"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

2600 bro wrote:

BidenFixedCovid wrote:

Not really surprised you're a teacher, on average they score lower than other professional jobs on college entrant exams, and mediocrity thrives in a non-competitive environment.

Lol do you ever discuss the topic at hand? Or just try and trash other posters when you are upset everyone disagrees with you?

The antivaxxers are very embarrassing recently

Nope, the dude gets thumped in arguments daily, changes the subject, randomly insults, or just stops posting. The denier-fearmogner trifecta.

One day they may try bringing data.. that would be fun!

BidenFixedCovid wrote:

Stuck at home wrote:

CA's vax rate of 60.56% is less than 2 points higher than FL's 58.67.

Would you agree that the 5.5 year difference between FL's median age of 42.5 years vs CA's median age of 35.0, the fact that senior citizens make up 19.06% of FL's population but only 12.7% of CA's population, or the fact that FL's obesity rate of 30.7 vs CA's 25.8% contributes more to the difference in COVID death rate than the difference in vaccination rates?

The fearmonger COVIDIOT crew does not generally understand multiple variables, it's too hard. Remember, they are very binary in their thought and lack critical thinking skills. For instance, I think the clown puncher teaches Home Ec.

Nah this is bad analysis. Florida was doing OK through the first 3 waves despite their high obesity rate. Then they forgot that you needed to vaccinate your population if you're going to be wide-open when Delta arrived. Thus, a bunch of people died.

CA vaccinated quickly and tiered their opening much better to handle the the delta wave, and this didn't punt thousands of lives needlessly.

The obesity argument fails because Florida's death rate wasn't worse than CA's before the delta wave. They just dropped the ball on vaccinations and mitigations around delta. Hubris....

BidenFixedCovid wrote:

Stuck at home wrote:

CA's vax rate of 60.56% is less than 2 points higher than FL's 58.67.

Would you agree that the 5.5 year difference between FL's median age of 42.5 years vs CA's median age of 35.0, the fact that senior citizens make up 19.06% of FL's population but only 12.7% of CA's population, or the fact that FL's obesity rate of 30.7 vs CA's 25.8% contributes more to the difference in COVID death rate than the difference in vaccination rates?

The fearmonger COVIDIOT crew does not generally understand multiple variables, it's too hard. Remember, they are very binary in their thought and lack critical thinking skills. For instance, I think the clown puncher teaches Home Ec.

This is true. Harambe and his many alters simply regurgitate whatever the mainstream media tells them to believe.

BeauBidensDeadHaHa wrote:

BidenFixedCovid wrote:

The fearmonger COVIDIOT crew does not generally understand multiple variables, it's too hard. Remember, they are very binary in their thought and lack critical thinking skills. For instance, I think the clown puncher teaches Home Ec.

This is true. Harambe and his many alters simply regurgitate whatever the mainstream media tells them to believe.

Imagine comparing vaccination rate to age stratification but not looking at vaccine-age stratification.

It’s always like the wrong answer on a HS math test. You guys are great!

PS that was homework! Get to it kids!

2600 bro wrote:

PS that was homework! Get to it kids!

No thanks. I'll let you waste a bunch of time posting stats that will be ignored anyway.

BeauBidensDeadHaHa wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

PS that was homework! Get to it kids!

No thanks. I'll let you waste a bunch of time posting stats that will be ignored anyway.

LMAO love it.

I’ll do it for you this afternoon. Takes a few minutes to get the data.

You’re more committed to trolling that discussion. Got it.

2600 bro wrote:

BeauBidensDeadHaHa wrote:

No thanks. I'll let you waste a bunch of time posting stats that will be ignored anyway.

LMAO love it.

I’ll do it for you this afternoon. Takes a few minutes to get the data.

You’re more committed to trolling that discussion. Got it.

Don't bother on my account. If I want to know your opinion I'll just read some mainstream media propaganda.

More evidence that this is a pandemic of the vaccinated:

"Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow transmission could thus allow very virulent strains to circulate in a population."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4516275/

This is what happens when vaccines are rushed and people take them with blind trust.

