"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

There was one bed coming available in the intensive care unit in Alaska’s largest hospital.

It was the middle of the night, and the hospital, Providence Alaska Medical Center in Anchorage, had been hit with a deluge of coronavirus patients. Doctors now had a choice to make: Several more patients at the hospital, most of them with Covid-19, were in line to take that last I.C.U. spot. But there was also someone from one of the state’s isolated rural communities who needed to be flown in for emergency surgery.

Who should get the final bed?

Dr. ​​Steven Floerchinger gathered with his colleagues for an agonizing discussion. They had a better chance of saving one of the patients in the emergency room, they determined. The other person would have to wait.

That patient died.

. . .

Dr. Anne Zink is Alaska’s chief medical officer, helping lead the state’s pandemic response, but she also works as a physician in the emergency room at Mat-Su Regional Medical Center, northeast of Anchorage — a region with some of the state’s lowest vaccination rates and highest hospitalization rates.

Dr. Zink said she had been examining patients in the waiting room and caring for them in hallways. One day, with not even stretchers available, she found herself sitting on the floor to stitch a foot laceration.

“Our goal has always been to avoid having systems overwhelmed,” Dr. Zink said. “And right now we have systems overwhelmed.”

Governor Dunleavy has avoided ordering a statewide mask mandate or other restrictions during the latest surge, saying such requirements should be decided locally in a vast state where some communities have had few or no cases. A draft statewide mask mandate had been drawn up early in the pandemic, Dr. Zink said, but it was never put into place.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/03/us/coronavirus-crisis-alaska.html

Doctors rationing care. These are the *real* death panels--and the doctors (my cousin is an MD in AK) hate having to do it.

Here's a NYT piece intended for middle schoolers:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/23/learning/whats-going-on-in-this-graph-sept-29-2021.html

Hopefully this has finally been dumbed down enough for the denier-fearmongers on here :)

Get out of here with your evidence and facts; you could seriously hurt an antivaxxer with that stuff!

Harambe wrote:

Here's a NYT piece intended for middle schoolers:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/23/learning/whats-going-on-in-this-graph-sept-29-2021.html

Hopefully this has finally been dumbed down enough for the denier-fearmongers on here :)

Perhaps your first wrong post on the thread. I'm disappointed, Harambe

troll_69 wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Here's a NYT piece intended for middle schoolers:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/23/learning/whats-going-on-in-this-graph-sept-29-2021.html

Hopefully this has finally been dumbed down enough for the denier-fearmongers on here :)

Perhaps your first wrong post on the thread. I'm disappointed, Harambe

The crickets suggest that you are right. I was too optimistic about their intelligence...

Harambe wrote:

The crickets suggest that you are right. I was too optimistic about their intelligence...

Pandemic of the Unvaccinated: Confirmed.

The truth continues to accumulate:

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-10-07/studies-show-power-of-pfizer-vaccine-starts-to-wane-after-two-months

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/finland-pauses-use-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-young-men-2021-10-07/

Hey DanM can you read a full sentence?

Two new studies confirm that the immunity offered by two doses of Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine drops off after about two months, although protection against severe disease, hospitalization and death holds strong.

- Sounds great. So, best case and most likely scenario I never get COVID after my Pfizer shot. Worst case scenario, I get a mild case of COVID with my body primed to fight major symptoms thanks to the vaccine and now have both natural immunity and vaccine immunity.

Pandemic of the unvaccinated rages on

Awesome data from this week in Israel.

The unvaccinated are still 2.5-5X more likely to get infected and 10-20X more likely to end up with a severe case.

With a booster these numbers rise to 20X+ to not get infected and 50X+ to not get severe disease.

Vaccines work. Pandemic of the unvaccinated.

https://twitter.com/jsm2334/status/1446109024357781510?s=21

2600 bro wrote:

Awesome data from this week in Israel.

The unvaccinated are still 2.5-5X more likely to get infected and 10-20X more likely to end up with a severe case.

With a booster these numbers rise to 20X+ to not get infected and 50X+ to not get severe disease.

Vaccines work. Pandemic of the unvaccinated.

https://twitter.com/jsm2334/status/1446109024357781510?s=21

Lame, feeble, insipid. Try again.

Prof Jeffrey S Morris

@jsm2334

·

7h

Of course these simple VE estimates have limitations:

1. They are only based on a snapshot of "current" cases in Israel

2. While adjusting for age, they do not adjust for other confounders including co-morbidities, vaccination time, or sex/race and time infected.

Prof Jeffrey S Morris

@jsm2334

·

7h

3. As mentioned, previous infection does not appear to be separated out of MoH data, & these comprise a substantial proportion of unvaccinated.

4. There may be other factors determining who got boosted or not, and these may also bias the VE.

It’s showing just current cases in Israel.

Spin it all you want. Cut those VE’s in half and the vaccines are still extraordinarily effective!

Nice to see safety, success, and health still drive you crazy DanM!

I’m just laughing at this again. DanM thinks someone discussing the limitations of their own data is evidence it’s flat-out wrong.

Critical thinking… it’s an entirely foreign concept to the anti-vaxxers.

Sounds like your Professor Morris is a lot closer to Harambe than he is to you:

"There is no question that boosters restore high levels of protection vs. infection and severe disease.

The question is whether they are necessary or desirable for all age groups, especially in the context of a long term strategy."

And:

"When we look at severe disease, we see even without boosters we see strong protection vs. severe disease in the vaccinated group that has not been boosted.

Of course the boosters top off that protection and push it near 100%"

2600 bro wrote:

Critical thinking… it’s an entirely foreign concept to the anti-vaxxers.

It's why they believe what they do. They lack executive functioning.

The DanM self-own is a classic at this point