Why is everyone so obsessed with Gabby Petito?

Pendejon wrote:

Maybe see a therapist? I did over the marathon cheat.

Seriously? Guess my bar for seeing a therapist is higher. I’d be afraid he/she will laugh my brat face off if I tell them I’m there coz I can’t stop consuming Petito news. :)

Smoove wrote:

I’d like to hear from anyone who doesn’t think he caused her death. My guess is, that if you forced each person on this sting to choose “he probably directly caused her death” or “he didn’t directly cause her death” very, very few would say “he probably didn’t.”

No one could reasonably believe he didn't cause her death. I think you could make a remote argument if perhaps he was willing to talk to police when he returned from his trip, something along the lines of "we got into a fight, I left and she stayed on her own." But returning from the trip without her, refusing to talk and acting like everything is normal should seal the deal for just about everyone.

you don't say wrote:

I think you could make a remote argument if perhaps he was willing to talk to police when he returned from his trip, something along the lines of "we got into a fight, I left and she stayed on her own." But returning from the trip without her, refusing to talk and acting like everything is normal should seal the deal for just about everyone.

It all breaks apart with him having to answer: "So, you left her on her own and drove straight back home in her car with all her stuff in it? And her cell phone was powered off as you left her and has not turned on again since. And she didn't walk to any of the adjacent campsites by your campsite to ask for a ride out?"

you don't say wrote:

Smoove wrote:

I’d like to hear from anyone who doesn’t think he caused her death. My guess is, that if you forced each person on this sting to choose “he probably directly caused her death” or “he didn’t directly cause her death” very, very few would say “he probably didn’t.”

No one could reasonably believe he didn't cause her death. I think you could make a remote argument if perhaps he was willing to talk to police when he returned from his trip, something along the lines of "we got into a fight, I left and she stayed on her own." But returning from the trip without her, refusing to talk and acting like everything is normal should seal the deal for just about everyone.

I actually don’t hold his not talking against him simply because that is the smart thing to do even if he didn’t *murder* her. Let’s say you were in his shoes and got into a fight with her and killed her in self defense; would it be that unreasonable to think that you might panic and just lawyer up? Or let’s say she died of an accident in your company (but that you didn’t cause) and you know that the police have a report of the two of you squabbling violently at a road stop from a couple weeks back.

All that said, if I were forced hypothetically to bet one way or the other, I’d say he either murdered her (first, second, or third degree) or was in good part at least to blame in everyman’s eyes, if not legally, for her death, for example, say, because he recklessly left her behind in unsafe conditions because she herself burst out at him to leave and never contact her again.

Discusss wrote:

Pendejon wrote:

Maybe see a therapist? I did over the marathon cheat.

Seriously? Guess my bar for seeing a therapist is higher. I’d be afraid he/she will laugh my brat face off if I tell them I’m there coz I can’t stop consuming Petito news. :)

I guess obsession about cute dead white girls is normal then? They won't laugh at you anyway , by the end of the first visit they'll have you on some kind of pharmaceutical.

Discusss wrote:

Looks like the Laundries’ attorney canceled today’s press conference at FBI’s request. Why would the FBI care? Because it thinks Brian might be hiding and getting an open or coded message through the presser that they want him to not have? Even so, why would the attorney agree to postpone? Presumably the FBI doesn’t have the authority to prevent an attorney or really anyone from holding a presser (or does it under some circumstances?), so there must be some type of mutual understanding and agreement prompting the postponement.

Or maybe they just decided they didn't want to do one. There is really isn't much to say and trying to answer reporter's questions would be very unpleasant.

Self-defense against a 110-pound woman is not too compelling for me.

The Yosemite text that was sent from her phone is damning. It didn't come from her and even if her phone wasn't password protected, it wasn't a 3rd party. I guess he was thinking he could claim they had parted ways.

all he needs to do is shove her a little, she trips, hits her head on a rock, and dies.

i've seen this sort of thing in movies.

potato_salad wrote:

all he needs to do is shove her a little, she trips, hits her head on a rock, and dies.

i've seen this sort of thing in movies.

He could have even said she had tripped on her own and called the police instead of fleeing.

What do you think about the Yosemite text?

will not understand either

If you think no one will believe the truth, then you have to lie.

SDSU Aztec wrote:

potato_salad wrote:

all he needs to do is shove her a little, she trips, hits her head on a rock, and dies.

i've seen this sort of thing in movies.

He could have even said she had tripped on her own and called the police instead of fleeing.

What do you think about the Yosemite text?

The text claims Yosemite does not have cellular service. It does have good cellular service in the eastern part of the 7-mile long valley, and it has wifi available at campgrounds and in the hotels. So, that text indicates it came from someone who has never been in Yosemite.

ridicula wrote:

I actually don’t hold his not talking against him simply because that is the smart thing to do even if he didn’t *murder* her.

I agree that the guy's guilty. But so far, all that the public has been told is circumstantial and doesn't rise to the level of "beyond a reasonable doubt." But not talking is the smart thing to do even if he is completely innocent.

Remember, even if this guy is innocent (which I don't believe), the burden of proof shifts in a civil court to "preponderance of the evidence." Under that criteria and with a simple majority of jurors needed to vote guilty, he's probably found to be guilty and anything he says could only build a stronger case against him.

fisky wrote:

But not talking is the smart thing to do even if he is completely innocent.

Let's assume you are innocent for a minute. You return from the trip without her (with her things no less) and then find out that nobody can get in touch with her. You have no reason to assume she's dead initially, so why on earth wouldn't you try to help the police and possibly provide key info for search and recovery efforts?

Not talking is only the smart thing to do if you know she's dead.

potato_salad wrote:

If you think no one will believe the truth, then you have to lie.

True. Most people will default to the prejudice that the man is the murderer if the woman dies, but not judge with as much haste the other way round, i.e. if the man died, they won’t jump to considering the woman as the murderer automatically and probe all sides of the matter.

But if the woman lawyered up immediately and said nothing at al to his hurting parents or to anyone, then perhaps she won’t get any gender benefit either.

potato_salad wrote:

all he needs to do is shove her a little, she trips, hits her head on a rock, and dies.

i've seen this sort of thing in movies.

Yes, also in movies, the gangsta dude just has to twist your neck with bare hands and you die of a fractured medula oblongata or something.

But seriously, it’s possible to push someone to their death unintentionally and involuntarily just coz they were tickling you.

you don't say wrote:

fisky wrote:

But not talking is the smart thing to do even if he is completely innocent.

Let's assume you are innocent for a minute. You return from the trip without her (with her things no less) and then find out that nobody can get in touch with her. You have no reason to assume she's dead initially, so why on earth wouldn't you try to help the police and possibly provide key info for search and recovery efforts?

Not talking is only the smart thing to do if you know she's dead.

Yes, but you can know she is dead without having murdered her, and yet fear that no one would believe your story. Justifiable homicide in self defense is one example. Why would anyone believe you especially after a police report of domestic altercation a couple weeks earlier?

Just noticed this video that says at 5:05 that Brian flew to FL on Aug 17 to help his dad move some of their stuff from storage and then flew back to join her Aug 23. I’ve not seen this claim corroborated anywhere else. Not that it changes much because she was known to be alive and checking out of a hotel and FaceTiming with her mom on Aug 24 while leaving Salt Lake City for Grand Teton.

https://youtu.be/sy3jdWcFam8

Coming as no surprise.

Gabby Petito's manner of death was homicide, coroner determines

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gabby-petitos-manner-of-death-was-homicide-coroner-determines/ar-AAOG5jN