Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

(setting aside your bias/blindspots regarding democrats and republicans)

I see two paths to help diminish the problem you're talking about, with one important common feature

Path #1: Open primaries where the top 2 candidates advanced regardless of political party affiliation. Basically, do away with the party system in large part. Some states already do this for some of their elections (e.g. Washington State). It generally forces candidates to adopt a more moderate platform to reach voters from a wider base.

Path #2: A preliminary round of ranked-choice voting prior to the November election where only the top 2 candidates advance, while also encouraging third party development (so that it isn't necessarily R vs. D every time) through expanded federal funding (which is currently available if a party gets more than 5% of the national vote in the previous presidential election IIRC - but if you base it on ranked choice voting in the preliminary round while doubling the threshold, this would become available to probably 3-5 parties after every cycle). The candidates in their party primaries would continue to have to appeal to their smaller base rather than the entire national landscape, but if the candidates are too extreme they likely wouldn't make it to the November elections in the end. Ranked choice voting will give an advantage to the more tolerable (usually moderate/centrist, but not always) candidates.

As an added bonus, both routes negate the potential for third party spoilers in November and both but especially the second route takes us further away from a binary, polarized outlook that many people have and recognize there are more than two viewpoints on almost every subject and they would be encouraged to learn more about and try to better understand different viewpoints due to needing to rank candidates rather than simply vote for the one you want to support.

My parents' house doesn't have a basement.

I moved out the day after I turned 18 and never went back.

Does it bother your tube socks that you're so absolutely dull?

Wait. I MIGHT be noticing a pattern here. DON'T kiss Donny's a**, and AITR hates you. What a weird coincidence, since he's NOT a Trumper (just ask him).

You just said Trump's quote is "EXACTLY what a racist would say"

The whole "30,000 lies by Trump" thing was based on a tally by the WaPo. I have no reason to doubt the number itself--they did supply the documentation for each--but I think we should remember that their term was actually something like "false or misleading statements." So keep in mind:

*Lying implies an intent to deceive. Trump may have actually believed many of his false statements. AND

*Many of his falsehoods were repetitions, so saying the same (false) thing three times in the same day got counted as three different falsehoods, which I suppose makes sense if you're averaging 20+ a day for four years--hard to be that productively mendacious on a daily basis. BUT ALSO

*Those 30,000 were only public statements (Twitter, interview, whatever) that could be documented. No doubt he spewed many more in private.

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Now, as to TAITR's assertion about 30,000 lies by Biden in his first year in office:

*That would be nearly 100 a day. That seems like a whole lot for anybody. And remember we're only tallying public falsehoods (so we can compare apples to apples). MOREOVER

*TAITR supplies no backup for his assertion--just presumably wants to square support of Donald Trump (and his falsehoods) by saying that Biden is even worse. But in contrast to the 30,000 figure for Trump, which was documented ad nauseam (and fact-checked by numerous sources), TAITR apparently simply made a statement and hoped it would be accepted. AND

*Didn't TAITR get outed, at length, as a liar a couple days ago? Like 15 or 20 pages back?

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Last word: TAITR said no one checks on a DE senator, but on PolitiFact (which someone linked to recently) they actually have a couple of pants-on-fire statements from Biden from 15 years ago--which they reported at the time. So that's another confident, but false, assertion from TAITR.

TL, DR: "TheAdultInTheRoom" continues to advertise his willingness to make things up, so he can "win" his point. Kinda like Trump himself, now that I think of it.

trump literally said a judge couldn't do his job because he was hispanic. Not sure there can be a more clear illustration of racism than that.

Leaving aside all the dog whistles of course.

You're still here? Why??

Oh, all of the very accurate stereotypes and rules-of-thumb you're so good at reminding us about.

Like, "Show me a guy who pretty much EVER talks about seeing the world in terms of "alphas" and "betas" and I'll show you a hugely insecure as*****."

But it also makes total sense. Mature, fairly intelligent, well-educated men DON'T think that way. And Donny easily snows all of them who DO. Like you.

Any degree from U of Michigan is worth 300k if you’re a good student, which you probably are if you got into Michigan.

The worthless college degree is sort of a working class problem only. My degree is from a worthless college and in a field I didn’t go into. Doesn’t matter because I just needed the degree. It puts me ahead of all the other people when they start filtering résumés.

A Michigan grad with a 3.0 or greater can go work in any city at several large companies looking to hire smart kids. My ex girlfriend worked with a bunch of Michigan grads in entry level sales (at a prestigious company) and many of these kids moved up quickly and were making 6 figures by 25.

You don’t want to go into debt if you’re both poor and unable to work your way out of it. This is true for a lot of people in the working class but not so much for people with a bit of a head start.

Full tuition in a master's program at Harvard is $52,456 per year. And most people don't pay full tuition. Oh, and you do know that master's programs are typically just 2 years, right?

Like I said, uneducated white people think it costs $250K to get a masters degree in gender studies.

I'm just trying to decide which was the lamer, less relevant comeback, "Jim Jones (CULT leader) was a leftist," OR, "How many primaries is Trump running in?"

Looks like a tossup.

I sold Cutco knives in college. I'd go to people houses and give them little demonstrations. Part of the demo was tap one of the knives on the table to make it sing out a note. Then you'd tell them the note was a "B-sharp". Clearly a joke.

Stupid people and people on the spectrum never got the joke. I did a demonstration for a couple that were both members of a major US city's symphony. I made the b-sharp joke and the husband chuckled. The wife got up and left the room. I looked at the husband and he shrugged his shoulders and said, "She's autistic. She's probably going to get her tuner." Sure enough she returned with her tuner.

Looks like Umm, on is on the spectrum.

I have a master's degree. I know how long they take. But, because I'm not a "highly educated" liberal I also realize you need an undergraduate degree before you can get into a master's program.

Uneducated white people think it typically takes four years to get a master's degree. Or maybe seven, if spending the average ~$35k/yr gets you to a total of "$250K."

Each of my master's degrees took two years or less. And I was working during each.

Innumerate much? Or just uneducated?

It's relevant that you cult example was literally on your own side.

Trump isn't on any ballot. He's relevant only in your own mind.

People like YOU are desperately unpopular with American voters.

it is amazing that you people don't know you're stupid... lol.

Fun fact: degrees aren't time served. They are based on credit hours or semester hours. If you can manage all of the classes in one semester it would take one semester. If it takes you 10 years it takes you 10 years.

You cannot start a graduate program unless you have an undergraduate degree.

Are you stupid or just lying about your 900 degrees?

Democrats lose again!!!

Biden won that district by 13 points in 2020.

Flores won by 9.

That's a 22 point swing.

Democrats hate African Americans.