The Unkle wrote:
The more they force these vaxxes on us, the more you can be sure they are up to no good.
Agreed. The lizard people need everyone vaxed so they can rise from underground, but their plan is failing.
The Unkle wrote:
The more they force these vaxxes on us, the more you can be sure they are up to no good.
Agreed. The lizard people need everyone vaxed so they can rise from underground, but their plan is failing.
Noyankee wrote:
2600 bro wrote:
The unvaccinated continue to fill hospitals and the morons in this thread continue to punch the walls and scream about tangential nonsense.
Opening this thread always makes my day.
Correction. The unhealthy continue to fill hospitals.
Yep.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210225/Study-Majority-of-COVID-19-hospitalizations-attributable-to-four-pre-existing-conditions.aspxLead Foil Hat XVI wrote:
https://public.tableau.com/views/CTPWebsiteGallery/9_HospitalizedMap?:language=en&:embed=y&:display_count=y&publish=yes&:origin=viz_share_link
This is actually old, but the current trends still show no relationship between vax rates and deaths, they never have.
Lead Foil Hat XVI wrote:
That's funny, because two of the highest vaxed states have the highest rates of hospitalization. 1)The tableau you added is not out of date--note that it's labeled as "updated" on 10/2--but it shows ABSOLUTE NUMBERS and not *rates*.
2) As others have noted, "hospitalization" can be counted somewhat differently in different locales, but if you wish we can assume the counting is consistent in every state--now DIVIDE EACH OF THOSE ABSOLUTE NUMBERS BY THE STATE'S POPULATION TO COME UP WITH AN ACTUAL *RATE*.
There is actually no correlation between state vax rate and current covid deaths.1) You're conflating two different stats: hospitalizations and deaths.
2) Of course there's a (negative) correlation between the states' vaccination RATES and their current Covid-19 death RATES--it's not -1.0, but it's significant. CORRELATION IS NOT YES-OR-NO, BUT ON A CONTINUUM FROM -1.0 TO +1.0.
If it is still a pandemic, more like a regional epidemic at this point, it...seems to be unaffected by vax rate.
Shall we look at a chart of current death *rate* now?
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/?fbclid=IwAR3j7Vi6ImDjrLWc2TDUycwCCZBRdrSiTKW_qO6_XbI80IoIYQ1uorBcqwc#cases_deathsper100klast7daysIt shows us that over the last seven days Texas, for instance, had four times as many Covid deaths per unit of population as New York, and TEN times the rate of California. But TX is not even one of the worst states; those are WV at 11.1 deaths per 100,000 population, ID 10, AL 9.1, SC 8.4, GA 7.2, and WY 7.1.
Then let's look at a list of vaccination rates by state.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine-trackerWV, the worst state for Covid-19 death *rate*, is also the worst state of the 50 for fully-vaccinated percentage of the population. Second worst is WY; third, ID; fourth, AL; et cetera. Is that a perfect (negative) correlation? No, but it *very* strong.
BOTTOM LINE: VACCINATION RATE IS *CLOSELY* RELATED TO CURRENT COVID-19 DEATH RATE. States with a lower percentage of fully-vaccinated population strongly tend to be states with a higher percentage of Covid-19 dead.
In other words: It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
Sickly America wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
The unhealthy continue to fill hospitals.
Yep.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210225/Study-Majority-of-COVID-19-hospitalizations-attributable-to-four-pre-existing-conditions.aspx
Absolutely: People with obesity, hypertension, diabetes, and heart failure WHO ARE NOT VACCINATED are those most likely to be hospitalized for Covid-19.
kibitzer wrote:
In other words: It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
No it is not, fearmonger.
It is a pandemic of fear. And when it comes to people dying FROM (not with) COVID, it's a disease that is very dangerous to vulnerable people. Those do well in getting vaccinated.
kibitzer wrote:
Sickly America wrote:
Yep.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news-medical.net/amp/news/20210225/Study-Majority-of-COVID-19-hospitalizations-attributable-to-four-pre-existing-conditions.aspxAbsolutely: People with obesity, hypertension, diabetes, and heart failure WHO ARE NOT VACCINATED are those most likely to be hospitalized for Covid-19.
Well then, looks like you confirmed children and otherwise healthy people have nothing to worry about and therefore have a CHOICE to make. Kudos for finally seeing the light. My goodness it took awhile though.
Any idea why the FDA is yet to approve the vaccine, especially since they are funded by Phizer and others?
Noyankee wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
Absolutely: People with obesity, hypertension, diabetes, and heart failure WHO ARE NOT VACCINATED are those most likely to be hospitalized for Covid-19.
Well then, looks like you confirmed children and otherwise healthy people have nothing to worry about and therefore have a CHOICE to make. Kudos for finally seeing the light. My goodness it took awhile though.
Any idea why the FDA is yet to approve the vaccine, especially since they are funded by Phizer and others?
+1
Well, somewhat sadly but nonetheless accurate, we have brought extended silence to this thread and effectively laid to rest the notion that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Hip and his clown posse w bro have left the scene, running for cover elsewhere.
Kudos to those who joined together in bringing a bit of reality to those who need it.
