Her testimony has not been refuted. You haven't even watched it.
Remember, we have more hearings after the July 4th break. And the last one will be in prime time.
Hutchinson is not the star witness. This is building up. There is a lot more to come.
It wasn't refuted in the hearing because that's not the committee's purpose. It has been refuted in the media by all the people who could corroborate her story.
Refuted in the media?
Aren't you one of those guys always saying not to trust the media?
You should watch the hearing and decide for yourself if her testimony, taken in full, is credible.
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The numbers are soft because of low sample numbers, but the core:
"Since 1994, in every election in which Republicans have led on the generic ballot, they have gained seats in both the House and the Senate — in each case, in numbers that would be enough to flip each chamber in 2022. The inverse is not true for Democrats. Every election that was about even or with a slight Democratic edge has been more or less status quo — i.e., only single digits’ worth of House seats changing hands and usually fewer than two Senate seats."
538 is mixed on gerrymander '22. I see the D+6 you see, but if you look below that, 538 says the map is R+3 or R+4 adjusting for a few things.
What I understand about gerrymandering is that the Rs have been doing it hardcore for many cycles while the Ds have only just started hardcore gerrymandering. So the Rs already have done it...so they don't have much to gain from further gerrymanders. Whereas the Ds, having decided to fight fire with fire, are taking some seats back. But the R lead is hard to catch, esp when combined with the D distate for living in the same district as Trumpists. Lots of self-sorting going on obviously.
If this "committee" is truly seeking out the truth, should they not allow for cross-examination or rebuttal? That seems very sensible. To allow witnesses to offer up testimony without cross-examination seems absurd. You might as well have Joy Reid or Rachel Maddow testifying in this sham hearing.
The secret service has already said she's lying....I'm wondering if this lady was the leaker who plagued Trump for 4 years...informing the media about his phone calls etc.
The secret service has not said she's lying. Nobody says she was anything but truthful in reporting the story as it was told to her.
Hutchinson did not work in the West Wing for 4 years. She started working there in 2020 when Mark Meadows became chief of staff. She had previously worked for Ted Cruz and Steve Scalise.
For the record, no one is denying the core revelations.
Trump was told the crowd was armed. It was so obvious they were armed that Trump wanted the metal detectors taken down so the armed folks could come into the rally zone.
Trump then told the armed mob to go to the capitol and fight like hell. KNOWING THEY WERE ARMED.
Trump really wanted to join the armed mob as it sacked the capitol building.
Trump was generally in favor of the riot and the attempted assassination of the vice president of the united states. He wanted it to proceed and did little to stop it.
That's what we got here, and to my knowledge no one is denying any of it.
It was the very definition of a coup and no one is denying it.
You really think GA is only 50/50 ? That one seems to me more like 75/25 in favor.
As I understand it, the GA thing is actually a pretty tough case to prove. 50/50 seems about right.
As discussed and alluded to previously, if someone knew nothing about the prosecution of non-violent crimes in the U.S. and had only Trump to go by, one would understandably assume that there were about a half dozen people in prison for it across the country (if that).
And with the vast majority of other public figures, one could reach the defensible and compassionate conclusion that the guy MUST not be as bad as he appears.
But since it's Trump, probably THE most transparent (-ly bad) person/public official in the world, anyone not in the cult KNOWS he's a criminal POS.
So.....this non-lawyer has a REALLY easy time coming to the conclusion that our legal system - for all it's sophistication and fine-tuning by smart people for centuries - still REALLY sucks sh** in some serious ways.
For the record, it was the Proud Boys who first broke through the barricade at the Peace Circle. This is what allowed the crowd to proceed toward the Capitol building.
Then it was another Proud Boy who first broke the window at the Capitol and let people in, who then opened the door.
So Proud Boys were responsible for both the initial barricade breach and the initial breach of the Capitol building itself.
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Patriotic Americans still laughing loudly about the insurrection
“Patriotic Americans are still laughing loudly about the insurrection”
Why?
It failed miserably in its goal.
Two of your comrades died. Mike Pence, Nancy Pelosi etc walked away unharmed.
At least 874 of your comrades have been charged and most and ratting on each other. Trump hasn’t pardoned them. The money he raised for the election fraud fund was pocketed.
What the hell are you laughing about? You were taken for a ride by a billionaire New York grifter.
It wasn't refuted in the hearing because that's not the committee's purpose. It has been refuted in the media by all the people who could corroborate her story.
Refuted in the media?
Aren't you one of those guys always saying not to trust the media?
You should watch the hearing and decide for yourself if her testimony, taken in full, is credible.
Good lord...
She claimed to know things she did not see. The people that actually saw these things disagree with her testimony.
She's lying.
This is exactly why hearsay isn't admissible in a real court.
The sole purpose of these hearings is to rile up the morons.
Rather telling that you're breathlessly bouncing on the edge of your seat.
“Patriotic Americans are still laughing loudly about the insurrection”
Why?
It failed miserably in its goal.
Two of your comrades died. Mike Pence, Nancy Pelosi etc walked away unharmed.
At least 874 of your comrades have been charged and most and ratting on each other. Trump hasn’t pardoned them. The money he raised for the election fraud fund was pocketed.
What the hell are you laughing about? You were taken for a ride by a billionaire New York grifter.
Oh come on. MOST of those 874 must be Antifa and FBI agents, RIGHT ??
I wonder if Trump merchandise revenue got a huge bump when all those radical leftists and federal agents had to buy ALL of those Trump hats and flags and such for the fake insurrection? A silver lining for Trump, I guess.
“Patriotic Americans are still laughing loudly about the insurrection”
Why?
It failed miserably in its goal.
Two of your comrades died. Mike Pence, Nancy Pelosi etc walked away unharmed.
At least 874 of your comrades have been charged and most and ratting on each other. Trump hasn’t pardoned them. The money he raised for the election fraud fund was pocketed.
What the hell are you laughing about? You were taken for a ride by a billionaire New York grifter.
Oh come on. MOST of those 874 must be Antifa and FBI agents, RIGHT ??
I wonder if Trump merchandise revenue got a huge bump when all those radical leftists and federal agents had to buy ALL of those Trump hats and flags and such for the fake insurrection? A silver lining for Trump, I guess.
Slightly more seriously, just another reminder of the hypocritical idiocy. "We're Rs, we're Trumpers, we're super patriotic Americans, and we're PRO LAW ENFORCEMENT !!!"
EXCEPT......for when Trump is, with no basis whatsoever, mocking/criticizing/accusing federal agents about stuff. Or, nearly 200 officers are injured by the Trump mob. Or, when we want to concoct a f***** absurd conspiracy theory about undercover FBI agents leading (and perhaps even constituting most of?) the mob.
Let me see if I have this right. Of the 2500 protesters, only 3 were found to have guns. So 99.9% did not have guns but had flags. Only 3 had guns. And you want to call this an insurrection??? Name one other insurrection where 99% had flags and no guns. LOL. You Libs are idiots!
The steering wheel story is hearsay. That much is true.
But it's only a lie if she knowingly recounted the story incorrectly.
As long as she passed on what she was told, she told the truth.
Cheney knew it wasn't true. She marched her out there to testify anyway because she has no interest in the truth.
The committee is a joke.
At this point, nobody says the story itself is untrue. The essential detail that Trump was insisting that he be taken to the Capitol is not in dispute. The detail that he was really pissed when the secret service wouldn't take him there is not in dispute. Those are the important parts anyway.
But even the details about Trump grabbing at the steering wheel and grabbing the throat of an agent has not been disputed by anyone under oath as far as we know.
