Atantic Region XC - D3

I thought the video was hilarious....I immediately sent it to a bunch of people, including my brother and the Matt DeShane. C Fred is really talented, but you're right, dont talk crap unless you can back it up. I heard rumors at SUNYACS that C Fred wanted to go out in 4:30 and come back in 5:00 to try to break Matt. Don't know if that was true, but it definitely didn't happen. Also, I believe that on the morning of SUNYACS Andy Cloke, then redshirting, tempo-ed the course in 25:0x, beating Matt's winning time that day by a few clicks. Interesting to think about Cloke's potential, but I do not see Matt getting beat this year. He ran 24:53 all alone at the PSU invite, breaking his own course record.

Just look at the fastest time by anyone not named Deshane on that course...25:28. Plus its not like nobodies run that course...they hosted SUNYACs on it last year for example. Thirty-five 35 seconds is a lot of ground to try and make up on a kid that every year gets another 30 seconds faster as the season progresses. Now I dont know what kind of effort Deshane put in for that race but 24:53 is moving for any time in the season. Unless Abdallah is training like a mofo and getting ugly as we speak its going to be very difficult to unseat the Regional Champ this year.

Anyone know if TCNJ ran their complete top 7 at the conn college invite?

http://www.coolrunning.com/results/06/ct/Sep9_2006Co_set1.shtml

no they def didn't

If you think about it, between off-weeks and early in the season when teams sit their top squads out, there's only a couple times, if any that you will actually get a true evalutation of a team before the big conference and regional meets in October and November.

The Geneseo Invitational is gonna give us one hell of a good look at what every team has as there are already 22 teams confirmed for the meet as all the big names will be there except for NYU and TCNJ. Should be one hell of a meet!

I dont think cortland is going to the meet. Could be wrong but it is not on their schedule.

that's funny... all the "big names" except for... NYU, College of New Jersey, and Cortland. oh.... so 3/4s of the top 4 in the region won't be there.

SLU isn't going either. That makes 4 of the top 5 in the region not going.

Stater of the Obvious wrote:

I'm not sure what my reaction is to that video. Part of me wants to laugh. Part of me wants to say how lame it is. But the biggest part of me wants to roll my eyes at all the time these SUNY Cortland runners seemingly have on their hands to make videos instead of running, going to class, doing homework, or studying.

Did you forget that you're talking about SUNY Cortland? They play games all day in their phs. ed. classes. Studying and homework are not requirements to graduate.

Not much going on this weekend...

Cortland, Oneonta @ Oneonta

Brockport, Geneseo @ Brockport

NYU @ NYU

RIT, Fredonia @ Fredonia

NYU- Good leaders up front, good depth.

Geneseo- Although they have raced on nothing but fast courses, they're pack should be unbeatable in the region but there are so many fast individuals in front of them so bump em to 2nd.

TCNJ- Tradition of top 3 lives

Cortland- Get national bid but will have to wait one more year for top 3. sorry cloke. Moran works them hard, but they hang on all season at the top of their game, where ever they are at Lehigh, expect no better and no worse.

SLU- Although every year they race too hard and die at the end, they just seem too tough. One of top 2 get injured, they drop big time, because the freshman are not gonna hang on.

Plattsburgh- Peaks runners year after year perfectly for this meet even though there is a new coach there every time you turn your head. Lynch will send DeShane out with a possible team invite to the dance if SLU chokes again, Asher runs what hes capable of and the young guns get to where they should be.

RIT- good team, inconsistent at best

Brockport- Needs to pull together and get a pack in order to break into top 5

Rochester

Oneonta

Women- don't know as much about, but will give my two cents

Geneseo- No stopping returning depth

TCNJ- solid

Ithaca- lost twins, but private school with every major brings in recruits.

Plattsburgh- Surprise, leads to

Busby's and Wiszowaty's reign of terror on the nation in 07.

Cortland- Comes together nicely, needs more depth.

SLU- Stays the same all season.

Brockport- Teri Wilson duals wiszowaty and griggs in gutsy race, but gets 3rd, leads team to good finish.

RIT

Fredonia

Rochester

Men Individuals:

DeShane

Gaudette

Asher

Stevens

Burdick

Lowe

Donahoe

nice post

wow. its really hard to say. most will make it to the top 5

Plattsburgh is gonna be nowhere near the top 5 at Regionals this year. They have a great 1-2 punch in Deshane and Asher but after that they are gonna struggle.

They lost Cartwright and their pack hasnt been even close to near where it needs to be to repeat their performance from last year.

Plattsburgh is gonna be back down with Ithaca, Oneonta, Fredonia, RPI, and Oswego competing for 10th place or there abouts.

Ithaca used to be a big contender, they seem to be down the last few years. Anyone know about their team?

SUNYAC Fan wrote:

Plattsburgh is gonna be nowhere near the top 5 at Regionals this year. They have a great 1-2 punch in Deshane and Asher but after that they are gonna struggle.

They lost Cartwright and their pack hasnt been even close to near where it needs to be to repeat their performance from last year.

Plattsburgh is gonna be back down with Ithaca, Oneonta, Fredonia, RPI, and Oswego competing for 10th place or there abouts.

Yeah it looks like that now but thats what everyone always says about Plattsburgh in the first couple weeks. Cartwright wasn't even in their top 5 last year. Other than that a quick look at the results shows everyone else in there top 5 this year who actually ran last weekend was 17-64 seconds faster than last year at the same race. Last year they ended up surprising people (as usual) with a 6th place finish at regionals if memory serves me correctly. But hey maybe they just keep getting lucky every year at regionals when they jump 3-4 spots up in the rankings. Plus I gotta say that the pack time does suck for Plattsburgh but a lot of teams with a guy running in the 24's this early in the year is going to have a tough go with getting a decent pack time. Remember folks theres a llooonnnggg ways to go before November 11th.

Not a Cortland runner. Not the one who made the video. Don't know anyone on the Cortland team.

Just someone trying to make a point that college students have plenty of time to do things other than run, go to class, do homework, or study.

But nice try, Ass.

Just to be fair the same could be said about lets say... Geneseo runners who just use their time to post on letsrun about how they are superior to Cortland as runners and as a school. But lets talk about racing! 5 weeks till SUNYAC's 2 months until the regional showdown!