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1 year ago 07/31/2022 9:12am EDT

re: Ghost of Disco Gary

You want swamp? Here's swamp. Awful stuff. Dems and Trumpists. This stuff used to end careers.

A company profiting from a new North Carolina tribal casino gave shares to politicians’ family members and high-profile political figures as the casino’s backers were seeking federal approval for the project, according to interviews and documents reviewed by The Wall Street Journal.

One of the stakes is held by John B. Clyburn, a brother of Rep. James Clyburn, the powerful South Carolina Democratic congressman who introduced a bill in Congress last year that smoothed the way for the new Catawba Two Kings Casino.

Other stakes went to Michael Haley, husband of former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley, who served in the Trump administration as ambassador to the United Nations; Butch Bowers, a lawyer who has represented both Ms. Haley and former President Donald Trump; and Patti Solis Doyle, a Democratic political operative who helped manage campaigns in 2008 for Hillary Clinton and then-vice presidential candidate Joe Biden, according to the documents.
The stakes, held indirectly through another entity, gave each of the recipients a slice of a slot-machine leasing company called Kings Mountain Equipment Supply LLC, whose major shareholders include financial backers of the casino or their associates, according to the documents. The company gets 20 cents of every $1 in profits the casino generates from hundreds of slot machines.

wsj.com

WSJ News Exclusive | Slice of Profits From North Carolina Casino Goes to Relatives of Politicians

Mark Maremont

Relatives of U.S. Rep. Jim Clyburn and former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley got secret stakes in a company set to profit from a new tribal casino as it was seeking federal approval. Those involved deny any quid pro quo.

Link:www.wsj.com/articles/slice-of-profits-...

1 year ago 07/31/2022 9:27am EDT

re: El Runkin

El Runkin wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
What does it mean to you to be an Exalted Man?
Are you saying that you are a god or that you will be a god some day?
I've got to say, Fat, that these are some pretty weird questions to be asking here in a Biden thread. Especially from a self-proclaimed Biblicalist like yourself. Do you really not know? If so, you have resources, you are a man of means, you can find the answers if you wish. Then, and only then, will you know The Truth of the Matter (TTOM).

You are the one who brought it up on this thread reapeatedly. You should at least have the courtesy to explain it to us and tell us why you think it is relevant to this thread. You have implied that the whole "Exalted Man" thing informs your political philosophy. So it's important to know where you are coming from.

What does it mean to you to be an Exalted Man?
Are you saying that you are a god or that you will be a god some day?

1 year ago 07/31/2022 9:58am EDT

re: Koko the Gorilla

Koko the Gorilla wrote:
formerly present wrote:
Trust me, you don't want to find out.
But was there anything in my post above that was inaccurate? I'll correct it and apologize, if so.
Bidens RCP average was 36.8%. Trumps lowest ever was 37%.
And yes this is an average of all polls. What they do is take 10 or so polls and calculate a rolling average every day.

I guess I'll never get that apology.

1 year ago 07/31/2022 10:00am EDT

re: Ghost of Disco Gary

Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Wow. You are an idiot. How on Earth do you, with your supposed "Christian values" back Donald Trump who is one of, if not the most, sinful person ever to be elected to a national office in this country?
Prove to me that there is life after death. Prove to me that God exists and that I will be judged after I die. Prove to me that there is a lake of fire. Should be easy to find this lake of fire. If Heaven is filled with a$holes like you, then I wouldn't want to be there anyway. IF Heaven exists, there's no freakin' way you are headed there. Luckily for you, it doesn't exist (and neither does hell), and only those who know you who know you are an a$hole will be sharing stories after you pass about how big of an a$hole you are. That will be the only punishment you will suffer when you die. Not that bad I suppose, but well deserved.
Name calling is not an argument. You support groomers, the killing of unborn babies and like minded politicians- those are not Christian values at all. So look in the mirror before criticizing others.
Psalms 14:1 The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, They have done abominable works, There is none who does good.
You sir are a fool and if you do not repent, the Lake of Fire will be your fate.
Fat hurts- here is your opportunity to defend the faith, are you going to allow Flagpole to deny God, ridicule Christians and the Bible too? Step up, dude.

Ummm . . . gonna go out on a limb here and guess that Flagpole doesn't need the Fat dude's permission to deny that there is a god.

