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2 years ago 07/21/2022 12:43pm EDT

re: Fat hurts

trumpers should all read this - the effect of nationalistic propaganda on russians. It has brainwashed them. Made them believe ridiculous things. Here, a family has disowned a family member because she reports truth about the war.

Trumpers should read this and ask themselves why they believe the election was stolen and why covid is a hoax and why obama was born in kenya and why libs hate america and why J6 is nothing important.

They believe these things because they are brainwashed just like the russians in this tweet are brainwashed.

Alesya Marakhovskaya, a really great Russian journalist who has left the country, just wrote an impassioned Facebook post about how the war is tearing apart her family.

With her permission, I'm translating into English in this thread. People should see what this looks like. 👇
— Ilya Lozovsky (@ichbinilya) July 20, 2022

Tweet:twitter.com/ichbinilya/status/15498598...

2 years ago 07/21/2022 12:45pm EDT

re: El Runkin

El Runkin wrote:
Academic Discussion wrote:
Oh so it's okay to be cruel and nasty towards average Americans who live in Red counties (they deserve it after all) but it's not okay to hurt the feelings of our dear leader?
Being harsh and insulting is part of being an American. It's how business is done. It's how politics are done. America is a society built on competition. Anyone who doesn't like American culture should leave and go live in some lame country, like Switzerland or something.

So you think being an American means being insulting, cruel, and nasty?

You are a bad American.

2 years ago 07/21/2022 12:53pm EDT

re: carmine9

carmine9 wrote:
agip wrote:
I'd say 'science changes' and 'clearly being vaccinated improves your odds of not being sick or dying of covid a whole heck of a lot so keep the needles jabbing.'
But yes, I'm sure we all are disappointed that the vaccines don't do better at preventing infections. Maybe the next gen of vaccinations due in the fall will do better.
No idea why 'conservatives' still rail against vaccinations despite vaccines' proven ability to keep people from being severely ill or dying.
But again, that kind of attitude is exactly why mortality rates are so high in Trumplandia, compared to Bidenland. Just the way the m'agas think. That's why they die so often.
What makes you think "being vaccinated improves your odds of not being sick or dying of covid a whole heck of a lot"?

16x

2 years ago 07/21/2022 12:58pm EDT

re: Fat hurts

Fat hurts wrote:
El Runkin wrote:
Being harsh and insulting is part of being an American. It's how business is done. It's how politics are done. America is a society built on competition. Anyone who doesn't like American culture should leave and go live in some lame country, like Switzerland or something.
So you think being an American means being insulting, cruel, and nasty?
You are a bad American.

I think being harsh and insulting is a significant part of American culture, certainly with respect to business and politics, but in all aspects of day to day life. That is pretty much a fact, and I can't see how you are denying it, if that is what you are doing.

How am I a bad American? WTF? I work hard, pay taxes, was in the military, own a house, patriotic. How am I a bad American? Jesus goddam Christ, watch your unsupportable aspersions. In America, we bash when we have facts to support the bash, not the other way around.

2 years ago 07/21/2022 1:05pm EDT

re: nonequals

nonequals wrote:
El Runkin wrote:
Being harsh and insulting is part of being an American. It's how business is done. It's how politics are done. America is a society built on competition. Anyone who doesn't like American culture should leave and go live in some lame country, like Switzerland or something.
Between global warming, COVID vaccines (or "vaccines"), and what makes a country "great," the last page or so of posts might set a new record for the most concentrated, yet diverse, cluster of idiotic posts in LRC history !!! Congrats to all who contributed !!

There is no need to get all snarky. Save the snark for moments when it is needed. This is not one of them. I'll tell you when to snark. You seem to have no concept of when it is part of good posting. None. Like you are a B-swimmer in an A-list pool. Fish out of water.

2 years ago 07/21/2022 1:07pm EDT

re: Fat hurts

Fat hurts wrote:
Floundering wrote:
I could see your point if we were leading the world in carbon emissions per capita, but it doesn’t seem like that’s the case:
Link:www.statista.com/statistics/270508/co2...
China likes to say the same thing you do: “well you’re also bad so how dare you criticize us.”
No country is perfect. When we are actively decreasing our carbon emissions and they are actively increasing theirs, it’s perfectly reasonable to call China out.
They tried to do the same thing when we called them out for their internment camps and treatment of the Uighurs: “Oh america you hush, you had slaves and continue to have racial issues in your country. How dare you talk about us?!” That’s a ridiculous thought process.
Right. Both the US and China are bad. We do emit more than China on a per capita basis.
Also, the US has emitted more than China in total and it's still in the atmosphere.
Also, a lot of China's emissions growth is due to all the manufacturing that we have outsourced to China. So we pay for them to emit more to make stuff and send it back to us.
It is foolish to criticize others while we still haven't cleaned up our act and seem to have no intention of taking the problem seriously.

We can agree to disagree on this. I have no problem pointing out that if the US does everything to stop emissions, carbon emissions will still rise by 2030 and going forward because of China and India. Yet this administration wants us to declare a climate emergency that will negatively impact people right now.

mediaite.com

CNBC Host Presses Buttigieg in Tense Clash on WH Green Energy Push: ‘How Do You Declare a Climate Crisis in the Middle of an Actual Weather Crisis?’

