You obviously don't understand the Joint Committee's report. If you did, you would be able to explain it to us.
And the Inflation Reduction Act will make sure that I am right about electric vehicles. It provides a $7500 tax credit for any car with a plug.
For the first half of 2022, the Tesla Model Y and Tesla Model 3 are the two top selling vehicles in California. That's not just top EVs. THE TOP VEHICLES. And that's without the tax credit.
By 2030, 90% of all light duty vehicles sold in the US will have a plug. Count on it.
Those $7,500 tax credits are on vehicles up to $80,000, i.e., rich people.
Limit is $55,000 for sedans and $80,000 for trucks, vans, and SUVs.
So you can buy a new EV for $25,000 and get $7500 off. That brings your price for a new EV down to $18,000.
And you can get a $4,000 tax credit if you buy a used EV.
EVs are not just for the rich any more. Anyone who can afford a gas car can now afford an EV. In fact, the EV will be a lot cheaper in the long run.
They've let themselves be convinced that liberals are SO, SO bad, that being in bed with pretty much anyone else AGAINST them is OK. It's not. And it could literally destroy our democracy.
Oh we still have a "democracy"? When is this "democracy" going to investigate Hillary Clinton? She is literally out there BRAGGING that she did the same thing Trump is accused of doing. Having a hard time caring about why we should "preserve" this "democracy" anymore.
Again, minimizing. You're picking a (very likely) Trump transgression that probably doesn't land in his Top 10. Hell, maybe not Top 20.
I never cared for Hillary. And what she did with her e-mails was totally bogus. I spent 30 working with classified material, and pretty confident that I or most others would have gotten in more trouble than she did. If she had served 6 months, or whatever, great. Of course, Trump, being off-the-scales "the rules don't apply to me" very likely did much worse than Clinton. And if he FINALLY gets in trouble for something, also great.
But how about his OTHER, far worse, transgressions? Those OK? Don't even want to admit they exist? At the end of the day, Hillary rates a zero on the "Threat to Democracy" scale. Trump is between 7 and 10. Wake up.
That would be amazing. The FBI is a disgrace and a clown show. J. Edgar Hoover was a disgrace and it remains so today.
there you go. 'conservatives' defunding the police and destroying American institutions when the institution is not helpful to them. Or makes 'conservatives' follow laws and rules.
Hey, wouldn't it be great if the "law & order!" folks would, you know, obey the law?
Oh we still have a "democracy"? When is this "democracy" going to investigate Hillary Clinton? She is literally out there BRAGGING that she did the same thing Trump is accused of doing. Having a hard time caring about why we should "preserve" this "democracy" anymore.
Again, minimizing. You're picking a (very likely) Trump transgression that probably doesn't land in his Top 10. Hell, maybe not Top 20.
I never cared for Hillary. And what she did with her e-mails was totally bogus. I spent 30 working with classified material, and pretty confident that I or most others would have gotten in more trouble than she did. If she had served 6 months, or whatever, great. Of course, Trump, being off-the-scales "the rules don't apply to me" very likely did much worse than Clinton. And if he FINALLY gets in trouble for something, also great.
But how about his OTHER, far worse, transgressions? Those OK? Don't even want to admit they exist? At the end of the day, Hillary rates a zero on the "Threat to Democracy" scale. Trump is between 7 and 10. Wake up.
I didn't say that Trump didn't have any "wins." Yep, 3 conservative supreme court justices. Guess how many conservative supreme court justices any of the other 2016 R primary contenders would have appointed? Yes, 3. Same result, but horrendous man president. This isn't Logic 101, because that would be a college course. It's logic for grade schoolers.
Your second and third last sentences cast off all of Trump's completely disqualifying behavior, like so many other Rs/Trumpers do. Rs had a choice. And they still have a choice. There are literally thousands, if not tens of thousands, of Rs in this country who would make a better president. They could choose them. They CHOOSE not to. Far, far too many LIKE Trump.
