"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

Karma Police wrote:

If you are typical of the anti-vaxxers, the lot of you are dangerous. Ill-educated and pushing agendas.

And republican lawmakers love them for it. They are so gullible and largely uneducated.

SurverySays wrote:

Karma Police wrote:

If you are typical of the anti-vaxxers, the lot of you are dangerous. Ill-educated and pushing agendas.

And republican lawmakers love them for it. They are so gullible and largely uneducated.

Well:

You have to be a special kind of stupid to be an anti-vaxxer, and it looks like the republican party wants to wear this like a badge of honor. Makes sense.

Karma Police wrote:

Noyankee wrote:

It’s people like you, who claim to be from a once great nation like Australia, who have turned that country into a third World prison, and people like me who are trying to save it.

Sure buddy.

So what is life like in lockdown? I took the dog for a 1 hour walk around my harbourside suburb this morning (with the wife), took my 17yo training during my lunchbreak, bought a bottle of wine on the way home, and the others are out collecting pizza for dinner.

3rd world prison right? What exactly am I missing?

You are clueless dude, and digging a deeper hole every time you post.

How are you going to "save" Australia from where you are?

This is like playing with small children.

I think we just need to agree that NY is a troll and to no longer give that person the responses that s/he, like any troll, craves.

I'm not sure that NY is just another iteration of SV--the writing styles seem somewhat different--but the repeating of "facts" that have been *shown* to be false is certainly of a piece with SV's m.o. So:

Just as I no longer respond to any Covid-related post by SV or DG or TU, I will not respond to any by NY, and I urge others to do the same. Starve a troll today!

HA! That’s great. Ten you can just take it.

All the bs you’ve said has not proved my point wrong by any stretch of the imagination.

Healthy, low risk people, vaxxed or unvaxxed, have virtually no chance of being hospitalized over Covid.

Everything else you fools say is fluff to feed your addiction.

Prove me wrong. Talk is cheap.

Free to not-be.

Give me liberty or ....wait, how's that go again?

Maybe I should think this through....

lol

It’s such an easy choice that even the dude who claims he’s the only one walking his dog freely in Australia whenever he feels like (what luck! We have the Prime Minister here) can get it.

1. Low risk people have no chance of being hospitalized.

And

2. Natural immunity is better than forced therapy or your fake vaz

Therefore,

3. Low risk people should not take this vax

I’m sorry you are addicts. I get it. I’ve known addicts and the very last thing they want to hear is that they are addicticted to something beyond their control.

Help is on the way.

#Floridasays

Incidentally, I was having a beer w a Johnson n Johnson guy last night who said the same thing. They are putting an addictive agent in the MRNA vaccines.

It’s obvious at this point.

Noyankee wrote:

HA! That’s great. Ten you can just take it.

All the bs you’ve said has not proved my point wrong by any stretch of the imagination.

Healthy, low risk people, vaxxed or unvaxxed, have virtually no chance of being hospitalized over Covid.

Everything else you fools say is fluff to feed your addiction.

Prove me wrong. Talk is cheap.

Most healthy people don't take it to protect themselves from getting covid. They take it to protect others who are more vulnerable from getting it from them. One day you will grasp that you are also responsible for others, but maybe you need some people closer to you to care for first.

Noyankee wrote:

Incidentally, I was having a beer w a Johnson n Johnson guy last night who said the same thing. They are putting an addictive agent in the MRNA vaccines..

A "Johnson n Johnson guy?" he he he he. You know what? I spoke with former president Trump this morning and he told me to tell you that you are late on your reelection donation.

Oh boy. Can of worms. Slippery slopes. All of these politicians pushing conspiracy theories resulting in deaths are about to start feeling it.

So we got mandates and consequences for irresponsible politicians and lawmakers? Excellent.

The US had many places that were nearly wide open since Summer 2020. The places in the US with the highest death rates in the last few waves were usually places with limited restrictions or places with crowded multi family housing (eg poor areas of LA).

Even a toy SEIR model will show that if you’re under the herd immunity threshold you can easily have an exponential outbreak, especially with a VERY contagious virus like Delta, but once you’re above the threshold, things turn around just as quickly.

The fact that you’re talking about “diminishing returns” when the entire trajectory of an outbreak hinges on R-t being above or below 1 shows you don’t have any idea what you’re talking about! A few percentage points of vax can make a big different if it keeps R-t below 1!

Lastly, complacency is bad. Remember when cases were super low last March at like 40% vax? Then delta came and 40% wasn’t enough. Conditions can change. Winter is going to come. God forbid we get a more infectious variant. Etc. why not be prepared? The vaccine is cheap, safe, effective, and very low-effort. More population immunity is the obvious choice — we should not be lulled into complacency again!