Republicans now asking for people to please get vaccinated. They are learning.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/idaho-legislator-urges-people-vaccinated-154824327.html

BeauBidensDeadHaHa wrote:

2600 bro wrote:

PS that was homework! Get to it kids!

No thanks. I'll let you waste a bunch of time posting stats that will be ignored anyway.

You don't even need high-school level stats to understand the data.

The fact that antivaxxers can't grapple with even 8th grade math is... not surprising! It was true of the COVID deniers before them.

well actually wrote:

More evidence that this is a pandemic of the vaccinated:

"Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow transmission could thus allow very virulent strains to circulate in a population."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4516275/

This is what happens when vaccines are rushed and people take them with blind trust.

This study is from 2015 and does nothing to provide evidence that covid vaccines are driving the success of more lethal or transmissible variants. The vaccines significantly reduce the risk of infection compared to remaining unvaccinated and also significantly reduce the ability of an infected person to spread the virus. This reduces the chance of viral evolution in turn. Put some effort into it, C'MON MAN!

huh really wrote:

Republicans now asking for people to please get vaccinated. They are learning.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/idaho-legislator-urges-people-vaccinated-154824327.html

She was OVERWEIGHT which the article failed to point out- obesity is a common comorbidity.

troll_69 wrote:

well actually wrote:

More evidence that this is a pandemic of the vaccinated:

"Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow transmission could thus allow very virulent strains to circulate in a population."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4516275/

This is what happens when vaccines are rushed and people take them with blind trust.

This study is from 2015 and does nothing to provide evidence that covid vaccines are driving the success of more lethal or transmissible variants. The vaccines significantly reduce the risk of infection compared to remaining unvaccinated and also significantly reduce the ability of an infected person to spread the virus. This reduces the chance of viral evolution in turn. Put some effort into it, C'MON MAN!

You gave no evidence that the study would not apply to covid vaccines. The covid vaccine is a vaccine that keep hosts alive but still allows transmission. This is the type of vaccine that the study was on.

Also is there evidence that the covid vaccines "significantly reduce the ability of an infected person to spread the virus"? I have heard that claimed a lot but never seen any concrete evidence for it. I've only seen evidence that shows that asymptomatic vaccinated are more likely to spread the virus than asymptomatic unvaccinated.

Harambe wrote:

BeauBidensDeadHaHa wrote:

No thanks. I'll let you waste a bunch of time posting stats that will be ignored anyway.

You don't even need high-school level stats to understand the data.

The fact that antivaxxers can't grapple with even 8th grade math is... not surprising! It was true of the COVID deniers before them.

I understand the data perfectly and still won't get the "vaccine."

It sounds like you dropped out in 7th grade.

well actually wrote:

I've only seen evidence that shows that asymptomatic vaccinated are more likely to spread the virus than asymptomatic unvaccinated.

In all seriousness: I would love to know more about this, but so far Google has not been helpful. Do you have a link?

BeauBidensDeadHaHa wrote:

Harambe wrote:

You don't even need high-school level stats to understand the data.

The fact that antivaxxers can't grapple with even 8th grade math is... not surprising! It was true of the COVID deniers before them.

I understand the data perfectly and still won't get the "vaccine."

It sounds like you dropped out in 7th grade.

If you understand the data and still make that choice. You have other mental defects. Get it checked out.

Or at least explain your rationale clearly. Happy to listen.

kibitzer wrote:

well actually wrote:

I've only seen evidence that shows that asymptomatic vaccinated are more likely to spread the virus than asymptomatic unvaccinated.

In all seriousness: I would love to know more about this, but so far Google has not been helpful. Do you have a link?

Nothing has shown this except one small study comparing initial viral loads. There’s many studies showing lower loads, better clearance, less contact transmission and, most of all, lower of infection for the vaccinated! Can’t spread if you aren’t infection.

kibitzer wrote:

well actually wrote:

I've only seen evidence that shows that asymptomatic vaccinated are more likely to spread the virus than asymptomatic unvaccinated.

In all seriousness: I would love to know more about this, but so far Google has not been helpful. Do you have a link?