They've let themselves be convinced that liberals are SO, SO bad, that being in bed with pretty much anyone else AGAINST them is OK. It's not. And it could literally destroy our democracy.
"We're not electing the pastor at our church." Correct, we're electing someone almost infinitely more powerful. In that person, SOME appreciation for honesty should matter. Trump clearly, clearly has zero. Ditto all of the other personal and professional flaws I've mentioned....and could go on all day listing.
So all of you, please stop with the minimizing of Trump's flaws. They're massive and clearly disqualifying. Likewise, stop being duped into believing that Biden - or ANY other politician on the scene right now - is within a light year as bad. Somewhere inside, I'd like to think that at least SOME of you might actually know what BS that is.
I don’t think liberals are bad people, I just disagree with a lot of their policy decisions. Liberals have marched out Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden for the past two presidential elections, you say character count and each of these have some pretty obvious character deficiencies. FWIW, I wasn’t thrilled to vote for orange man but it is what it is.
So if I’m forced to choose between a politician with flawed character traits who will better represent my views on policy compared to a politician with flawed character traits who won’t represent my views on policy, who should I choose?
Im not minimizing trumps flaws, people are using his flaws to minimize those of other politicians. You just did so in this thread. Biden isn’t near as bad as trump, not even within a “light year” so then Biden’s flaws are forgivable. If anyone is minimizing here, it’s you.
First off, no accurate, objective, honest comparison of Trump versus any other modern president, Biden included, finds Trump anything other than off-the-scales on lack-of-fitness for the presidency. Neither Biden, nor Clinton, nor Bush Jr., nor Carter, NOR NIXON has squat on Trump and his list of transgressions. You KNOW the list, and you know damn well you couldn't come up with but a fraction of the list for Biden or anyone else. If you don't agree with this, your head is willfully in the sand, along with tens of millions of other Americans.
Second of all, Biden or any other D is COMPLETELY irrelevant with regard to who the Rs pick as their current leader and future presidential nominee. They COULD make it an easier choice for all of those conservatives who don't like Biden. But they likely won't. They WILL choose Trump, or a close imitator. So, it's not about Biden. It's about LIKING Trump and/or hating liberals far, far more than you actually care about character, democracy, etc.
Again, minimizing. You're picking a (very likely) Trump transgression that probably doesn't land in his Top 10. Hell, maybe not Top 20.
I never cared for Hillary. And what she did with her e-mails was totally bogus. I spent 30 working with classified material, and pretty confident that I or most others would have gotten in more trouble than she did. If she had served 6 months, or whatever, great. Of course, Trump, being off-the-scales "the rules don't apply to me" very likely did much worse than Clinton. And if he FINALLY gets in trouble for something, also great.
But how about his OTHER, far worse, transgressions? Those OK? Don't even want to admit they exist? At the end of the day, Hillary rates a zero on the "Threat to Democracy" scale. Trump is between 7 and 10. Wake up.
What are those other far worse transgressions?
Did he lie us into a war in Iraq?
Or one in Libya? Syria? Yemen? Somalia?
You know the list. Why pretend? Not that you have any credibility, but it just accentuates your lack of it. You could pick a few Trump transgressions from his Top 10 and try to defend/refute them, but you don't.
For example, maybe you could try, like a few others have tried on this thread in the past, to explain why "Just find me 11,000 votes (in GA)" isn't, ALL BY ITSELF, utterly disqualifying, and almost certainly worse than any other presidential words/actions since at least WWII ?
Go ahead and tell us the Biden or Hillary words or actions that compare to a brazen attempt to steal a presidential election. Go for it. Maybe a quote about vaccine effectiveness, or the character of one's son, or e-mail servers might compare? Nope, you'll have to do MUCH better than that. And you simply can't.
Unless you're literally on your death bed anyway everybody I know is over it in 3 days.
1) So nobody's going to die from Covid-19 except the people who are going to die. Got it.
2) And clearly the people "you know" are a large group (in the thousands) who accurately represent the ranges of age, education, body fat percentage, and race that we see in the U.S. population as a whole. Entirely reasonable to draw the conclusions you did, then.
