"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

He looks as smug as he posts doesn't he?

sthr wrote:

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-30/n-y-must-give-religious-exemption-for-healthcare-worker-vaccine

This is a knockout blow to that Liberal New York. Major victory for those healthcare workers who decline the vaccine and can take a religious exemption and keep their jobs!

Thanks for the link! Reading it makes clear that this is a temporary situation--that could, however, become permanent--so for right now "knockout blow" is an overstatement.

We have more than a century of precedent that a state can impose universal health mandates without regard to religious objections, so we'll see how this all plays out--not likely to be completely resolved before the end of the year, I'd guess.

Most Western religions are death cults anyway so at least the three believers who brought suit were being consistent.

You are a bigot.

Lead Foil Hat XVI wrote:

You are a bigot.

Do tell.

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

So, go whine & cry to your Liberal peers - victory is sweet in the court of law!

But that is all you anti-vax folks are doing. whining and crying. Funny to me. Really is. I come here everyday to rub it in that your stupidity, while getting more noticed than ever before, is still largely seen as stupidity and they need so-called mandates to prevent the likes of you from wrecking communities. And yeah, I'm aware they aren't true mandates and they do give an option to test weekly. Which makes folks like yourself complaining even funnier. You are pretty soft my friend. Masks? Too hard. Vaccinations? Too invasive. What the hell happened to you? Didn't you once use to run into buildings to save people?

The Clown Show wrote:

Lead Foil Hat XVI wrote:

You are a bigot.

Do tell.

I know this is hard for a bigot like yourself to understand.

big·ot

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noun

a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

The Clown Show wrote:

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

So, go whine & cry to your Liberal peers - victory is sweet in the court of law!

But that is all you anti-vax folks are doing. whining and crying. Funny to me. Really is. I come here everyday to rub it in that your stupidity, while getting more noticed than ever before, is still largely seen as stupidity and they need so-called mandates to prevent the likes of you from wrecking communities. And yeah, I'm aware they aren't true mandates and they do give an option to test weekly. Which makes folks like yourself complaining even funnier. You are pretty soft my friend. Masks? Too hard. Vaccinations? Too invasive. What the hell happened to you? Didn't you once use to run into buildings to save people?

Another classic display of bigotry here.

Lead Foil Hat XVI wrote:

The Clown Show wrote:

But that is all you anti-vax folks are doing. whining and crying. Funny to me. Really is. I come here everyday to rub it in that your stupidity, while getting more noticed than ever before, is still largely seen as stupidity and they need so-called mandates to prevent the likes of you from wrecking communities. And yeah, I'm aware they aren't true mandates and they do give an option to test weekly. Which makes folks like yourself complaining even funnier. You are pretty soft my friend. Masks? Too hard. Vaccinations? Too invasive. What the hell happened to you? Didn't you once use to run into buildings to save people?

Another classic display of bigotry here.

Fellas, is calling out morons shamelessly screaming ignorance incessantly on these boards, in fact, bigotry?

Everyone who is mean to me is a bigot: the mantra of the denier-fearmongers.

Grow up, boys, in the real world you don't get coddled if you are inept.

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

Hey Clown, do you ever bother to read these links you post? The Biden mandates allow for weekly testing for those who decline the vaccine. Same with those airlines. The colleges there in Illinois allow religious exemptions and weekly testing for those college kids that want to opt out. So, why are you trying to put one over us? If these mandates didn't allow any exemptions that you would have a point. But just as a typical Liberal you don't report all the facts thinking you can put one up on us pro-choice/informed consent advocates. Though I'm retired, I have several friends that declined the mandated vaccine at their work taking a religious exemption and will submit to weekly testing. They're happy...their employers are happy - only the progressive Liberals aren't happy. I say too freaking bad & I'm LMAO.

Weekly testing is fine. That's a good compromise for the morons you can't reason with.

Insurers will not be so friendly though, increased premiums are coming. That is going to hurt a lot of families -- very sad.

It's still funny that the dude living off the federal government spends all day raging at it online. The irony is not lost on me.

The Clown Show wrote:

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

So, go whine & cry to your Liberal peers - victory is sweet in the court of law!

But that is all you anti-vax folks are doing. whining and crying. Funny to me. Really is. I come here everyday to rub it in that your stupidity, while getting more noticed than ever before, is still largely seen as stupidity and they need so-called mandates to prevent the likes of you from wrecking communities. And yeah, I'm aware they aren't true mandates and they do give an option to test weekly. Which makes folks like yourself complaining even funnier. You are pretty soft my friend. Masks? Too hard. Vaccinations? Too invasive. What the hell happened to you? Didn't you once use to run into buildings to save people?

Yeah...I did my fair share of running into burning buildings to save people - so have thousands of other firefighters & police officers. And how can I be "wrecking communities" if I had & recoverd from the Delta variant just last month? (I tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 antibodies spike proteins). I presume you're vaccinated and have antibodies and I have them as well - so we're even on that one. Masks are fine, if govenors & mayors want to mandate them again. Vaccinations = medical intervention = informed consent & a personal health decision.

And if you're aware that they are not true mandates giving the option of weekly testing then why don't add that important fact in your posts instead of that childish "tik tok...anti-vaxxers are in for shock" BS? As I mentioned before, if these mandates were strictly vaccination only with no exemptions of weekly testing and/or religious exemptions, then you wouid have a valid point that the anti-vaxxers, the vaccine hesitant/pro-choicers, etc, would be screwed and all out of jobs if they still declined.

