Who does Michigan/LSU have that is a good miler? ND has Markezich but not sure who else for 1200. But maybe they are several of my 1-2 others. I still say current top 10 are safe.
Top 10 safe? A lot happened last yr at jdl, Alex Wilson, UW and conference meets. Good teams still out there: NC st, Al, UW, cu, um, NM, n dame, VA tech others with shot to squeeze in uva, or, UCLA, IL, prov, g-town, nova? Who would have thought Kentucky would be good last year?
NC St dmr, always a Shakespeare comedy, last year NCAA indoor dq!
Recently have always had the 1600/1200 pieces, Henes/Chmiel, Chmiel/Touhy, Touhy/Bush but have struggled at 400/800, which of course is strength for ark/FL. When state really needed it, out would pop a deflating 61 2:11.
If this year's team can get 55 2:05 out of ?/Bush and 4:25 ish from Tuohy3.0 (new metronome at 66 66 66 66), then they just need the 1200.
Tyynismaa - not yet eligible
Chmiel - reliable, rock solid
Shaw/Starliper - unreliable, but fast
Moreno - fast but injured
I have no idea what they will do for nationals, but you will see an A team at JDL and acc meets.
If this year's team can get 55 2:05 out of ?/Bush and 4:25 ish from Tuohy3.0 (new metronome at 66 66 66 66), then they just need the 1200.
Tyynismaa - not yet eligible
Chmiel - reliable, rock solid
Shaw/Starliper - unreliable, but fast
Moreno - fast but injured
I have no idea what they will do for nationals, but you will see an A team at JDL and acc meets.
Who is NC state going to run on the 400m leg? I think Jada Griffin graduated, she's not on the roster. They do have two 400m sprinters in the 55s/56s 400m range. Chmiel could probably lead off in 3:23-5, Bush 800m in 2:05, Tuohy 4:25.
Zero chance Tuohy or Chmiel run the DMR at nationals.
Penn Relays could be interesting however. Would not want to face them in a 4 x mile.
Let's see who this "A" team is that presumably tries to qualify. I agree on Chmiel - the 5000 is her event for indoors. But what mid distance runners do they have who can run fast DMR besides Tuohy, Bush, and maybe Starliper ?
Zero chance Tuohy or Chmiel run the DMR at nationals.
Penn Relays could be interesting however. Would not want to face them in a 4 x mile.
Let's see who this "A" team is that presumably tries to qualify. I agree on Chmiel - the 5000 is her event for indoors. But what mid distance runners do they have who can run fast DMR besides Tuohy, Bush, and maybe Starliper ?
I did not know Mareno was injured- yikes! What is Starliper’s current status? Not sure who is faster at 1200 between Chmiel or Shaw. Hartman maybe an option?
FYI only 12 teams qualify for relays, not 16 like individuals. Hard to say top 10 is safe right now with a few fast teams yet to race the event.
This was the best comment/correction - I had forgotten that only 12 make it. And yes my "top 10 safe" proved to be wrong, although if 16 had made it I think the top 9 would have been safe. ND, Georgetown, NC State, UW showed up with fast times as many anticipated but I think few saw UCLA or OR being as fast as they are. Ole Miss was also a surprise to me. The # of programs with multiple 4:30-35 mile types is getting quite large.
You are correct except that the qualifying time will likely be faster than last year. 10:59 was 16th. Only 3 teams have gone sub 10:57. I wouldn't feel safe at anything over about 4th in the rankings presently. At ND last year, a half dozen men's teams ran a time that would have previously won the NCAA meet and it was too late for other teams to run again.
Top 10 safe? A lot happened last yr at jdl, Alex Wilson, UW and conference meets. Good teams still out there: NC st, Al, UW, cu, um, NM, n dame, VA tech others with shot to squeeze in uva, or, UCLA, IL, prov, g-town, nova? Who would have thought Kentucky would be good last year?
NC St dmr, always a Shakespeare comedy, last year NCAA indoor dq!
Recently have always had the 1600/1200 pieces, Henes/Chmiel, Chmiel/Touhy, Touhy/Bush but have struggled at 400/800, which of course is strength for ark/FL. When state really needed it, out would pop a deflating 61 2:11.
If this year's team can get 55 2:05 out of ?/Bush and 4:25 ish from Tuohy3.0 (new metronome at 66 66 66 66), then they just need the 1200.
Tyynismaa - not yet eligible
Chmiel - reliable, rock solid
Shaw/Starliper - unreliable, but fast
Moreno - fast but injured
I have no idea what they will do for nationals, but you will see an A team at JDL and acc meets.
and another dude who predicted ok, if I bait my own line.
FL has gotten themselves into an interesting situaion. Valby is not qualified in 5000 yet, and their DMR is also not qualified. Those events are 1 hour apart at the SEC championship 2/24 with the 5000 first.. She would need something around 15:30 to make the 5000. Seems tough for them to qualify both on the same day.
BTW Duke is just the right type of team to possibly win it all. Good for first 3 legs with runners who might not qualify for individual events. And the anchor who has qualified for 3000 on night 2.
I’m not sure rankings move much. Stanford might be only one fighting for a spot. Sec has a lot of events in front of the DMR. And not a lot of contenders left running fresh. They dodged a bullet last night with only one of the possible 4 ACC teams that could have numbed them getting through.