I am leaning toward her not competing again. It has been a while and she isn't posting constantly about rehab and training. I think something is going on with her post college pro running.
I know this is not a popular opinion, but I said this first last year, and I still have the same thoughts. I think Tuohy being coached by the mother of one of her competitors is a huge conflict of interest. My observations:
-Tuohy has been descibed repeatedly by multiple people as "highly coachable". While no doubtedly meant as a compliment, another way to think of that is that she does what she is told without question, and that would make it easy to instill an ideology with her.
-The last great race that Katelyn Tuohy had was Millrose 2023, where she beat Elly Henes. She has not been the same since. After many years of consistent top performances, Tuohy has been "down" for some reason since beating Elly. This is suspicious timing.
-Both of Elly and Katelyn have been outspoken about trying for the 2024 Olympic team. There are 3 spots in each event. There could be opportunity cost for Elly Henes if her mother coaches her competitor to outrun her at the US Trials.
-I am not saying that Coach Henes is a bad person or a bad coach. The Olympics are only every 4 years. It is the opportunity of a lifetime. It would be a test for anyone's integrity to honestly coach someone to beat your child out of that kind of opportunity. I think Henes continuing to coach Tuohy is a major conflict of interest.
-Tuohy remaining in Raleigh to train as a pro seems like an odd choice. No new, objective coach. No altitude. I had thought for sure she would go to Mike Smith, but no. That is where Elly is, and I wonder if she was advised against it. Flagstaff and Mike Smith seemed like such a great choice for her.
-The only thing I have heard is how great and maternal Coach Henes is. Being maternal would make it easy to steer someone who has been raised to obey. Call me a cynic, but I don't believe anyone on this earth is unimpeachable. We are all capable of breaches in integrity. Nothing brings out the worst in people than feeling compelled to protect their kid's interest.
This has been a hunch of mine that has only continued to grow. The one fact that I will note is that Katelyn Tuohy was a fierce fast runner for years, and she has not been on top of her game since she beat Elly Henes at Millrose in 2023. I was so disappointed that KT didn't make a break when she turned pro. How gullible can you be to think that the mother of one of your competitor's for a spot on the Olympic team is going to honestly coach you to beat her.
Why am I the only one that sees this????
Possibly the big downvote pushback means you are squarely over the target. So continue down that line of thought, should you please, and think what additional things could be driving what appear to be somewhat dubious decisions.
I am leaning toward her not competing again. It has been a while and she isn't posting constantly about rehab and training. I think something is going on with her post college pro running.
I know this is not a popular opinion, but I said this first last year, and I still have the same thoughts. I think Tuohy being coached by the mother of one of her competitors is a huge conflict of interest. My observations:
-Tuohy has been descibed repeatedly by multiple people as "highly coachable". While no doubtedly meant as a compliment, another way to think of that is that she does what she is told without question, and that would make it easy to instill an ideology with her.
-The last great race that Katelyn Tuohy had was Millrose 2023, where she beat Elly Henes. She has not been the same since. After many years of consistent top performances, Tuohy has been "down" for some reason since beating Elly. This is suspicious timing.
-Both of Elly and Katelyn have been outspoken about trying for the 2024 Olympic team. There are 3 spots in each event. There could be opportunity cost for Elly Henes if her mother coaches her competitor to outrun her at the US Trials.
-I am not saying that Coach Henes is a bad person or a bad coach. The Olympics are only every 4 years. It is the opportunity of a lifetime. It would be a test for anyone's integrity to honestly coach someone to beat your child out of that kind of opportunity. I think Henes continuing to coach Tuohy is a major conflict of interest.
-Tuohy remaining in Raleigh to train as a pro seems like an odd choice. No new, objective coach. No altitude. I had thought for sure she would go to Mike Smith, but no. That is where Elly is, and I wonder if she was advised against it. Flagstaff and Mike Smith seemed like such a great choice for her.
-The only thing I have heard is how great and maternal Coach Henes is. Being maternal would make it easy to steer someone who has been raised to obey. Call me a cynic, but I don't believe anyone on this earth is unimpeachable. We are all capable of breaches in integrity. Nothing brings out the worst in people than feeling compelled to protect their kid's interest.
This has been a hunch of mine that has only continued to grow. The one fact that I will note is that Katelyn Tuohy was a fierce fast runner for years, and she has not been on top of her game since she beat Elly Henes at Millrose in 2023. I was so disappointed that KT didn't make a break when she turned pro. How gullible can you be to think that the mother of one of your competitor's for a spot on the Olympic team is going to honestly coach you to beat her.
Why am I the only one that sees this????
I have been pretty skeptical of Henes coaching Tuohy as a pro. Yes I am rooting for Tuohy, but have so many doubts that this set up is going to get her where she needs to go. Staying at NC state training with her college crew instead of going to altitude with pros? And now she is injured? None of the other pros Henes coaches are any good (let's be honest). Her runners just seem to hit a level after a year or two and then get injured or stagnate.
