"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

well actually wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Hospitalizations in San Diego remain 46 times higher among the unvaccinated.

It truly is a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/content/dam/sdc/hhsa/programs/phs/Epidemiology/COVID-19_Daily_Status_Update.pdf

This is incredibly misleading. They counted everyone with an unknown vax status as unvaccinated. They didn't even list the number of unknown or partially vaccinated.

Lol. Anything you can do to keep the head in the sand about vaccines. Vaccine status is known for almost everyone. You’re desperate here buddy.

Pandemic of the unvaccinated.

Harambe wrote:

well actually wrote:

This is incredibly misleading. They counted everyone with an unknown vax status as unvaccinated. They didn't even list the number of unknown or partially vaccinated.

Lol. Anything you can do to keep the head in the sand about vaccines. Vaccine status is known for almost everyone. You’re desperate here buddy.

Pandemic of the unvaccinated.

True. If you've only received two shots, Fauci doesn't consider you vaccinated.

DeathByVaccine wrote:

My 5th troll handle isn't working anymore :(

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Well actually it's really not:

https://sdcounty.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/c0f4b16356b840478dfdd50d1630ff2a

Their data has 88.2% of San Diegans vaxx status accounted for. Your supposed "unknown" loophole is probably a number of people you can count on two hands.

You are confusing a group with an individual. They know that 88% of the people are vaccinated but not know exactly which people are vaccinated and if this report was honest it would show the numbers of unknown, single vaccinated, and unvaccinated instead of grouping them all together. That doesn't even account for the fact that as many as 50% of people in the hospital with covid are not there because of covid.

Also did you know that hospitals get more funding the more covid patients they report... no conflict of interest there.

If you want a more accurate number look at a country that reports all of the numbers and is not as driven by politics:

By the way, no one is arguing that the vax doesn't help prevent death from covid (though the vax can cause death in many other ways). I am just pointing out that that san diego report is not reliable at all.

well actually wrote:

You are confusing a group with an individual. They know that 88% of the people are vaccinated but not know exactly which people are vaccinated and if this report was honest it would show the numbers of unknown, single vaccinated, and unvaccinated instead of grouping them all together.

No they do know people's vaccination status. People also disclose that, but even if they didn't the state keeps a record of people vaccinated. If you were honest you would admit you are wrong and are grasping for straws.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

well actually wrote:

You are confusing a group with an individual. They know that 88% of the people are vaccinated but not know exactly which people are vaccinated and if this report was honest it would show the numbers of unknown, single vaccinated, and unvaccinated instead of grouping them all together.

No they do know people's vaccination status. People also disclose that, but even if they didn't the state keeps a record of people vaccinated. If you were honest you would admit you are wrong and are grasping for straws.

Again, you are making a claim without any evidence. If they knew everyones vaccination status then why did they include people with unknown vax status in the unvax numbers?

Because they don't know literally have every single person. They have very close to 100%. You're basically making an argument contingent on a phenomenon you're theorizing exists without any proof. Show proof that a vast number of vaccinated people are being hospitalized for COVID in San Diego and are not disclosing their vax status. Good luck.

Just numbers:

At the hospital i work for:

45/50 COVID patients in the hospital are unvaccinated

and

16/18 COVID patients in the ICU are unvaccinated

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

Because they don't know literally have every single person. They have very close to 100%. You're basically making an argument contingent on a phenomenon you're theorizing exists without any proof. Show proof that a vast number of vaccinated people are being hospitalized for COVID in San Diego and are not disclosing their vax status. Good luck.

No, I'm looking at a chart and saying, look these variables aren't listed, therefore we cannot know them and this chart doesn't mean much without knowing them. The burden of proof is on you to show why we do know the variables. So far there is no evidence that we know anything about the individuals in the group that is listed as "not fully vaxed". As far as you and I know it could be 100% unknown status, it could be 100% 1 vax, it could be 100% unvaxed. The point is we don't know and you haven't given any evidence to show that we do know.

