Yes, runners whose strength is kicking should lead, push the pace at or above their PR pace, and somehow magically they will pull away rather than fade to the back like every other person who has tried this.
I’d say pro runners need to be more dynamic than this when running a first round and be able to change their race plan on the fly in order to get through
That's great on paper even though I am not sure what "more dynamic" is supposed to mean.
However, when everyone are very similar in talent, leading not drafting, and the mental stress of leading almost always results in an exceptional fade late. Hocker led, finished 6th. Blankenship led, finished 6th. Ellis led, finished 11th. Now take two athletes (DeGenero & Aragon) who are kickers with little to no experience leading and you think it would be a positive outcome? They represented themselves positively and showed that with more experience and training they could be a factor in the future.
SCR out of the 100, good. Now we can focus on real athletes without the distraction.
Maybe Steiner should have competed—with SCR out, she had a fair shot at a relay spot.
Even if SCR tries the 2, she will die. Her last 200m was horrible.
WTF is with her? Did Gatlin have any insight?
Maybe she is running “clean” because she knows that she in particular will be under scrutiny. How many times have I said on this board that she is an 11.3 talent, and BAM 💥 11.31 (0.4). If that is the case, there is no shame in that.
I actually believe that now. Hasn’t remotely flashed the same level of talent since she tested positive for weed. I do wonder if that’s what she really tested positive for or if USADA/USATF just gave her a way out while still banning her.
Yes, runners whose strength is kicking should lead, push the pace at or above their PR pace, and somehow magically they will pull away rather than fade to the back like every other person who has tried this.
There aren't any women at USA's who can't run sub 4:10. They can almost all run at least 4:07 and make it on time if they had actually tried. But they didn't even try to run a 4:07.
You are actually making my point. Everyone can run 4:07, so if DeGenero and Aragon led at that pace, the entire field would have gone with them. Leaving them where with 200 to go? One thing is certain. If a non-experienced front runner chooses to lead at this level, they will fade BADLY. It is not as simple as running a solo time trial in which no one is capable of covering.
There aren't any women at USA's who can't run sub 4:10. They can almost all run at least 4:07 and make it on time if they had actually tried. But they didn't even try to run a 4:07.
You are actually making my point. Everyone can run 4:07, so if DeGenero and Aragon led at that pace, the entire field would have gone with them. Leaving them where with 200 to go?
Simple. Leaving them not in the top 3, but at least having a shot at making it through on time.
The other option is running a slow race and then trying to out sprint a bunch of pros which is not a good option. That's what happened and did that work out for them? No, it didn't. You're pushing for a strategy which flat out didn't work, as we all saw when watching the race. Why argue for something that failed?
I feel that in this type of racing situation you either try to take destiny into your own hands or you are just there hoping others do it for you. and in this case doing the latter meant no q.
Just spoke to Coach Pete Julian of the Union Athletics Club. He shared that @DonavanBrazier feels good but will not contest tomorrow’s 800m semi-final.
The 2019 World Champion ran 1:46.49 for the fastest time of the day. He has an automatic bye and will compete at @WCHoregon22. pic.twitter.com/3SakWs7nFy
Just goes to show how special Centro was and how so many on the boards the last couple of years took him for granted. His consistency is something of legends.
You are actually making my point. Everyone can run 4:07, so if DeGenero and Aragon led at that pace, the entire field would have gone with them. Leaving them where with 200 to go?
Simple. Leaving them not in the top 3, but at least having a shot at making it through on time.
The other option is running a slow race and then trying to out sprint a bunch of pros which is not a good option. That's what happened and did that work out for them? No, it didn't. You're pushing for a strategy which flat out didn't work, as we all saw when watching the race. Why argue for something that failed?
So, race for 5th when your strength is kicking? Like Gear did and finished in 4:20. And she was only leading in around 4:18 pace prior to the fade. Imagine the crash if she, DeGenero, or Aragon were on 4:07 pace early as you suggest.
I am arguing for athletes to do what is best for their situation, not some fictional "just go lead and blow everyone out" mentality. Most anyone who has run in championship races will tell you that leading is a last resort and only by those who do it regularly. DeGenero and Aragon gave themselves the best chance they had to advance under the circumstances. Hopefully they will improve and have additional tools to use in the future.
If Hiltz didn't have splits, it's because they were forced into running out in lane 9 - I don't think there are sensors out there. Pretty slow heat though so managed to move on
Tamari Davis is the future of usa sprinting for the women. Hopefully this weekend is her coming out party. if she’s aloud to take the juice like Jamaicans then she’ll be great.
wonder how they choose who to go after and who not? Maybe if ya win your first gold clean you’re aloud to dope with impunity after that? I mean I love the Jamaican women (SAFP +ETH) and think peds should be aloud but I’m just curious how they get by.
what happened to Muhammad? is Steiner only running in the 200?
After watching the 1500 I agree with Rojo that the top 4 should advance in each heat. It would make the heats even more exciting. Class act by Hobbs Kessler giving post race interviews. Hobbs trials at 19 will pay huge dividends when he reaches his prime.
SCR out of the 100, good. Now we can focus on real athletes without the distraction.
Maybe Steiner should have competed—with SCR out, she had a fair shot at a relay spot.
Even if SCR tries the 2, she will die. Her last 200m was horrible.
WTF is with her? Did Gatlin have any insight?
Maybe she is running “clean” because she knows that she in particular will be under scrutiny. How many times have I said on this board that she is an 11.3 talent, and BAM 💥 11.31 (0.4). If that is the case, there is no shame in that.
You need to stop with this nonsense. She was at 10.7 her first year at LSU in 2019. Was she on drugs then?