@mediaite

Pete Buttigieg was pressed on the White House's "victory lap" on gas prices as well as the potential downside of a green energy push during a heat wave.

Link:www.mediaite.com/tv/cnbc-host-presses-...

2 years ago 07/21/2022 1:13pm EDT

re: El Runkin

El Runkin wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
So you think being an American means being insulting, cruel, and nasty?
You are a bad American.
I think being harsh and insulting is a significant part of American culture, certainly with respect to business and politics, but in all aspects of day to day life. That is pretty much a fact, and I can't see how you are denying it, if that is what you are doing.
How am I a bad American? WTF? I work hard, pay taxes, was in the military, own a house, patriotic. How am I a bad American? Jesus goddam Christ, watch your unsupportable aspersions. In America, we bash when we have facts to support the bash, not the other way around.

If you think being insulting, cruel and nasty should be a part of American culture then you are a bad American.

If you are insulting, cruel, and nasty then you are also a bad person.

2 years ago 07/21/2022 1:19pm EDT

re: Floundering

Floundering wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Right. Both the US and China are bad. We do emit more than China on a per capita basis.
Also, the US has emitted more than China in total and it's still in the atmosphere.
Also, a lot of China's emissions growth is due to all the manufacturing that we have outsourced to China. So we pay for them to emit more to make stuff and send it back to us.
It is foolish to criticize others while we still haven't cleaned up our act and seem to have no intention of taking the problem seriously.
We can agree to disagree on this. I have no problem pointing out that if the US does everything to stop emissions, carbon emissions will still rise by 2030 and going forward because of China and India. Yet this administration wants us to declare a climate emergency that will negatively impact people right now.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnbc-host-presses-buttigieg-in-tense-clash-on-wh-green-energy-push-how-do-you-declare-a-climate-crisis-in-the-middle-of-an-actual-weather-crisis/amp/

We are in a climate emergency and this climate emergency should be declared. Saying anything less would be a lie.

Part of being president means leveling with the American people. But almost all of our leaders from both parties refuse to tell the truth.

2 years ago 07/21/2022 1:34pm EDT

re: El Runkin

El Runkin wrote:
nonequals wrote:
Between global warming, COVID vaccines (or "vaccines"), and what makes a country "great," the last page or so of posts might set a new record for the most concentrated, yet diverse, cluster of idiotic posts in LRC history !!! Congrats to all who contributed !!
There is no need to get all snarky. Save the snark for moments when it is needed. This is not one of them. I'll tell you when to snark. You seem to have no concept of when it is part of good posting. None. Like you are a B-swimmer in an A-list pool. Fish out of water.

The global warming and COVID stuff was straight stupidity, clear as day. Deserving of more than mere snark, arguably. Your country comparison MIGHT have been sarcasm, but if it was, it clearly wasn't nearly funny enough for it to be obvious. Your failure, not mine.

Oh, and you just implied, I guess, that I stand in contrast to the "A pool" posters on this thread. That, too, is straight stupidity.

Clear enough? Snarky enough?

2 years ago 07/21/2022 1:35pm EDT

re: El Runkin

El Runkin wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
So you think being an American means being insulting, cruel, and nasty?
You are a bad American.
I think being harsh and insulting is a significant part of American culture, certainly with respect to business and politics, but in all aspects of day to day life. That is pretty much a fact, and I can't see how you are denying it, if that is what you are doing.
How am I a bad American? WTF? I work hard, pay taxes, was in the military, own a house, patriotic. How am I a bad American? Jesus goddam Christ, watch your unsupportable aspersions. In America, we bash when we have facts to support the bash, not the other way around.

Your last sentence is SO detached from reality it's unreal. But not terribly surprising.

2 years ago 07/21/2022 1:38pm EDT

re: nonequals

Biden has covid. Mild symptoms.

2 years ago 07/21/2022 1:41pm EDT

re: Fat hurts

Fat hurts wrote:
Floundering wrote:
We can agree to disagree on this. I have no problem pointing out that if the US does everything to stop emissions, carbon emissions will still rise by 2030 and going forward because of China and India. Yet this administration wants us to declare a climate emergency that will negatively impact people right now.
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnbc-host-presses-buttigieg-in-tense-clash-on-wh-green-energy-push-how-do-you-declare-a-climate-crisis-in-the-middle-of-an-actual-weather-crisis/amp/
We are in a climate emergency and this climate emergency should be declared. Saying anything less would be a lie.
Part of being president means leveling with the American people. But almost all of our leaders from both parties refuse to tell the truth.

Yet none of the people telling us we are in a climate emergency act as if there is one. I’d rather see someone lead by example. Maybe John Kerry could sell his private jet as a form of symbolism?