And "Flagpole" was able to find gas in his locale at a much lower price.
So it's a good thing that "former present" talked about the NATIONAL average and provided a link to support it, so we can avoid being distracted by local variation. Flagpole's example and yours don't mean squat.
I didn't say that Trump didn't have any "wins." Yep, 3 conservative supreme court justices. Guess how many conservative supreme court justices any of the other 2016 R primary contenders would have appointed? Yes, 3. Same result, but horrendous man president. This isn't Logic 101, because that would be a college course. It's logic for grade schoolers.
Your second and third last sentences cast off all of Trump's completely disqualifying behavior, like so many other Rs/Trumpers do. Rs had a choice. And they still have a choice. There are literally thousands, if not tens of thousands, of Rs in this country who would make a better president. They could choose them. They CHOOSE not to. Far, far too many LIKE Trump.
They've let themselves be convinced that liberals are SO, SO bad, that being in bed with pretty much anyone else AGAINST them is OK. It's not. And it could literally destroy our democracy.
"We're not electing the pastor at our church." Correct, we're electing someone almost infinitely more powerful. In that person, SOME appreciation for honesty should matter. Trump clearly, clearly has zero. Ditto all of the other personal and professional flaws I've mentioned....and could go on all day listing.
So all of you, please stop with the minimizing of Trump's flaws. They're massive and clearly disqualifying. Likewise, stop being duped into believing that Biden - or ANY other politician on the scene right now - is within a light year as bad. Somewhere inside, I'd like to think that at least SOME of you might actually know what BS that is.
I don’t think liberals are bad people, I just disagree with a lot of their policy decisions. Liberals have marched out Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden for the past two presidential elections, you say character count and each of these have some pretty obvious character deficiencies. FWIW, I wasn’t thrilled to vote for orange man but it is what it is.
So if I’m forced to choose between a politician with flawed character traits who will better represent my views on policy compared to a politician with flawed character traits who won’t represent my views on policy, who should I choose?
Im not minimizing trumps flaws, people are using his flaws to minimize those of other politicians. You just did so in this thread. Biden isn’t near as bad as trump, not even within a “light year” so then Biden’s flaws are forgivable. If anyone is minimizing here, it’s you.
"Flawed character traits." Another common minimizing refrain about Trump. No, "flawed character traits" are things like typical (wrong and unacceptable) lying and near-lying from your average politician (Biden and Hillary certainly included). Or having affairs. Or shady business or tax practices. Or being an abusive boss or co-worker. Etc.
Say again after me: "Trying to steal a presidential election is NOT merely a 'flawed character trait.'" DITTO the following (and many more):
- Lying to the American people pretty much every time you open your mouth (not typical US politician lying - TRUMP lying)
- Willfully handling a pandemic poorly, resulting in 100K's of unnecessary deaths
- Shaking down a foreign leader for political help.
- In front of all of the world, clearly siding with the virtual dictator Putin over the consensus view of YOUR OWN intelligence agencies. More generally, doing your very best to unnecessarily alienate close allies and occasionally coddle your country's enemies.
You know the list. Why pretend? Not that you have any credibility, but it just accentuates your lack of it. You could pick a few Trump transgressions from his Top 10 and try to defend/refute them, but you don't.
For example, maybe you could try, like a few others have tried on this thread in the past, to explain why "Just find me 11,000 votes (in GA)" isn't, ALL BY ITSELF, utterly disqualifying, and almost certainly worse than any other presidential words/actions since at least WWII ?
Go ahead and tell us the Biden or Hillary words or actions that compare to a brazen attempt to steal a presidential election. Go for it. Maybe a quote about vaccine effectiveness, or the character of one's son, or e-mail servers might compare? Nope, you'll have to do MUCH better than that. And you simply can't.
You mean the Russian collusion hoax the Hillary campaing foisted on us in 2016?
Anyone familiar with basic stats can see the votes that were counted in the days following the election in 2020 in PA, Wisc, and Mi in only the presidential race that were 90% for Biden werr bogus. No doubt the same oligarchs who cheated Bernie for Hillary and then Biden stole the 2020 general election.