1 year ago 07/31/2022 10:17am EDT

re: Flagpole

Flagpole wrote:
Regardless, Republicans have a tough hill to climb if they want to get back into the White House in 2024.
25% of voters identify as Republicans
31% of voters identify as Democrats
41% of voters identify as Independents
The balance do not identify.

Not true anymore. People change their party identification. Gallup currently says

27% Republican

27% Democrat

43% Independent

And among independents, Biden's approval has gone from over 50% to 28%. Epic fail!

1 year ago 07/31/2022 10:47am EDT

re: Flagpole

Flagpole wrote:
Sorry, but I destroy all of you here regarding Biblical Scholarship. Part of the reason I am no longer a believer.

You wouldn't, and you never were a believer. You attended church, but you didn't believe in anything supernatural (and for some reason, didn't realize that other people at your church do).

1 year ago 07/31/2022 12:10pm EDT

re: Ghost of Disco Gary

Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Wow. You are an idiot. How on Earth do you, with your supposed "Christian values" back Donald Trump who is one of, if not the most, sinful person ever to be elected to a national office in this country?
Prove to me that there is life after death. Prove to me that God exists and that I will be judged after I die. Prove to me that there is a lake of fire. Should be easy to find this lake of fire. If Heaven is filled with a$holes like you, then I wouldn't want to be there anyway. IF Heaven exists, there's no freakin' way you are headed there. Luckily for you, it doesn't exist (and neither does hell), and only those who know you who know you are an a$hole will be sharing stories after you pass about how big of an a$hole you are. That will be the only punishment you will suffer when you die. Not that bad I suppose, but well deserved.
Name calling is not an argument. You support groomers, the killing of unborn babies and like minded politicians- those are not Christian values at all. So look in the mirror before criticizing others.
Psalms 14:1 The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, They have done abominable works, There is none who does good.
You sir are a fool and if you do not repent, the Lake of Fire will be your fate.
Fat hurts- here is your opportunity to defend the faith, are you going to allow Flagpole to deny God, ridicule Christians and the Bible too? Step up, dude.

Flagpole does make some good points about Trump. Too many Christians have embraced Trump and his hedonism. It has hurt the Christian cause tremendously.

There are proofs of God's existence, but Flagpole also demands proof of the afterlife. I'm not aware of any afterlife proofs. One must have faith, which Flagpole does not share.

The best I have for someone like Flagpole is Pascal's wager, which in summary argues,

If we live as though God exists, and He does indeed exist, we have gained heaven. If He doesn’t exist, we have lost nothing.

1 year ago 07/31/2022 12:34pm EDT

re: Fat hurts

Fat hurts wrote:
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Name calling is not an argument. You support groomers, the killing of unborn babies and like minded politicians- those are not Christian values at all. So look in the mirror before criticizing others.
Psalms 14:1 The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, They have done abominable works, There is none who does good.
You sir are a fool and if you do not repent, the Lake of Fire will be your fate.
Fat hurts- here is your opportunity to defend the faith, are you going to allow Flagpole to deny God, ridicule Christians and the Bible too? Step up, dude.
Flagpole does make some good points about Trump. Too many Christians have embraced Trump and his hedonism. It has hurt the Christian cause tremendously.
There are proofs of God's existence, but Flagpole also demands proof of the afterlife. I'm not aware of any afterlife proofs. One must have faith, which Flagpole does not share.
The best I have for someone like Flagpole is Pascal's wager, which in summary argues,
If we live as though God exists, and He does indeed exist, we have gained heaven. If He doesn’t exist, we have lost nothing.

There are no valid proofs of God's existence just as there are no valid proofs for God's lack of existence.

And Pascal's wager is just silly. One cannot choose to believe in something because it may be beneficial to do so. One can only choose to pretend to believe in something if it is expedient to do so.

1 year ago 07/31/2022 12:51pm EDT

re: GEICO

GEICO wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Flagpole does make some good points about Trump. Too many Christians have embraced Trump and his hedonism. It has hurt the Christian cause tremendously.
There are proofs of God's existence, but Flagpole also demands proof of the afterlife. I'm not aware of any afterlife proofs. One must have faith, which Flagpole does not share.
The best I have for someone like Flagpole is Pascal's wager, which in summary argues,
There are no valid proofs of God's existence just as there are no valid proofs for God's lack of existence.
And Pascal's wager is just silly. One cannot choose to believe in something because it may be beneficial to do so. One can only choose to pretend to believe in something if it is expedient to do so.

There are certainly many valid proofs for God's existence. The ontological proof is my favorite.