The other issue is the legality of the mandates and how this plays out in court. I think this will be very interesting to follow especially if gets up to the Supreme Court level:

And yes, you come here everyday to troll.

FTFY 😉

Newsflash, your employer can fire you for any reason except for a few narrow exceptions.

Feel free to move to socialist Europe where they have employment contracts if you don't like this.

Hilarious that a self-styled 'conservative' is arguing for more labor protections.

Newsflash, he is retired.

Hilarious that between your handles you get so confused.

Dew wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Newsflash, your employer can fire you for any reason except for a few narrow exceptions.

Feel free to move to socialist Europe where they have employment contracts if you don't like this.

Hilarious that a self-styled 'conservative' is arguing for more labor protections.

Newsflash, he is retired.

Hilarious that between your handles you get so confused.

Yes, clearly the dude posting the same 2 anti-vaxx talking points for months is not doing anything productive.

Everything I said about employers is true. This guy seems to be arguing for much stronger workers' rights in the USA.

Quite progressive!!

Harambe wrote:

Weekly testing is fine. That's a good compromise for the morons you can't reason with.

Insurers will not be so friendly though, increased premiums are coming. That is going to hurt a lot of families -- very sad.

It's still funny that the dude living off the federal government spends all day raging at it online. The irony is not lost on me.

Too funny - you spend a helluva lot more time "raging" with your vaccine tyranny BS! You're "Johnny on the spot" on just about every opposing opinion. Lol. But its expected because you're either a pharma shill or getting some of that sweet Biden $$$ to combat vaccine hesitancy. 😉 And you're not going start with that childish BS that public servants & military members are not entitled to a retirement income. 👎

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Weekly testing is fine. That's a good compromise for the morons you can't reason with.

Insurers will not be so friendly though, increased premiums are coming. That is going to hurt a lot of families -- very sad.

It's still funny that the dude living off the federal government spends all day raging at it online. The irony is not lost on me.

Too funny - you spend a helluva lot more time "raging" with your vaccine tyranny BS! You're "Johnny on the spot" on just about every opposing opinion. Lol. But its expected because you're either a pharma shill or getting some of that sweet Biden $$$ to combat vaccine hesitancy. 😉 And you're not going start with that childish BS that public servants & military members are not entitled to a retirement income. 👎

Public servants and military members should save for retirement like the rest of us. The government shouldn't coddle them with massive, mismanaged pensions that create pain for all taxpayers.

Just pay them more and expect them to save like the rest of us.

No one is entitled to free retirement. We should remove social security too, it's a massive, top-down, waste.

If the vaccine mandates were about health, then having natural immunity via previous covid infection would allow you to not get the vaccine.

If they really wanted to convince people to vax, they would give up their legal immunity from being sued over their vaccines.

These two simple observations prove beyond all doubt this is not about the public health.

Does anyone have a reasonable argument to show this to be incorrect?

DanM wrote:

This is hilarious ! Running for the exits. A pill beats a shot every time. No contest in the eyes of the sheep.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanponciano/2021/10/01/moderna-crash-wipes-out-22-billion-in-value-after-mercks-covid-pill-triggers-vaccine-stock-plunge/?sh=561639df5f67

People that think a weekly long course of a drug -> that integrates itself into mRNA (shouldn't that scare the mRNA fearmonger?!?) in and > 50,000X the dose of a vaccine is somehow better than a 2 dose vaccine... it's crazy.

Vaccine: 0.00003g / dose

Molnupiravir: 0.8g /dose * number of doses

It also only reduces mortality by 50% vs 95% for the vaccine.

DanM confirming he cannot do math once again.

FWIW I think Molnupiravir is quite safe and will be a crucial tool for saving lives, but it's not the thing we will be giving to entire populations due to it's known effect profile.

Here's a good overview on the dosing, concerns, and MoA of Molnupiravir:

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

Too funny - you spend a helluva lot more time "raging" with your vaccine tyranny BS! You're "Johnny on the spot" on just about every opposing opinion. Lol. But its expected because you're either a pharma shill or getting some of that sweet Biden $$$ to combat vaccine hesitancy. 😉 And you're not going start with that childish BS that public servants & military members are not entitled to a retirement income. 👎

Telling people the vaccine is a good idea is not "tyranny."

I admit it's been fun watching you lose it after Biden rolled out the mandates, though. Nothing like some sweet anti-vaxxer tears.

It's not childish to point out that someone who depends on the government for income is also spending all day crying about the government! I never said you don't deserve your pension, just that your behavior is ironic.

Anyawy, props for your progressive views on workers' rights. You and AOC are of one mind, it seems

The 95% efficacy claims were based on test that allegedly showed that vaxxed people were 19 times less likely to get coronavirus than the unvaxxed over a 2 month period.

The claim was initially that the vax prevented you from getting Covid -- with 95% effectiveness.

Once it became clear that plenty of fully vaxxed people were getting Covid the claim was changed to the vax lessens symptoms and does not prevent you from getting Covid.

They are lying right in our faces and the herd seems to have no memory at all.

Harambe wrote:

Lead Foil Hat XVI wrote:

Another classic display of bigotry here.

Fellas, is calling out morons shamelessly screaming ignorance incessantly on these boards, in fact, bigotry?

Everyone who is mean to me is a bigot: the mantra of the denier-fearmongers.

Grow up, boys, in the real world you don't get coddled if you are inept.

Ok, you are still a bigot. I don't want to coddle you; just calling it as I see it.