Sure you are. Why else would you try to normalize what is happening by saying it happens everywhere else? “To a lesser extent”… You truly are a morally bankrupt individual. But I have said that before to your registered name.
You are ridiculous. I am not normalizing anything. Yes it happens everywhere and everywhere it is equally bad. It is not an excuse. Are you ready to say Americans, British, Germans, French ... invaded -...pick one...-, they are subhuman barbaric murderers, all many millions of them should be wiped from the face of earth? If you are not, then shut up about Russians, too.
Umm, you are trying to but can only seem to convince Carmine who is either you or Adult in the room. Only you know that.
Nope, I don’t think any innocent civilian should be raped and killed. Russia is busy doing that right now. I will not be quiet about it.
Good thing Russia doesn't lack people. They lost insane numbers of soldiers in WWII as well, but still won it. The US is still to win a war.
They US and Britain gave Russia over $200 billion in supplies (in today's dollars) during WW2, including over 15,000 tanks, 18,000 aircraft, and similar numbers in every type of military supply you can think of. You people were completely bailed out in WW2, and saved from your own cowardice and ineptitude.
In retrospect, perhaps we should have let you awful people got steamrolled by the Germans. But at the time, it seems like a good idea to bail you out.
The only reason the US would ever do something, is to look out for the US. If Europe (and Russia) would have gotten steamrolled by Germans, you know who would have been next. This way you got at least to ravage Germany, steal it's gold, tech and engineering, which is worth more than 180 billion, so I consider this an investment.
Now the US is interested in stationing it's military in Ukraine, so naturally, they will support Ukrainian army with weapons.
Also, I'm glad Americans can sleep well at night while their military is wrecking Middle East. You are of course by no means "awful", unlike these ungrateful Europeans.
How many Russian civilians have the Ukrainian army killed so far? How many Russian houses have been destroyed? How many Russian civilians have been raped? How many Russian towns have been reduced to rubble?
But keep it up with the endless sophistry and fake altruism.
WE do know that @ 18,000 Russians have been killed in Donetsk and Donbas since 2014.
What were 18,000 Russian citizens doing inside Ukraine?
Oh, you're counting the Ukrainian citizens who were killed after Russia invaded Ukraine as dead Russians. I guess all of the Soviet citizens who died in WW2 were really just Germans.
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You forgot to talk about "feminine energy". Now there was a phrase that translated well.
LOL.
Sweety, you were the one who brought that feminine stuff to conversation. I only mentioned "hysterical woman", pretty clumsy, though. How old are you? Maybe you're becoming senile? Consult Oh ..TX when you get together, he/she will know better.
You are absolutely right. So please stop doing it in the Middle East.
Is this the US / Middle East thread? Create that thread and we will discuss that there.
Stop deflecting. There is nothing you can say that will justify the atrocities.
Ah, you don't like hypocrisy pointed out to you, I totally didn't expect that.
Admit American atrocities in the Middle East and call out POTUS for being a war criminal first, then we can talk about Russia and its doings with a straight face. You morans love talking about dead civilians in Mariupol, but not so much about 400.000 dead civilians killed by the US military in the Middle East.
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Is this the US / Middle East thread? Create that thread and we will discuss that there.
Stop deflecting. There is nothing you can say that will justify the atrocities.
Ah, you don't like hypocrisy pointed out to you, I totally didn't expect that.
Admit American atrocities in the Middle East and call out POTUS for being a war criminal first, then we can talk about Russia and its doings with a straight face. You morans love talking about dead civilians in Mariupol, but not so much about 400.000 dead civilians killed by the US military in the Middle East.
You are deflecting like your comrades.
Why don't we bring up hypocrisy from whatever POS country you belong to? Why should you care about Middle Eastern lives when your country is or has killed people indiscriminently?
The subject is Russia / Ukraine. Are you too dumb to address the topic? I think you have already shown you are.
Your logic:
The US is killing people...therefore Russia should be allowed to kill people.
How many Russian civilians have the Ukrainian army killed so far? How many Russian houses have been destroyed? How many Russian civilians have been raped? How many Russian towns have been reduced to rubble?