Pascal was a truly brilliant man. He didn't write a lot of silly things.

Belief is a choice. You can choose to believe or not.

1 year ago 07/31/2022 1:32pm EDT

re: Hardloper

Hardloper wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Sorry, but I destroy all of you here regarding Biblical Scholarship. Part of the reason I am no longer a believer.
You wouldn't, and you never were a believer. You attended church, but you didn't believe in anything supernatural (and for some reason, didn't realize that other people at your church do).

Correct. The same goes for Joe Biden, Pelosi, etc. They merely make an appearance at “church” while using their position of authority to do much evil. They are far from the Truth. The lake fire awaits all democrats.

1 year ago 07/31/2022 1:35pm EDT

re: Fat hurts

Fat hurts wrote:
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Name calling is not an argument. You support groomers, the killing of unborn babies and like minded politicians- those are not Christian values at all. So look in the mirror before criticizing others.
Psalms 14:1 The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, They have done abominable works, There is none who does good.
You sir are a fool and if you do not repent, the Lake of Fire will be your fate.
Fat hurts- here is your opportunity to defend the faith, are you going to allow Flagpole to deny God, ridicule Christians and the Bible too? Step up, dude.
Flagpole does make some good points about Trump. Too many Christians have embraced Trump and his hedonism. It has hurt the Christian cause tremendously.
There are proofs of God's existence, but Flagpole also demands proof of the afterlife. I'm not aware of any afterlife proofs. One must have faith, which Flagpole does not share.
The best I have for someone like Flagpole is Pascal's wager, which in summary argues,
If we live as though God exists, and He does indeed exist, we have gained heaven. If He doesn’t exist, we have lost nothing.

Incorrect. By voting democrat, you support many evils:

abortion

gays, transgender, etc. groomers

attacks on Christians

glorification of criminals (blm)

worship of climate “science”

Just to name a few democrat evils.

1 year ago 07/31/2022 1:35pm EDT

re: Fat hurts

Fat hurts wrote:
GEICO wrote:
There are no valid proofs of God's existence just as there are no valid proofs for God's lack of existence.
And Pascal's wager is just silly. One cannot choose to believe in something because it may be beneficial to do so. One can only choose to pretend to believe in something if it is expedient to do so.
There are certainly many valid proofs for God's existence. The ontological proof is my favorite.
Pascal was a truly brilliant man. He didn't write a lot of silly things.
Belief is a choice. You can choose to believe or not.

Let me know when you decide to believe that 2+2=5. And don't bother with "I don't want to." The reality is that you cannot.

Belief is certainly not a choice. That, like Pascal's wager, is a silly idea.

1 year ago 07/31/2022 1:36pm EDT

re: Fat hurts

In the 70s a white male like myself in the 35th to 50th percentile of performers would have a comfortable retirement when they got to 60-65 years old. In my town, you went to church on Sundays back then (Wednesdays too if you were a Baptist) and guys like Flagpole would have been ostracized for their beliefs. In red states we may be headed back to that. MGT and her belief in Christian Nationalism is spreading. (Luckily she did not call it National Christianism.) And guys why do you have to include insults in every post and why do the Brojos tolerate it?

1 year ago 07/31/2022 2:35pm EDT

re: Fat hurts

Fat hurts wrote:
GEICO wrote:
There are no valid proofs of God's existence just as there are no valid proofs for God's lack of existence.
And Pascal's wager is just silly. One cannot choose to believe in something because it may be beneficial to do so. One can only choose to pretend to believe in something if it is expedient to do so.
There are certainly many valid proofs for God's existence. The ontological proof is my favorite.
Pascal was a truly brilliant man. He didn't write a lot of silly things.
Belief is a choice. You can choose to believe or not.

No, that's not accurate. You can't make yourself believe something with the certitude required for Christianity, if you have are skeptical about it. Pascal's wager is flawed and illogical.

No one ever became exalted harboring skepticism for the exalting process. Ask Flagpole, if you don't believe me.

1 year ago 07/31/2022 2:57pm EDT

re: GEICO

GEICO wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
There are certainly many valid proofs for God's existence. The ontological proof is my favorite.
Pascal was a truly brilliant man. He didn't write a lot of silly things.
Belief is a choice. You can choose to believe or not.
Let me know when you decide to believe that 2+2=5. And don't bother with "I don't want to." The reality is that you cannot.
Belief is certainly not a choice. That, like Pascal's wager, is a silly idea.

