This thread was originally titled, "Incredible development in the $612,000 Transcon Goodge run, currently ongoing" but the new title is more descriptive. The description of the run is here.
I'm sure Goodge is fearful of you incompetent trolls who couldn't even download his public Strava data despite over 100 pages of you trying and still failing.
Looks like letsrun trolls are living rent free in your mind. You keep coming back.
I'm sure Goodge is fearful of you incompetent trolls who couldn't even download his public Strava data despite over 100 pages of you trying and still failing.
Looks like letsrun trolls are living rent free in your mind. You keep coming back.
I'm not the one watching all of Goodge's Instagram stories and reading every social media post and comment he makes like you trolls are doing
Looks like there was a GPS issue for that first mile. Interestingly though his HR was over 150 for a slow 2.5mile run. Back on the normal HR now and confirms WCs analysis that the HR only goes south when doing the transcon type runs. All other times its in the right zone.
It's amazing just how predictable this is. No way can there be an innocent explanation.
Don't you think with how open that Goodge has been in providing the full data on every single one of his runs on Strava and how wrist watch heart rate sensors easily give nonsense numbers if you do something as simple as loosening your watch strap when your arms swell up during long multi-days, that Goodge is telling the truth?
It's amazing just how predictable this is. No way can there be an innocent explanation.
Don't you think with how open that Goodge has been in providing the full data on every single one of his runs on Strava and how wrist watch heart rate sensors easily give nonsense numbers if you do something as simple as loosening your watch strap when your arms swell up during long multi-days, that Goodge is telling the truth?
that strava data was likely faked much like large chunks of his run.
unsurprisingly there is still no sign of the .gpx files from the watch.
that strava data was likely faked much like large chunks of his run.
unsurprisingly there is still no sign of the .gpx files from the watch.
After all this time and this many pages, you still don't realize that everything inside the .GPX files are on Goodge's Strava? Do you not understand what the contents of a GPX file are? I could easily give you a GPX file, I choose not to.
There is simply no sense or logic to go out so fast. Vomiting by half-way he reports - little wonder with those numbers.
Heart rate is perfect throughout though, peaking at 172 for mile 9 in 9:16, declining as he slowed to a shuffle in the latter stages, but still right where it should be. ie 125bpm for his 100th mile in 13:23 and 108 for the next which took 17:54. Upon which time he dropped out some 4 hrs 20 mins early.
that strava data was likely faked much like large chunks of his run.
unsurprisingly there is still no sign of the .gpx files from the watch.
After all this time and this many pages, you still don't realize that everything inside the .GPX files are on Goodge's Strava? Do you not understand what the contents of a GPX file are? I could easily give you a GPX file, I choose not to.
if the .gpx files haven’t been altered then why not share them? unless of course you have something to hide.
There is simply no sense or logic to go out so fast. Vomiting by half-way he reports - little wonder with those numbers.
Heart rate is perfect throughout though, peaking at 172 for mile 9 in 9:16, declining as he slowed to a shuffle in the latter stages, but still right where it should be. ie 125bpm for his 100th mile in 13:23 and 108 for the next which took 17:54. Upon which time he dropped out some 4 hrs 20 mins early.
After all this time and this many pages, you still don't realize that everything inside the .GPX files are on Goodge's Strava? Do you not understand what the contents of a GPX file are? I could easily give you a GPX file, I choose not to.
if the .gpx files haven’t been altered then why not share them? unless of course you have something to hide.
I do have something to hide! I'm hiding my laughter that you still keep begging me for the files when 2 others in this thread already gave detailed answers on how to do it. Even with the instructions presented right in front of you, you still keep begging me.
if the .gpx files haven’t been altered then why not share them? unless of course you have something to hide.
I do have something to hide! I'm hiding my laughter that you still keep begging me for the files when 2 others in this thread already gave detailed answers on how to do it. Even with the instructions presented right in front of you, you still keep begging me.
I don’t want the stuff you fudged for Strava. I want the raw watch data to see if it’s been altered. there’s a difference. you know that, you even said you could provide it but are choosing not to.
There is simply no sense or logic to go out so fast. Vomiting by half-way he reports - little wonder with those numbers.
Heart rate is perfect throughout though, peaking at 172 for mile 9 in 9:16, declining as he slowed to a shuffle in the latter stages, but still right where it should be. ie 125bpm for his 100th mile in 13:23 and 108 for the next which took 17:54. Upon which time he dropped out some 4 hrs 20 mins early.
How far did he get in 24 hours?
He has been credited with 100.21 miles, which ties him Kim Hooper-Stanley, an F60-69.
But I will remind you of this somewhat more flattering headline: Ultra-endurance Athlete Robbie Balenger Raced a Tesla Model 3 ... And Won
The reason this is important, is that Balenger and Goodge's patterns of low heart-rates in unsanctionned multidays all started with RB's 2019 Transcon. But 90% of this days there are off a super low HR and physiologically impossible.
So, we have Sneakers saying the reason for WGs low HR's is that his wrist swells... it's progress, in that at least Sneakers is trying to proffer a reason which has got nothing to do with downloading data. We have WG blaming "a sh*tty watch" [for which he can only mean both Coros and Garmin as he used both]. So that's two suggestions, but these patterns are overwhelming, and have gone on for far too long.
These two athletes produce:
Poor running in normal races with massive blow-ups and perfect heart rates.
Perfect running in private, unsanctionned GoFundMe raisers, with negative splits and no credible pulse. [Or of course a tracker for WG at Transcon].