2 years ago 07/21/2022 1:57pm EDT

re: Floundering

Floundering wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
We are in a climate emergency and this climate emergency should be declared. Saying anything less would be a lie.
Part of being president means leveling with the American people. But almost all of our leaders from both parties refuse to tell the truth.
Yet none of the people telling us we are in a climate emergency act as if there is one. I’d rather see someone lead by example. Maybe John Kerry could sell his private jet as a form of symbolism?

I agree. Like I said, almost all our leaders from both parties refuse to tell the truth. They are all cowards.

2 years ago 07/21/2022 2:28pm EDT

re: Floundering

Floundering wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
We are in a climate emergency and this climate emergency should be declared. Saying anything less would be a lie.
Part of being president means leveling with the American people. But almost all of our leaders from both parties refuse to tell the truth.
Yet none of the people telling us we are in a climate emergency act as if there is one. I’d rather see someone lead by example. Maybe John Kerry could sell his private jet as a form of symbolism?

I agree with you. Symbolism matters. And, generally speaking, our "leaders" suck.

At the same time, anyone failing to recognize that there is indeed a climate emergency on hand and that we'd all be better off if we greatly accelerated efforts to combat it has their head in the sand (or simply doesn't give a sh!t about the future).

2 years ago 07/21/2022 2:31pm EDT

re: Real Obvi

Real Obvi wrote:
Floundering wrote:
Yet none of the people telling us we are in a climate emergency act as if there is one. I’d rather see someone lead by example. Maybe John Kerry could sell his private jet as a form of symbolism?
I agree with you. Symbolism matters. And, generally speaking, our "leaders" suck.
At the same time, anyone failing to recognize that there is indeed a climate emergency on hand and that we'd all be better off if we greatly accelerated efforts to combat it has their head in the sand (or simply doesn't give a sh!t about the future).

We've been told there is a climate "emergency" for years now. Al Gore said the tipping point was 7 years ago, 2016. Many people are just not buying it now.

2 years ago 07/21/2022 2:34pm EDT

re: Real Obvi

Real Obvi wrote:
Last time I checked, unvaxxed folks are 16x more likely to die of COVID than fully vaxxed folks of the same age.

Unrelated (but maybe not completely?) stat that your post somehow reminded me of:

"Legal induced abortion is markedly safer than childbirth. The risk of death associated with childbirth is approximately 14 times higher than that with abortion."

researchgate.net

Link:www.researchgate.net/publication/22177...

2 years ago 07/21/2022 2:37pm EDT

re: Sally Vixxxxxxxxens

Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:
Real Obvi wrote:
I agree with you. Symbolism matters. And, generally speaking, our "leaders" suck.
At the same time, anyone failing to recognize that there is indeed a climate emergency on hand and that we'd all be better off if we greatly accelerated efforts to combat it has their head in the sand (or simply doesn't give a sh!t about the future).
We've been told there is a climate "emergency" for years now. Al Gore said the tipping point was 7 years ago, 2016. Many people are just not buying it now.

Many people think the earth is flat and the moon landing never happened. It doesn't matter if "many people are just not buying it".

If we had listened to Al Gore 7 years ago we would have an easier time fixing the climate problem. If we had listened to him 20 years ago we would have a MUCH easier time fixing the climate problem.

The fact that we don't listen to the facts now just means that a lot more people will die and the problem will be that much harder to solve.

2 years ago 07/21/2022 2:39pm EDT

re: Fat hurts

Way to go, anti-vaxxers on the left and right. Way 2 go. Killing it here. Literally.

New York health officials and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have confirmed the nation’s first case of polio in nearly a decade, state authorities said Thursday.
Key context: The virus, which can quickly spread among asymptomatic individuals and take up to 30 days for symptoms to appear, was discovered in Rockland County, a suburb of New York City, according to the state Department of Health. It’s the first case the CDC has confirmed in the U.S. since 2013, the state said.

2 years ago 07/21/2022 2:40pm EDT

re: Fat hurts

Fat hurts wrote:
Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:
We've been told there is a climate "emergency" for years now. Al Gore said the tipping point was 7 years ago, 2016. Many people are just not buying it now.
Many people think the earth is flat and the moon landing never happened. It doesn't matter if "many people are just not buying it".
If we had listened to Al Gore 7 years ago we would have an easier time fixing the climate problem. If we had listened to him 20 years ago we would have a MUCH easier time fixing the climate problem.
The fact that we don't listen to the facts now just means that a lot more people will die and the problem will be that much harder to solve.

The US has done a pretty good job reducing emissions. If we don't have China and India on board all of the US's efforts will go to waste.

2 years ago 07/21/2022 2:41pm EDT

re: Sally Vixxxxxxxxens

Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:
Real Obvi wrote:
I agree with you. Symbolism matters. And, generally speaking, our "leaders" suck.
At the same time, anyone failing to recognize that there is indeed a climate emergency on hand and that we'd all be better off if we greatly accelerated efforts to combat it has their head in the sand (or simply doesn't give a sh!t about the future).
We've been told there is a climate "emergency" for years now. Al Gore said the tipping point was 7 years ago, 2016. Many people are just not buying it now.

Al Gore

Therefore it is impossible for human activities to substantially impact the Earth's climate.

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