Both sides!? There's ONLY 1 side to this and it it the RIGHT side. This is an abomination!!! to young women everywhere!
Both sides!? There's ONLY 1 side to this and it it the RIGHT side. This is an abomination!!! to young women everywhere!
Id maniacs wrote:
dwightarm wrote:
They identify as girls.
Yes, but what ARE they? If they aren't biological females, they should not be in the race.
Biological SEX should override "gender", which, apparently can mean whatever you want it to mean.
The State of Connecticut has ruled you can't discriminate against transgenders (which they consider themselves to be), so the State of Connecticut is the authority that has determined those two boys can race as girls; not the Connecticut HSAA.
harry wales wrote:
Id maniacs wrote:
Yes, but what ARE they? If they aren't biological females, they should not be in the race.
Biological SEX should override "gender", which, apparently can mean whatever you want it to mean.
The State of Connecticut has ruled you can't discriminate against transgenders (which they consider themselves to be), so the State of Connecticut is the authority that has determined those two boys can race as girls; not the Connecticut HSAA.
yet in this world of constant judicial injunctions i dont see the hsaa asking for any court protections for girls; They caved in complacency
rojo wrote:
OldGettingOlder wrote:
Two great quotes from a "Let's Run" thread when the CIF announced they would allow transgender athletes to compete as girls. I do not have the usernames but these summarized the situation pretty well:
"The end of women's sports as we know it" - unknown
"The benefit of the few at the expense of the many" - unknown
At some point you have to align political correctness with fairness.
What year was the CIF decision? If after July 29, 2015, give me some love for end of women's sports as we know it.
http://www.letsrun.com/news/2015/07/the-end-of-womens-sports-as-we-know-it-is-caster-semenya-the-favorite-for-gold-for-the-2016-olympics-the-court-of-arbitration-for-sport-suspends-iaafs-hyperandrogenism-regulations/
A lot of people said that. ;-)
Id maniacs wrote:
Yes, but what ARE they? If they aren't biological females, they should not be in the race.
Biological SEX should override "gender", which, apparently can mean whatever you want it to mean.
Hey, don't shoot the messenger, I'm just saying what they feel.
I'm all for trans rights and representation. More power to you, if you are trans.
But I'm not for trans or intersex athletes competing in female athletics, at least not without ensuring their hormones fall within female limits.
We should follow the IAAF rule: anything above 5ng/ml and you are not allowed to compete in the female category.
Hey SJW types, hear me this:
You want equality in everything for everyone? Than take away any and all handicaps. Direct competition. College/equal opportunity hiring? Well I identify as whatever race that gets a break and therefore give me an equality break. It's tough in my condition.
The fallacy of allowing them to compete as women is ruining the exact protections we've set up in society to protect vulnerable people.
Again, it is only sports. It is not life. It is not a metaphor for life. To win is meaningless, to lose is also meaningless. If you teach your kids that winning is the only thing that matters you have missed the entire point of sports and life. Now all you all fvck off about this topic.
bruinboy wrote:
Both sides!? There's ONLY 1 side to this and it it the RIGHT side. This is an abomination!!! to young women everywhere!
get used to it.. wrote:
Again, it is only sports. It is not life. It is not a metaphor for life. To win is meaningless, to lose is also meaningless. If you teach your kids that winning is the only thing that matters you have missed the entire point of sports and life. Now all you all fvck off about this topic.
Then why compete at all? Winning is important. And winning is a big part of life. To suggest otherwise only means one thing... you are a loser. You're like the brat kid who quits when they realize they are going to lose then goes around telling everyone they didn't lose they just quit. That attitude is a disease.
Transgender people have a mental illness and we need to get them help instead of feeding their illness even more.
get used to it.. wrote:
Again, it is only sports. It is not life. It is not a metaphor for life. To win is meaningless, to lose is also meaningless. If you teach your kids that winning is the only thing that matters you have missed the entire point of sports and life. Now all you all fvck off about this topic.
bruinboy wrote:
Both sides!? There's ONLY 1 side to this and it it the RIGHT side. This is an abomination!!! to young women everywhere!
so your saying the real girls who didnt get to win need to just suck it up cause sports are meaningless.....so explain then why your advocating apposite for the trannys? your saying its meaningless and pointless...so why rant and rave that the trannys should be able to go "beat up" on real girls?
if its meaningless then you should tell the trannys that as well, and say "you want to compete against girls, but that is meaningless, you should do nothing cause all things in life are meaningless"
but sadly you are telling real girls that its more important for a tranny to win something meaningless than for them to win something meaningless.....summary of this SJW
"girls are of less value than men"
Everyone's a winner! wrote:
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Transgender people have a mental illness and we need to get them help instead of feeding their illness even more.
Yes, by definition, transgenders have a mental condition.
You found a “cure” for it? You will be a billionaire soon as I don’t believe that there is any “cure” for it, like substantially all conditions.
So in absence of a “cure”, why don’t we simply help them going through life with that condition. It must not be easy. I am sure that sports helps them to somehow cope. I can’t see this being a bad thing. So what if a little girl ended up leaving without a medal because Miller was in the race. Does it matter? The little girl should just focus on improving her PB. That should be reward enough. I didn’t see anybody in that race with sub 10.8 potential. Personal objectives should be what they focus on.
When a grown man thinks he is a 6 year old girl it is a mental disorder, not something to celebrate.
What's the cure for someone who is suicidal and depressed? What's the cure for someone who is skinny but thinks they are fat and won't eat? We treat every other mental illness, this one is no different.
The cure wrote:
What's the cure for someone who is suicidal and depressed? What's the cure for someone who is skinny but thinks they are fat and won't eat? We treat every other mental illness, this one is no different.
I get what you're saying here but I don't know if it's as simple as that for transmen and transwomen. MRI scans show their brains are physiologically different than that of regular cisgender people.
So I don't know how much therapy or whatever would be able to help restructure their brain pathways. Probably would need a lot more than just therapy/pills.
Again, it sounds like this guy found a cure
He should share it with the world
Maybe he will win a. I bel prize or something
Heard about it first on letsrun
Maybe they can compromise and let transgender girls run but increase the distance for them by 10 meters for every meter of the race, so for the 100m a transgender girl would run 110 meters.
nimblenw wrote:
Maybe they can compromise and let transgender girls run but increase the distance for them by 10 meters for every meter of the race, so for the 100m a transgender girl would run 110 meters.
...or just have them have to do one hurdle per every 100 m of the race length.
I remember seeing a College Professor say on TV Sex is a social construct NOT a biological reality and it is not important what you are, but what you IDENTIFY as, I thought the Professor was cuckoo and needed to retire, but this theory is gaining steam asd just allowing boys who Identify as girls into Girls High School Competitions is something I never thought would happen, but I guess the majority of people (At Least in Connecticut) agree with that professor as they voted to allow this to happen.
I am thinking about getting a Parrot and training it to say I identify as a human and then enter it in Track Meets in the High Jump and Long Jump, My friend said he would enter Kangaroos in the Jumping events and another would enter Cheetahs in the sprints, I have a strong feeling the current World Records will tumble.
The CT state class and state open meet records have been rewritten, and no asterisk appears before the name.
Title IX will become Tranny IX.
Women's sports is over.
Trannies will get all of the scholarships - why would any coach want any weak bio-female for any competitive sport?
Can they use the same shower ?