By the way, you failed to answer my question.
What wars did Trump lie us into?
Bush/Cheney and then Obama/Biden/Clinton lied us into several
You know the list. Why pretend? Not that you have any credibility, but it just accentuates your lack of it. You could pick a few Trump transgressions from his Top 10 and try to defend/refute them, but you don't.
For example, maybe you could try, like a few others have tried on this thread in the past, to explain why "Just find me 11,000 votes (in GA)" isn't, ALL BY ITSELF, utterly disqualifying, and almost certainly worse than any other presidential words/actions since at least WWII ?
Go ahead and tell us the Biden or Hillary words or actions that compare to a brazen attempt to steal a presidential election. Go for it. Maybe a quote about vaccine effectiveness, or the character of one's son, or e-mail servers might compare? Nope, you'll have to do MUCH better than that. And you simply can't.
You mean the Russian collusion hoax the Hillary campaing foisted on us in 2016?
Anyone familiar with basic stats can see the votes that were counted in the days following the election in 2020 in PA, Wisc, and Mi in only the presidential race that were 90% for Biden werr bogus. No doubt the same oligarchs who cheated Bernie for Hillary and then Biden stole the 2020 general election.
By the way, you failed to answer my question.
What wars did Trump lie us into?
Bush/Cheney and then Obama/Biden/Clinton lied us into several
Yes, I should answer every question about bad things that Trump didn't do. Don't be a moran.
About Russia and 2016, you still want to pretend that the R-led Senate intelligence committee DIDN'T find that Russia interfered in the election and Trump and his campaign had inappropriate contact with them? Donny tells you it wasn't so, and so you believe it?
It's THIS simple: MUCH of what you believe about this country and world comes from the mind and mouth Donald Trump, the most obvious liar in the world. Beyond pathetic.
Lastly, WHERE OR WHERE are all of these R lawyers who DO understand "basic stats" and make convincing cases about significant election irregularities? Almost 2 years, now. Really, WHERE ARE THEY ??? Or, why don't YOU do it ???
You mean the Russian collusion hoax the Hillary campaing foisted on us in 2016?
Anyone familiar with basic stats can see the votes that were counted in the days following the election in 2020 in PA, Wisc, and Mi in only the presidential race that were 90% for Biden werr bogus. No doubt the same oligarchs who cheated Bernie for Hillary and then Biden stole the 2020 general election.
By the way, you failed to answer my question.
What wars did Trump lie us into?
Bush/Cheney and then Obama/Biden/Clinton lied us into several
Yes, I should answer every question about bad things that Trump didn't do. Don't be a moran.
About Russia and 2016, you still want to pretend that the R-led Senate intelligence committee DIDN'T find that Russia interfered in the election and Trump and his campaign had inappropriate contact with them? Donny tells you it wasn't so, and so you believe it?
It's THIS simple: MUCH of what you believe about this country and world comes from the mind and mouth Donald Trump, the most obvious liar in the world. Beyond pathetic.
Lastly, WHERE OR WHERE are all of these R lawyers who DO understand "basic stats" and make convincing cases about significant election irregularities? Almost 2 years, now. Really, WHERE ARE THEY ??? Or, why don't YOU do it ???
Yes, I should answer every question about bad things that Trump didn't do. Don't be a moran.
About Russia and 2016, you still want to pretend that the R-led Senate intelligence committee DIDN'T find that Russia interfered in the election and Trump and his campaign had inappropriate contact with them? Donny tells you it wasn't so, and so you believe it?
It's THIS simple: MUCH of what you believe about this country and world comes from the mind and mouth Donald Trump, the most obvious liar in the world. Beyond pathetic.
Lastly, WHERE OR WHERE are all of these R lawyers who DO understand "basic stats" and make convincing cases about significant election irregularities? Almost 2 years, now. Really, WHERE ARE THEY ??? Or, why don't YOU do it ???
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