SameStory wrote:

Just numbers:

At the hospital i work for:

45/50 COVID patients in the hospital are unvaccinated

and

16/18 COVID patients in the ICU are unvaccinated

How many of those "COVID patients" came to the hospital for a reason other than covid ? And what does unvaccinated mean ? In Israel, it means you have not taken 3 shots.

Does your hospital use the old trick of observation status to distort the number of admissions ?

DanM wrote:

SameStory wrote:

Just numbers:

At the hospital i work for:

45/50 COVID patients in the hospital are unvaccinated

and

16/18 COVID patients in the ICU are unvaccinated

How many of those "COVID patients" came to the hospital for a reason other than covid ? And what does unvaccinated mean ? In Israel, it means you have not taken 3 shots.

Does your hospital use the old trick of observation status to distort the number of admissions ?

More DanM lies. Get a life bro.

I posted the Israel dashboard yesterday.

They very clearly keep track of 2 dose, 3 dose, and unvaccinated people.

well actually wrote:

[quote]THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

No, I'm looking at a chart and saying, look these variables aren't listed, therefore we cannot know them and this chart doesn't mean much without knowing them. The burden of proof is on you to show why we do know the variables. So far there is no evidence that we know anything about the individuals in the group that is listed as "not fully vaxed". As far as you and I know it could be 100% unknown status, it could be 100% 1 vax, it could be 100% unvaxed. The point is we don't know and you haven't given any evidence to show that we do know.

Let's say all of the people in the stats i just posted are fat and diabetic, which is quite likely given the higher incidence of COVID in this population. It still shows that 90% of those in the hospital are not vaxxed.

What stats do you need to see?

2600 bro wrote:

DanM wrote:

How many of those "COVID patients" came to the hospital for a reason other than covid ? And what does unvaccinated mean ? In Israel, it means you have not taken 3 shots.

Does your hospital use the old trick of observation status to distort the number of admissions ?

More DanM lies. Get a life bro.

I posted the Israel dashboard yesterday.

They very clearly keep track of 2 dose, 3 dose, and unvaccinated people.

DanM wrote:

How many of those "COVID patients" came to the hospital for a reason other than covid ? And what does unvaccinated mean ? In Israel, it means you have not taken 3 shots.

Does your hospital use the old trick of observation status to distort the number of admissions ?

Definition of COVID = being treated for COVID.

Definition of vaccinated = 2 shots or 1 J and J

well actually wrote:

By the way, no one is arguing that the vax doesn't help prevent death from covid (though the vax can cause death in many other ways). I am just pointing out that that san diego report is not reliable at all.

You see the same thing in Virginia. Now you have to make 5 posts about how THIS data isn't reliable and start making stuff up again:

There is zero evidence for vaccine-caused deaths above about a handful. You continue to fabricate things because you are livid the vaccines are working.

It’s always a conspiracy with these guys. Up is down. Down is up. A vaccine that clearly works at a high level creates incredible progress in countries/areas with 80%+ vaccination among adults. Yet, they’ll dig deep into the data to gaslight you about what is easily understood from a glance.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

It’s always a conspiracy with these guys. Up is down. Down is up. A vaccine that clearly works at a high level creates incredible progress in countries/areas with 80%+ vaccination among adults. Yet, they’ll dig deep into the data to gaslight you about what is easily understood from a glance.

82% in Singapore.

STAY HOME and read all about it !

2600 bro wrote:

DeathByVaccine wrote:

My 5th troll handle isn't working anymore :(

There's a difference between having 5 handles concurrently, like you, and my last 5 being banned permanently. :)

DanM wrote:

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

It’s always a conspiracy with these guys. Up is down. Down is up. A vaccine that clearly works at a high level creates incredible progress in countries/areas with 80%+ vaccination among adults. Yet, they’ll dig deep into the data to gaslight you about what is easily understood from a glance.

82% in Singapore.

STAY HOME and read all about it !

Not one mention of the miniscule death rates in Singapore.

Exhibit A of the gaslighting to try and convince the non-morons that the vaccine is secretly failing everywhere. Borderline insane.