holds strong.
- Sounds great. So, best case and most likely scenario I never get COVID after my Pfizer shot. Worst case scenario, I get a mild case of COVID with my body primed to fight major symptoms thanks to the vaccine and now have both natural immunity and vaccine immunity.
That's total BS and you know it! How in the F can immunity from a vaccine start diminishing after 2 months but yet provide all this wonderful protection from hospitalization & death? It doesn't work that way with the human immune system.
Now you're just being dumb.
There are countless datasets posted in this thread showing outstanding protecting against severe disease from many different states and countries.
Unless you're alleging a massive conspiracy all around the world (I think you are), you have no ground to stand on.
Also it literally does work this way with the immune system. There's a difference between circulating antibodies and memory immune cells.
Better to keep your mouth closed and appear a fool than open it and remove all doubt... or something like that ;)
Conservative Right-Winger wrote:
2600 bro wrote:
I know you have no interest in actually learning and are just a troll. But what you described it's absolutely how the immune system works. For a virus that replicates as fast as COVID-19, protection against initial infection is mediated mainly by circulating, existing antibodies and mucousal IgA antibodies. These are only maintained at a high level for a short(ish) period after challenge (infection or vaccination).
Protection against severe disease is granted by memory B and T cell response that 1) generate new antibodies rapidly upon challenge 2) kill and clear infected cells. These take a few days or a week to really get going (T cells can expand 1,000,000X from a single cell over the course of a week!). The secondary response is sufficient to clear the virus and prevent it from causing severe disease. AND these memory cells persist for YEARS or even your whole life. This is how vaccination can remain so durable.
For viruses that replicate initially much slower or have looong incubation times like all the vaccines you got as a child, you don't need any circulating antibodies to stave off detectable infection, the memory response are more than sufficient and thus regular boosters are not required.
WTF....2600 kiddo, do you and that other shill, Harambe, split 12 hr shifts here? Seriously, if you're not being paid to push the vaccines on forums, then you must live a sad, socially inept life if all you do is post all day & all night on LRC. Lol. I just got back from a brutal 2 hr bodybuilding workout with a right winger buddy of mine. That's after a 4 mile run this morning with lady friend of mine who's hard core conservative right & a pro-choice advocate. So, I'm ready to hit the hay & makes this post quick.
Your immunological explanation also applies to natural immunity from prior infection.
Holy sh-t the dude doubled down on his ignorance.
You can be totally butthurt mad about the vax and STILL admit it works excellently against severe disease. There's no requirement to go full tinfoil hat "they are faking numbers all over the world," yet every antivaxxer seems to do this. Says something about their psyche. There's no middle ground. It's full tilt contrarianism, facts be damned.
Also bumping 2600s excellent overview of immune protection quoted here. Even if it flies straight over the head of the antivaxxers...
Harambe wrote:
Also bumping 2600s excellent overview of immune protection quoted here.
^^
Narcissism and schizophrenia on display, ladies and gentlemen.
That's total BS and you know it! How in the F can immunity from a vaccine start diminishing after 2 months but yet provide all this wonderful protection from hospitalization & death?
It cannot. It’s not a vaccine, only in name only. Let’s call it what it still is, an experiment.
Once the FDA approves it we can discuss that future. At present, it is an experiment.
Truth matters.
ImpaIa31 wrote:
Harambe wrote:
Also bumping 2600s excellent overview of immune protection quoted here.
^^
Narcissism and schizophrenia on display, ladies and gentlemen.
I appreciate that you got the vaccine. Thanks for doing your part.
Noyankee wrote:
That's total BS and you know it! How in the F can immunity from a vaccine start diminishing after 2 months but yet provide all this wonderful protection from hospitalization & death?
This is has been explained countless times in quite clear terms. The immune system is complicated. 2600 did a good explainer just a few posts before this.
If you're not willing to learn and dead-set on just madposting ignorance, there's not much we can do for you. Lower-primate level of critical thinking on display.
Technically, in case Hip doesn’t mind some clarity, hardly anybody is currently vaccinated, even according to their own cult leader, Evil Fauci. He claims it now takes 2 shots and a boost of that new drug.
Nobody has that really. So this is all just lip service, the entire thread.
Harambe wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
That's total BS and you know it! How in the F can immunity from a vaccine start diminishing after 2 months but yet provide all this wonderful protection from hospitalization & death?
This is has been explained countless times in quite clear terms. The immune system is complicated. 2600 did a good explainer just a few posts before this.
If you're not willing to learn and dead-set on just madposting ignorance, there's not much we can do for you. Lower-primate level of critical thinking on display.
Except those aren’t my words. These are. You are rooted deep in mythology. It’s fascinating really to read some of the crap you come up with. I enjoy it. You’re own little novel of fiction.
I gotta think, if we could lock you and Stephen King in a room together that the World would be dished quite a treat.
Harambe wrote:
If you're not willing to learn and dead-set on just madposting ignorance, there's not much we can do for you. Lower-primate level of critical thinking on display.
Not really. *Trolling* on display.