And I agree Tuohy has not looked on point since 2023 Indoors. Something else was up last spring, not just the stress of 3 seasons. And Coach Henes missed or ignored it. We are about to see Ramsden, Valby, Young and others put that narrative to rest.
I know this is not a popular opinion, but I said this first last year, and I still have the same thoughts. I think Tuohy being coached by the mother of one of her competitors is a huge conflict of interest. My observations:
-Tuohy has been descibed repeatedly by multiple people as "highly coachable". While no doubtedly meant as a compliment, another way to think of that is that she does what she is told without question, and that would make it easy to instill an ideology with her.
-The last great race that Katelyn Tuohy had was Millrose 2023, where she beat Elly Henes. She has not been the same since. After many years of consistent top performances, Tuohy has been "down" for some reason since beating Elly. This is suspicious timing.
-Both of Elly and Katelyn have been outspoken about trying for the 2024 Olympic team. There are 3 spots in each event. There could be opportunity cost for Elly Henes if her mother coaches her competitor to outrun her at the US Trials.
-I am not saying that Coach Henes is a bad person or a bad coach. The Olympics are only every 4 years. It is the opportunity of a lifetime. It would be a test for anyone's integrity to honestly coach someone to beat your child out of that kind of opportunity. I think Henes continuing to coach Tuohy is a major conflict of interest.
-Tuohy remaining in Raleigh to train as a pro seems like an odd choice. No new, objective coach. No altitude. I had thought for sure she would go to Mike Smith, but no. That is where Elly is, and I wonder if she was advised against it. Flagstaff and Mike Smith seemed like such a great choice for her.
-The only thing I have heard is how great and maternal Coach Henes is. Being maternal would make it easy to steer someone who has been raised to obey. Call me a cynic, but I don't believe anyone on this earth is unimpeachable. We are all capable of breaches in integrity. Nothing brings out the worst in people than feeling compelled to protect their kid's interest.
This has been a hunch of mine that has only continued to grow. The one fact that I will note is that Katelyn Tuohy was a fierce fast runner for years, and she has not been on top of her game since she beat Elly Henes at Millrose in 2023. I was so disappointed that KT didn't make a break when she turned pro. How gullible can you be to think that the mother of one of your competitor's for a spot on the Olympic team is going to honestly coach you to beat her.
Why am I the only one that sees this????
I have been pretty skeptical of Henes coaching Tuohy as a pro. Yes I am rooting for Tuohy, but have so many doubts that this set up is going to get her where she needs to go. Staying at NC state training with her college crew instead of going to altitude with pros? And now she is injured? None of the other pros Henes coaches are any good (let's be honest). Her runners just seem to hit a level after a year or two and then get injured or stagnate.
And I agree Tuohy has not looked on point since 2023 Indoors. Something else was up last spring, not just the stress of 3 seasons. And Coach Henes missed or ignored it. We are about to see Ramsden, Valby, Young and others put that narrative to rest.
Apparently I was wrong. Looks like Katelyn will be racing the 5k. She's made tremendous progress in the last month. Good luck to her.
I have been pretty skeptical of Henes coaching Tuohy as a pro. Yes I am rooting for Tuohy, but have so many doubts that this set up is going to get her where she needs to go. Staying at NC state training with her college crew instead of going to altitude with pros? And now she is injured? None of the other pros Henes coaches are any good (let's be honest). Her runners just seem to hit a level after a year or two and then get injured or stagnate.
And I agree Tuohy has not looked on point since 2023 Indoors. Something else was up last spring, not just the stress of 3 seasons. And Coach Henes missed or ignored it. We are about to see Ramsden, Valby, Young and others put that narrative to rest.
Apparently I was wrong. Looks like Katelyn will be racing the 5k. She's made tremendous progress in the last month. Good luck to her.
No entry yet. Hopefully she does not bounce out one of the NC State ladies like Amaris.
She has been suspicious since a young age. She confirmed the suspicions by partnering with suspicious characters. There has always been smoke and now she is showing us the fire.
She has been suspicious since a young age. She confirmed the suspicions by partnering with suspicious characters. There has always been smoke and now she is showing us the fire.
So your informed opinion is she was taking PEDS at what age? 15? 13? 12?
I have been pretty skeptical of Henes coaching Tuohy as a pro. Yes I am rooting for Tuohy, but have so many doubts that this set up is going to get her where she needs to go. Staying at NC state training with her college crew instead of going to altitude with pros? And now she is injured? None of the other pros Henes coaches are any good (let's be honest). Her runners just seem to hit a level after a year or two and then get injured or stagnate.
And I agree Tuohy has not looked on point since 2023 Indoors. Something else was up last spring, not just the stress of 3 seasons. And Coach Henes missed or ignored it. We are about to see Ramsden, Valby, Young and others put that narrative to rest.
Apparently I was wrong. Looks like Katelyn will be racing the 5k. She's made tremendous progress in the last month. Good luck to her.
YES!
Yes, YES!!!
I just had a FEELING she couldn’t let it go, that she just had to compete!
