Biden to mandate vaccine for most employees

Harambe wrote:

Yawn^9 wrote:

You are ignoring the whole conclusion drawn by the article Harambe (read “you”) posted.

I don’t believe I made any such I claim.

The claim I did make was that there is no “vast majority” clamoring for mandates. My poll clearly states that, so does yours.

A 2:1 ratio is indeed a vast majority.

CORRECT!

Lolclowns wrote:

439 wrote:

You are correct.

That is not the same as wishing Flagpole died though. No getting around it.

Go look for trouble where it exists.

You are extremely mad

Yes he is, involving several definitions of that word.

Harambe wrote:

Former runner turned bodybuilder wrote:

WTH? The most Liberal print news is actually saying this? I've fallen and I can't get up! Lol.

Seriously, Biden has lost it if the Times doesn't endorse his mandates. He's not mentally competent to be the Commander & Chief of this country. I feel sorry for those independent voters who couldn't wait to vote out Trump - now look at who you're stuck with! Lol.

Nah you guys are wrong, most Americans support mandates, most Americans are vaccinated.

This is an EASY win. He frames it as a 'battle' when it's really just rolling over the last few weak-minded contrarians.

Genius move and it's fun to see internet tough guys get bodied by an 80 year old dude.

Wow you are an idiot.

Flagpole wrote:

439 wrote:

Flagpole, I didn't wish you die. Learn to read. I said it was unfortunate that a good man died because of bad men like you.

Harambe, you are too much of a coward. You deserve nothing but pity.

Dude, I couldn't care less what you say about me, but don't lie.

You said this - "How unfortunate you didn't go instead of him." That is NOT saying it was unfortunate that a good man died because of bad men like me.

Dumb@ss.

Go and call dumb@ss to your Immunology wife. She must be one to put up with an idiot like you for years.

Flagpole wrote:

1001001 wrote:

Learn to write before demanding that someone learn to read your writing.

CORRECT!

INCORRECT!

jonesy22 wrote:

Harambe wrote:

Nah you guys are wrong, most Americans support mandates, most Americans are vaccinated.

This is an EASY win. He frames it as a 'battle' when it's really just rolling over the last few weak-minded contrarians.

Genius move and it's fun to see internet tough guys get bodied by an 80 year old dude.

Wow you are an idiot.

CORRECT!

My first thought after listening to Biden's speech was "How is this going to be enforced?"

I've had to get a negative COVID test three times for surgery. It wasn't a total PITA, but it took over an hour to drive to the clinic, wait in line, and take the test, although the test itself only took a couple of minutes, and then drive back home.

I did it during normal working hours. When are employees going to find the time to do this? Before work? Over lunch hour? It seems like that would create a major bottleneck for clinics... a rush hour for testing, if you will.

OTOH, if at-home testing is used, I'd be extremely skeptical that most people would jam that swab up their nose far enough to get a true test sample.

For government employees, there's a major loophole that lets them stay home and get paid until their grievance is settled! (see link below)

The article below says guidelines are coming this week, but wow, this is going to be a challenge!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/federal-workers-e2-80-99-vaccine-mandate-prompts-confusion-as-the-government-struggles-to-return-to-offices/ar-AAOjuK1

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

Yawn^9 wrote:

Wrong. The government does not have the authority to stick me with medications.

You conveniently left out the part where companies can take the test costs from employees. In essence, they force employees who might already be working minimum wage jobs to pay for nonsense.

The rest of us have a right to a safe workplace.

What is safe? How do you define safe?

Vaccinated people can still spread covid. Even if it is a small chance, there is still a risk that is greater than 0 that vaxed people are spreaders. Since vaxed ppl can still spread covid, you should stay home too. We have the right to be protected from vaxed people too.

I specialize in dumb comments. wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

How is a once a week test a "vaccine mandate?"

or... do you not want to discuss that part because it ruins your fantasy?

A lot of companies don't pay for the testing. Last time I had one, it was $180. If you were a low wage earner, that would be a significant reason to get the vaccine ($9360 a year if tested weekly).

They know this bro. ALL of the sudden, they disregard and don't care about the poor people (until it comes time to vote).

I don't always agree with you, but you are the most sensible person in this forum. Period.

That's because Fisky is not imprisoned by political tribalism. Every argument I've seen from him is in good faith and not intellectually dishonest.

+1

It's all an experiment.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/pfizer-exec-calls-israel-a-sort-of-laboratory-for-covid-vaccines/

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I would assume this ends up in the courts.

Again?

A 1905 Supreme Court ruling grants states the authority to issue vaccine mandates.

okaywantkababi wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I would assume this ends up in the courts.

https://www.businessinsider.com/supreme-court-decision-from-1905-set-stage-for-vaccine-mandates-2021-9

Again?

A 1905 Supreme Court ruling grants states the authority to issue vaccine mandates.

Maybe you didn’t read what you wrote, but they key word is states.

The Supreme Court also said slavery and segregation were legal. Should we have kept those rulings?

There's talk that the government will offer free forearm tattoos to show proof of double-vaccination, with stars added to show boosters.

okaywantkababi wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

I would assume this ends up in the courts.

https://www.businessinsider.com/supreme-court-decision-from-1905-set-stage-for-vaccine-mandates-2021-9

Again?

A 1905 Supreme Court ruling grants states the authority to issue vaccine mandates.

No. It does not. It "sets the stage" for vaccine mandates.

Some real BS

fisky wrote:

Announcement to come this afternoon.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/09/politics/joe-biden-covid-speech/index.html

He tried for a VERY long time to give people the chance to do the right thing. You are either with us or against us at this point. You dont have the freedom to continue contributing to preventable deaths for political reasons. These are the lowest people in our society, hiding behind made up excuse of "freedom" for this one shot? Dont hear them complaining about MMR mandates for schools? Just common sense. The few selfish people should not be able to bring the rest of us down. These mandates dont go far enough at all.

Bullet_Proof wrote:

The Gallant Pig Man wrote:

The rest of us have a right to a safe workplace.

What is safe? How do you define safe?

Vaccinated people can still spread covid. Even if it is a small chance, there is still a risk that is greater than 0 that vaxed people are spreaders. Since vaxed ppl can still spread covid, you should stay home too. We have the right to be protected from vaxed people too.

You are yet one more person spreading misinformation to make yourself feel better, and contribute to more people dying. The unvaccinated are driving the spread and development of variants. This is keeping us where we are and keeping people from getting care in hospitals for other conditions due to occupancy.

Hyperbole aside, we need a word for these non vaxxers who are actively contributing to preventable deaths and harm to our country for political reasons (in fairness, lack of basic education as well). Domestic terrorist doesnt quite fit, Taliban is already taken? Hmm, I cant think of a good word for these sociopaths. We would not tolerate this behavior for anything else. Can you imagine these people actively thwarting the war effort during world war?