Like other trolls (TU, DG, SV, etc.), NY will repost stuff that's already been debunked multiple times--because the post (s/he hopes) will prompt responses. Responses are what trolls live for, and they're willing to *act* dumb to get them.
Harambe wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
That's total BS and you know it! How in the F can immunity from a vaccine start diminishing after 2 months but yet provide all this wonderful protection from hospitalization & death?
This is has been explained countless times in quite clear terms. The immune system is complicated. 2600 did a good explainer just a few posts before this.
If you're not willing to learn and dead-set on just madposting ignorance, there's not much we can do for you. Lower-primate level of critical thinking on display.
There is no explanation to this. These “vaccines” (for sake of argument) work in different ways. You are perpetuating a myth with that math wizard Bro backing you up with data spin.
You guys still cannot answer basic questions. Like, Why were you told only 1 shot needed for full vaccine by the very same doctors that now have you up to 2 and 3?
Do they not understand the science they sell?
formerly present wrote:
Harambe wrote:
If you're not willing to learn and dead-set on just madposting ignorance, there's not much we can do for you. Lower-primate level of critical thinking on display.
Not really. *Trolling* on display.
Like other trolls (TU, DG, SV, etc.), NY will repost stuff that's already been debunked multiple times--because the post (s/he hopes) will prompt responses. Responses are what trolls live for, and they're willing to *act* dumb to get them.
Good point. No need to acknowledge them in the future.
I just find it funny that people will claim that the most obvious things are false. Who do they think they are fooling? Aggressive ignorance is fun to watch.
^youre way of not answering a basic question is to call me a troll, but I am only a truth seeker.
If your doctors are now claiming it’s “evolving” and “changing”, then they were not certain to begin with.
If they are still not certain, which is evidenced by now arguing over how many boosters are needed,
Then why would you advocate forcing this fluid into somebody else’s little child who does not want it, not need it? Yes
The Clown Show wrote:
Poor Kyrie. Standing up for his rights to remain unvaccinated. Unfortunately he won't get paid. Shucks.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32345365/sources-brooklyn-nets-unclear-kyrie-irving-vaccine-intentions-preparing-possibility-miss-home-games-practicesWiggins caved though. His reason's for not wanting it have certainly changed overtime. Initially he was seeking a religious exemption. Now he's saying he was reluctant because he had a bad reaction of pain meds a few years back.
https://www.startribune.com/andrew-wiggins-covid-vaccine-or-not-play-nba/600103833/More and more coming.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/new-york-elections-government/ny-hochul-covid-vaccines-mandates-could-increase-20211005-emassqe2jzamvinctyfcfyrnh4-story.html
Jokes on you again clown. Salary isn’t his only way of getting paid. Just ordered his jersey today
Singapore. 82% "fully vaccinated".
The Clown Show wrote:
Since you won't do what you should do to help your fellow Americans, the decisions will be made for you:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/colorado-woman-wont-vaccinated-denied-225233203.html
Thanks for this link--actually reading it adds context: Transplant recipients are particularly susceptible to Covid-19 because of the immune-suppressing drugs they take to avoid rejection of the transplanted organ, so they need to establish immunity before the transplant procedure takes place.
What I don't understand is why the woman was getting a transplant in the first place. Where was her faith? Why not just pray, rather than rely on "doctors" and "hospitals" and "surgery" and "medication"?
This whole thread was created because of Harambe's frustration with the dating scene.
When you bang 80+ year old fat women exclusively, it's not surprising that he's angry about Covid taking them off the market permanently.
Harambe/2600broReverseCowgirl wrote:
This whole thread was created because of Harambe's frustration with the dating scene.
When you bang 80+ year old fat women exclusively, it's not surprising that he's angry about Covid taking them off the market permanently.
Hahaha I actually laughed at his one. The angry gorilla imagery w.r.t. GILFs is a grade A humor. Honestly, I come here daily for your posts.
You’re much better at this kinda stuff than actual discussion - you should put the creativity to work! But in the mean time. Keep it up! The levity is a nice break.
Noyankee wrote:
Let’s call it what it still is, an experiment.
Once the FDA approves it we can discuss that future. At present, it is an experiment.
Truth matters.
Oh man, you're never going to believe this. Have I got some great news for you!
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-approves-first-covid-19-vaccineIt's from a couple months ago, but I guess you were in a coma or meditating in a cloister or something, But basically, the FDA has approved the vaccine! We're all good to go. Now that you're awake/back from the cloister, just head to your nearest vaccination site for your first dose. It's basically a miracle how effective this vaccine is, and I'm so glad the FDA has now approved it, just like you were waiting for!
Because I was getting kind of worried. It seems like this might be a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Can anyone confirm this?
Kerr only lost to Hocker because Jakob cut Kerr off in the final 100m...
JAKOB INTERVIEW : He said he felt so good that he misjudged his own opening
Slow Race - Jakob gets outkicked; Fast Race - Jakob gets outkicked
Why I don’t really care about the Mens 1500m Results despite the top 3 doing really well