Belief is a choice. I definitely could believe 2+2=5 if I wanted to. People believe all kinds of nonsensical things. Take flat earthers for example.

Belief in nonsense is not only possible, it's rather common.

1 year ago 07/31/2022 3:04pm EDT

re: El Runkin

El Runkin wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
There are certainly many valid proofs for God's existence. The ontological proof is my favorite.
Pascal was a truly brilliant man. He didn't write a lot of silly things.
Belief is a choice. You can choose to believe or not.
No, that's not accurate. You can't make yourself believe something with the certitude required for Christianity, if you have are skeptical about it. Pascal's wager is flawed and illogical.
No one ever became exalted harboring skepticism for the exalting process. Ask Flagpole, if you don't believe me.

A healthy skepticism is a good thing. A good religion encourages you to reexamine your beliefs as you did when you decided that it was important to move to a denomination that allows booze.

Skepticism can make faith stronger.

Are you exalted? Does that mean you consider yourself to be a god?

1 year ago 07/31/2022 3:27pm EDT

re: Fat hurts

Fat hurts wrote:
El Runkin wrote:
No, that's not accurate. You can't make yourself believe something with the certitude required for Christianity, if you have are skeptical about it. Pascal's wager is flawed and illogical.
No one ever became exalted harboring skepticism for the exalting process. Ask Flagpole, if you don't believe me.
A healthy skepticism is a good thing. A good religion encourages you to reexamine your beliefs as you did when you decided that it was important to move to a denomination that allows booze.
Skepticism can make faith stronger.
Are you exalted? Does that mean you consider yourself to be a god?

You can reexamine your religion all you want. But if you are skeptical, for example, that J. Christ is god's son who rose from dead, then you are not a Christian. You can't make yourself believe something you are skeptical about. It's impossible. Pascal's wager is illogical. It is fatally flawed.

We are having our Great Exalt next week. It will be a glorious affair, with high quality people. Top notch people. My kind of people.

1 year ago 07/31/2022 3:44pm EDT

re: El Runkin

El Runkin wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
A healthy skepticism is a good thing. A good religion encourages you to reexamine your beliefs as you did when you decided that it was important to move to a denomination that allows booze.
Skepticism can make faith stronger.
Are you exalted? Does that mean you consider yourself to be a god?
You can reexamine your religion all you want. But if you are skeptical, for example, that J. Christ is god's son who rose from dead, then you are not a Christian. You can't make yourself believe something you are skeptical about. It's impossible. Pascal's wager is illogical. It is fatally flawed.
We are having our Great Exalt next week. It will be a glorious affair, with high quality people. Top notch people. My kind of people.

What is the "Great Exalt"? Do you all become exalted?

1 year ago 07/31/2022 4:23pm EDT

re: Koko the Gorilla

Koko the Gorilla wrote:
Koko the Gorilla wrote:
Bidens RCP average was 36.8%. Trumps lowest ever was 37%.
And yes this is an average of all polls. What they do is take 10 or so polls and calculate a rolling average every day.
I guess I'll never get that apology.

Thanks for the info and the reminder, and apologies for thinking 538 was the only outfit that did that. However, "10 or so polls" is NOT "an average of all polls"; 538 aggregates multiple dozens of polls.

Because 538's methodology seems more encompassing--more truly a poll-of-polls--I'll stick to using that. Nevertheless, I apologize for assuming that an aggregation of fewer polls would reach the same conclusions that 538 does, and I will be more careful in future to state that my posts are drawn from 538's info.

By the way, 538 shows that JRB's approval has continued to rise for the last week or two. The continuing drop in average gasoline prices may be a factor in that. Or not: Correlation is not necessarily causation.

1 year ago 07/31/2022 4:37pm EDT

re: Ghost of Disco Gary

Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Psalms 14:1 The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, They have done abominable works, There is none who does good.
You sir are a fool and if you do not repent, the Lake of Fire will be your fate.

Hey, I know Bible verses too!

1 Kings 7:23--Pi equals three!

Judges 1:19--"G-d" can't beat iron chariots!

Numbers 5:11-31--"G-d" provides a formula for abortion, and *requires* its use in certain situations!

Matthew 27:52-53--ZOMBIES!

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All of that said: While "G-d" itself isn't real, god-belief IS. And god-belief can be enormously powerful. If we learn nothing else from history, we need to know that.

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