This is a random example from RB's Transcon in Indiana, to show his super low rates there. (It occurs on around 65 of the 75 days)
The day is a 21 minute negative split. Early on he is running miles like:
11:26 at 154bpm 10:48 at 158 11:41 at 158 13:50 at 143
But after the 16th mile his rate crashes and he rapidly accelerates for the rest of the day.
Here are some later splits:
9:43 at 115 10:05 at 111 10:25 at 112 10:28 at 109 10:31 at 105 for the 46th at penultimate mile of the day.
Those who try to dismiss this as meaningless, or "the public will never understand", are simply deflecting, and to place the blame on poor monitors has been discounted.
The only way the community can win against the WG and RBs of the world is to continue to hold them to account:
1) We can see what you're doing. 2) We will continue to call it out if you persist. 3) Just race and behave properly, like RB has at this Sri Chinmoy 24hr, and WG did at MDS: disastrous runs littered with chaos, but at a credible, correct pulse.
In other words, just be like the rest of us! Is that really so much to ask?
You've had your fun with the 15,000k of perfect runs off low HRs at about six events over 4.3 years, but enough is enough, time to find another way to keep your sponsors happy.
He has been credited with 100.21 miles, which ties him Kim Hooper-Stanley, an F60-69.
But I will remind you of this somewhat more flattering headline: Ultra-endurance Athlete Robbie Balenger Raced a Tesla Model 3 ... And Won
The reason this is important, is that Balenger and Goodge's patterns of low heart-rates in unsanctionned multidays all started with RB's 2019 Transcon. But 90% of this days there are off a super low HR and physiologically impossible.
So, we have Sneakers saying the reason for WGs low HR's is that his wrist swells... it's progress, in that at least Sneakers is trying to proffer a reason which has got nothing to do with downloading data. We have WG blaming "a sh*tty watch" [for which he can only mean both Coros and Garmin as he used both]. So that's two suggestions, but these patterns are overwhelming, and have gone on for far too long.
100 miles in 19:40 is nothing special. In a 24 hour race under good conditions it's actually pretty bad for a guy under 50. I was not able to follow this Trans Con scam because I was on a trip myself. But from the beginning Balenger and Goodge looked super sketchy. Just these super good looking types with no ultrarunning skills. If you know ultrarunning you can tell.
He has been credited with 100.21 miles, which ties him Kim Hooper-Stanley, an F60-69.
But I will remind you of this somewhat more flattering headline: Ultra-endurance Athlete Robbie Balenger Raced a Tesla Model 3 ... And Won
The reason this is important, is that Balenger and Goodge's patterns of low heart-rates in unsanctionned multidays all started with RB's 2019 Transcon. But 90% of this days there are off a super low HR and physiologically impossible.
So, we have Sneakers saying the reason for WGs low HR's is that his wrist swells... it's progress, in that at least Sneakers is trying to proffer a reason which has got nothing to do with downloading data. We have WG blaming "a sh*tty watch" [for which he can only mean both Coros and Garmin as he used both]. So that's two suggestions, but these patterns are overwhelming, and have gone on for far too long.
100 miles in 19:40 is nothing special. In a 24 hour race under good conditions it's actually pretty bad for a guy under 50. I was not able to follow this Trans Con scam because I was on a trip myself. But from the beginning Balenger and Goodge looked super sketchy. Just these super good looking types with no ultrarunning skills. If you know ultrarunning you can tell.
Yes, interesting to see the quality of the winner Michael Degeorge in comparison - a standard light years apart. Here are his 40k splits:
3:06 3:38 3:48 4:06 4:31 And then 2:46 for the last 25k for a nice acceleration.
HR perfect throughout of course, spiking at 176, average 146.
After 80k DeGeorge has taken an hour out of Balenger and is blinkers on, ready for 145 more. Balenger is already nauseous, vomiting and on the ropes.
When I sense suspicious people doing are running scam I always look at their race results. Usually the big scammers have almost nothing to show and that is a big red flag. I have been involved in exposing a bunch of these running scammers in the last 20 years, so I know I thing or two about this.
When I sense suspicious people doing are running scam I always look at their race results. Usually the big scammers have almost nothing to show and that is a big red flag. I have been involved in exposing a bunch of these running scammers in the last 20 years, so I know I thing or two about this.
It's the Sri Chinmoy 24 hour run this past weekend. Yes, Balenger and Goodge are nondescript, bordering on dire in normal ultraracing, but peel off outstanding runs in stuff they invent on their own [like "racing a Tesla"].
Goodge ran 35 hours at Marathon des Sables to the winner's 18, for instance; losing to a W45 4 hour marathoner by 5 hours. But at Transcon, his second half was the 6th quickest of all time, 25 days, out of about 1,000 who have tried. And all off a heart rate of around 110 [instead of the expected 135], with no tracker, because, in his words, "I didn't want to be found."
things to note: The day is a 21 minute negative split. Early on he is running miles like: 11:26 at 154bpm 10:48 at 158 11:41 at 158 13:50 at 143 But after the 16th mile his rate crashes and he rapidly accelerates for the rest of the day. Here are some later splits: 9:43 at 115 10:05 at 111 10:25 at 112 10:28 at 109 10:31 at 105 for the 46th at penultimate mile of the day.
It took a fair bit of internet sleuthing, but I finally found a picture of Sneakers On The Ground, from his LinkedIn profile. He's actually better looking than I imaged he would be.
When I sense suspicious people doing are running scam I always look at their race results. Usually the big scammers have almost nothing to show and that is a big red flag. I have been involved in exposing a bunch of these running scammers in the last 20 years, so I know I thing or two about this.
Where you claimed to "have been involved" in past investigations, you meant to write you just took credit for the work I did.
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