But keep it up with the endless sophistry and fake altruism.
This is the condensed argument:
Russian war crimes are abhorrent - those responsible are monsters who should be held accountable and made to pay.
Ukraine war crimes are justified - we should ignore it or excuse it and those responsible deserve our support.
And if you do not agree, you're guilty of endless sophistry and fake altruism.
Hey, what's a little prisoner torture and road-side executions between friends?
Or shelling of urban areas, provided there are Russians or Rebels there, too? All for a good cause.
If you were half as moral as you claim, you'd see these things are wrong. Not wrong sometimes - just wrong.
How many Russian civilians have the Ukrainian army killed so far? How many Russian houses have been destroyed? How many Russian civilians have been raped? How many Russian towns have been reduced to rubble?
But keep it up with the endless sophistry and fake altruism.
This is the condensed argument:
Russian war crimes are abhorrent - those responsible are monsters who should be held accountable and made to pay.
Ukraine war crimes are justified - we should ignore it or excuse it and those responsible deserve our support.
And if you do not agree, you're guilty of endless sophistry and fake altruism.
Hey, what's a little prisoner torture and road-side executions between friends?
Or shelling of urban areas, provided there are Russians or Rebels there, too? All for a good cause.
If you were half as moral as you claim, you'd see these things are wrong. Not wrong sometimes - just wrong.
Nobody thinks war crimes are good. There is no doubt, however, that the scale of Russia atrocities vastly dwarfs the scale of Ukrainian wrongdoings -- even before taking into account that Russia is murderously and aggressively invading an innocent neighbor.
Posters like you devote obviously outsize attention to Ukrainian wrongdoings and rarely, if ever, acknowledge the Russian ones. If you were actually fair and balanced you'd spend at least 10 posts criticizing the Russians for every post about the Ukrainians. Simple as that.
How many Russian civilians have the Ukrainian army killed so far? How many Russian houses have been destroyed? How many Russian civilians have been raped? How many Russian towns have been reduced to rubble?
But keep it up with the endless sophistry and fake altruism.
This is the condensed argument:
Russian war crimes are abhorrent - those responsible are monsters who should be held accountable and made to pay.
Ukraine war crimes are justified - we should ignore it or excuse it and those responsible deserve our support.
And if you do not agree, you're guilty of endless sophistry and fake altruism.
Hey, what's a little prisoner torture and road-side executions between friends?
Or shelling of urban areas, provided there are Russians or Rebels there, too? All for a good cause.
If you were half as moral as you claim, you'd see these things are wrong. Not wrong sometimes - just wrong.
I think I missed your answer to my questions? Maybe they were hidden in the sophistry above.
Next you can explain to us how this grain of sand is actually Mt. Everest. They are literally the same thing.
Seeing many unconfirmed reports that the Slava-Class Cruiser “Moskva” - flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet - was struck by two Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles off the coast of Odessa and is sinking with 500+ aboard.
Ah, you don't like hypocrisy pointed out to you, I totally didn't expect that.
Admit American atrocities in the Middle East and call out POTUS for being a war criminal first, then we can talk about Russia and its doings with a straight face. You morans love talking about dead civilians in Mariupol, but not so much about 400.000 dead civilians killed by the US military in the Middle East.
You are deflecting like your comrades.
Why don't we bring up hypocrisy from whatever POS country you belong to? Why should you care about Middle Eastern lives when your country is or has killed people indiscriminently?
The subject is Russia / Ukraine. Are you too dumb to address the topic? I think you have already shown you are.
Your logic:
The US is killing people...therefore Russia should be allowed to kill people.
The argument is to point out hypocrisy, not to justify Russian killing.
Noting that is not "dumb".
Concern for civilians casualties is not borne from valuing human life when it is selective. It's posturing to reinforce bias and further agenda.
Otherwise, these same posters might rail against civilian death elsewhere on much larger scales. But they do not.
Apparently, Ukraine Lives Matter. Others not so much.
Seeing many unconfirmed reports that the Slava-Class Cruiser “Moskva” - flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet - was struck by two Ukrainian Neptune anti-ship missiles off the coast of Odessa and is sinking with 500+ aboard.