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PandemicoftheUnhealthy
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So your main argument is unhealthy, unvaccinated people are the ones dying/hospitalized. But that doesn’t refute the thread title or anything else. A huge % of Americans are unhealthy. If they got unvaccinated they’d improved their odds by 10-15 times and help rein in an infectious virus. Seems like a good deal to me over quibbling whether some healthy people get the shot too….
kibitzer wrote:
Lead Foil Hat XVI wrote:
That's funny, because two of the highest vaxed states have the highest rates of hospitalization. 1)The tableau you added is not out of date--note that it's labeled as "updated" on 10/2--but it shows ABSOLUTE NUMBERS and not *rates*.
2) As others have noted, "hospitalization" can be counted somewhat differently in different locales, but if you wish we can assume the counting is consistent in every state--now DIVIDE EACH OF THOSE ABSOLUTE NUMBERS BY THE STATE'S POPULATION TO COME UP WITH AN ACTUAL *RATE*.
There is actually no correlation between state vax rate and current covid deaths.1) You're conflating two different stats: hospitalizations and deaths.
2) Of course there's a (negative) correlation between the states' vaccination RATES and their current Covid-19 death RATES--it's not -1.0, but it's significant. CORRELATION IS NOT YES-OR-NO, BUT ON A CONTINUUM FROM -1.0 TO +1.0.
If it is still a pandemic, more like a regional epidemic at this point, it...seems to be unaffected by vax rate.
Shall we look at a chart of current death *rate* now?
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/?fbclid=IwAR3j7Vi6ImDjrLWc2TDUycwCCZBRdrSiTKW_qO6_XbI80IoIYQ1uorBcqwc#cases_deathsper100klast7daysIt shows us that over the last seven days Texas, for instance, had four times as many Covid deaths per unit of population as New York, and TEN times the rate of California. But TX is not even one of the worst states; those are WV at 11.1 deaths per 100,000 population, ID 10, AL 9.1, SC 8.4, GA 7.2, and WY 7.1.
Then let's look at a list of vaccination rates by state.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/coronavirus-covid-19/vaccine-trackerWV, the worst state for Covid-19 death *rate*, is also the worst state of the 50 for fully-vaccinated percentage of the population. Second worst is WY; third, ID; fourth, AL; et cetera. Is that a perfect (negative) correlation? No, but it *very* strong.
BOTTOM LINE: VACCINATION RATE IS *CLOSELY* RELATED TO CURRENT COVID-19 DEATH RATE. States with a lower percentage of fully-vaccinated population strongly tend to be states with a higher percentage of Covid-19 dead.
In other words: It's a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
No they don't. You are picking and choosing. Plot deaths for each state vs vaccination rate and you will see it is a fictitious anecdotal assumption being made. There is no statistical significant difference.
Noyankee wrote:
Well, somewhat sadly but nonetheless accurate, we have brought extended silence to this thread and effectively laid to rest the notion that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Hip and his clown posse w bro have left the scene, running for cover elsewhere.
Kudos to those who joined together in bringing a bit of reality to those who need it.
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PandemicoftheUnhealthy
I doubt they have left the scene. Probably just off on a weekend romp to San Fran or some other liberal mecca.
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
So your main argument is unhealthy, unvaccinated people are the ones dying/hospitalized. But that doesn’t refute the thread title or anything else. A huge % of Americans are unhealthy. If they got unvaccinated they’d improved their odds by 10-15 times and help rein in an infectious virus. Seems like a good deal to me over quibbling whether some healthy people get the shot too….
Agreed. However, this is not about vaccines for the unhealthy but, rather, forced vaccines on those who are.
The thread, Pandemic of the unvaccinated is misleading, at best. It is more accurate, to say it is a Pandemic of the Unhealthy.
Lead Foil Hat XVI wrote:
You are picking and choosing. Plot deaths for each state vs vaccination rate and you will see it is a fictitious anecdotal assumption being made. There is no statistical significant difference.
That's a simple lie. You usually do a better job with your falsehoods. Are you okay?
I mean, I took a look at both the maps s/he posted and it's clear there's a correlation there. It's not one-to-one but doesn't have to be, to be a correlation. Don't have the software to "Plot deaths for each state vs vaccination rate" -- maybe someone else does? -- but just looking at the data tells you there's a correlation.
Maybe you just don't know what a correlation is? Lotta people don't.
Lead Foil Hat XVI wrote:
Noyankee wrote:
Well, somewhat sadly but nonetheless accurate, we have brought extended silence to this thread and effectively laid to rest the notion that this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. Hip and his clown posse w bro have left the scene, running for cover elsewhere.
Kudos to those who joined together in bringing a bit of reality to those who need it.
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PandemicoftheUnhealthy
I doubt they have left the scene. Probably just off on a weekend romp to San Fran or some other liberal mecca.
+1
I only vacation to high vax rate places to avoid the involuntary feelings of disgust I get from mere colocalization with the unvax.
That’s what I’m supposed to say right?
Be sure to take care of your mental and physical health (the latter includes vaccination).
https://twitter.com/erictopol/status/1444015638905700353?s=21
Kerr only lost to Hocker because Jakob cut Kerr off in the final 100m...
Slow Race - Jakob gets outkicked; Fast Race - Jakob gets outkicked
Kerr congratulated Hocker even though he was devastated. Jakob just sulked off the track.