2600 broscience wrote:

Man Overboard wrote:

Yep. It's a pandemic of the vaccinated, confirmed. Spreading the virus asymptomatically to the vulnerable.

Becoming clearer that mRNA vaccines provide a degree of protection from infection for about....10 weeks.

What's the over/under for when Harambe/2600bro/Flagpole finally acknowledge this? January 2022 is my guess.

That's very optimistic. People with this level of narcissism back themselves further and further into a corner until eventually they just give up on a world that doesn't understand their true genius.

Lol you guys can keep patting yourselves on the back for making stuff up but the data explicitly contradicts this kind of antivaxx wishful thinking.

Also, there is no evidence of waning against severe disease anywhere. You guys are praying for the vaccine to fail to validate your psychopathic addiction to dogma.

Keep spinning your wheels though. I enjoy this thread getting ever longer with the denier-fearmonger’s inane babbling.

I love the "forcing more vaccinations is bad" stance, when you look at the areas with higher vaccination rate in the US, Europe, and Asia and their death rate is way better, their hospitalization rate is better, and they're more confidently talking about "living with the virus." This is what we all want, yet the anti-vaxxers are insistent on a constant drone of unnecessary death and hospitalization among middle-aged people.

Pandemic of the Unvaccinated, confirmed:

Age-adjusted population-based rates of COVID-19-associated hospitalizations among unvaccinated and fully vaccinated adults aged ≥18 years admitted January 24–July 24, 2021, from 13 states. Full preprint:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.27.21262356v1

≥18 years admitted January 24–July 24, 2021, from 13 states, cumulative:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2021/08/29/2021.08.27.21262356/F2/graphic-12.large.jpg

≥18 years admitted January 24–July 24, 2021, from 13 states, by week of admission:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2021/08/29/2021.08.27.21262356/F2/graphic-13.large.jpg

Would love to hear what you antivaxx clowns have to refute this raw data. K thx byyyye

Rexing Dempsey 2003 wrote:

Pandemic of the Unvaccinated, confirmed:

Age-adjusted population-based rates of COVID-19-associated hospitalizations among unvaccinated and fully vaccinated adults aged ≥18 years admitted January 24–July 24, 2021, from 13 states. Full preprint:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.27.21262356v1

≥18 years admitted January 24–July 24, 2021, from 13 states, cumulative:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2021/08/29/2021.08.27.21262356/F2/graphic-12.large.jpg

≥18 years admitted January 24–July 24, 2021, from 13 states, by week of admission:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/medrxiv/early/2021/08/29/2021.08.27.21262356/F2/graphic-13.large.jpg

Would love to hear what you antivaxx clowns have to refute this raw data. K thx byyyye

Observation status is an old trick used by hospitals to distort the true number of admissions.

Try again.

Changing the subject is an old trick used by people who don't have any data to back up their inane views.

Noyankee wrote:

1. Low risk people have no chance of being hospitalized.

And

2. Natural immunity is better than forced therapy or your fake vaz

Therefore,

3. Low risk people should not take this vax

#Floridasays

1. It's not about YOU. It's about the potential for YOU to give it to a HIGH RISK Person who can end up in the hospital whether or not they are vaxxed

2. This has not been proven

3. See #1

Harambe wrote:

Lastly, complacency is bad. Remember when cases were super low last March at like 40% vax? Then delta came and 40% wasn’t enough. Conditions can change. Winter is going to come. God forbid we get a more infectious variant. Etc. why not be prepared? The vaccine is cheap, safe, effective, and very low-effort. More population immunity is the obvious choice — we should not be lulled into complacency again!

We are going to have another round of infections come Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Changing the subject is an old trick used by people who don't have any data to back up their inane views.

"No, but see, it was a conspiracy among the hospitals in those thirteen states! They all got together and decided they would only use 'observation' status with unvaccinated people! You know, so the 'hospitalization' stats would make people who didn't want the jab look bad! It was a conspiracy! And they got all the thousands of people involved to stay perfectly quiet about it! Only I, DanM, was able to suss it out!

"And I hate wearing a mask! And I don't want to be vaccinated! And get out of here with that 'do something for others' stuff! What did *they* ever do for *me*?

"And MAGAKAG!"

This is the drug Merck claims reduces risk of hospitalization and death by 50% - interim time point for Ph3 trial with 775 patients. Interesting that it's a RNA polymerase inhibitor after all the discussion of protease inhibitors yesterday on LRC :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molnupiravir

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-and-ridgebacks-investigational-oral-antiviral-molnupiravir-reduced-the-risk-of-hospitalization-or-death-by-approximately-50-percent-compared-to-placebo-for-patients-with-mild-or-moderat/