Heres a question. If it’s so obvious that there was widespread voter fraud, then how come it couldn’t be proven in court by Republican funded lawyers? Could it be……. a conspiracy? Surely since it’s so obvious, evidence would be indisputable
The answer of course is that there was no widespread voter fraud. Anyone who thinks so after all of the recounts, the attempts by biased Republicans to find fraud, is insane or just a moron.
TAITR can not be taken seriously about ANY of his opinions until he divorces himself from this ridiculous idea that Democrats stole an election with no evidence left behind. Just an INSANE view that he has. Fine to dislike Biden and liberals. Not fine to buy this lie.
The recounts didn't verify the votes were legit they just recounted the votes whether they were legit or not...
I don't even think you looked at them or you would know that there wasn't that many. The ones she did mention were not right. Any adult would know this.
The answer of course is that there was no widespread voter fraud. Anyone who thinks so after all of the recounts, the attempts by biased Republicans to find fraud, is insane or just a moron.
TAITR can not be taken seriously about ANY of his opinions until he divorces himself from this ridiculous idea that Democrats stole an election with no evidence left behind. Just an INSANE view that he has. Fine to dislike Biden and liberals. Not fine to buy this lie.
The recounts didn't verify the votes were legit they just recounted the votes whether they were legit or not...
So they counted the votes for both candidates. Guess what. They are having hearings right now and you can actually hear what Republicans are saying about this if you would only get out of your echo chamber and listen. If you hear a knock at your door it will be good for you to answer it. I'm trying to get in touch with mental health services to do a wellness check on you.
Heres a question. If it’s so obvious that there was widespread voter fraud, then how come it couldn’t be proven in court by Republican funded lawyers? Could it be……. a conspiracy? Surely since it’s so obvious, evidence would be indisputable
What goal posts did I shift?
You said "several other countries" use mail in ballots. The majority do not because of fraud.
You say "no one checked" incredulously despite the fact that it LITERALLY ILLEGAL to check signatures in some states.
If its literally illegal to verify the signatures how exactly can you get a judge to let you verify the signatures?
Your original statement was: “Mail in ballots are rife with fraud which is why the rest of the world won't use them.”
This is misleading. Germany uses them. The UK uses them. You amended this after the fact to “most.” That’s a goalpost shift.
Your argument seems to be that because we didn’t verify that every signature matched in Pennsylvania, the democrats MUST have fudged a bunch of ballots. Is that seriously the best argument the big lie has? That we don’t know if they cheated so they probably cheated? There’s no actual proof? What a shame
I've never considered conservatives to be optimistic. It's in their nature to be against anything new or different.
Optimism first requires a belief that the future will be new and different. A conservative thinks "new and different" means worse. A liberal thinks "new and different" means better.
Both are sometimes right and both are sometimes wrong. But I consider the liberal point of view to be the optimistic one.
I hear what you are saying...but liberals are always down on things. nothing ever seems good because one thing is wrong. Brown U is bad because centuries ago it was in the slave trade. A man's life is ruined because of one bad joke. A rich country like the US is a failure because of some inequality. The environment will doom us all. the us is in decline.
I guess righties and lefties are optimistic/pessimistic about different things.
That's a good point. Conservatives are much more happy about the present than liberals.
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Yes, we have possibly hit peak gasoline demand already. And charging stations will continue to grow with the number of EVs on the road.
Yeah - you have already said all the problematic issues surrounding the imminent takeover of American roadways by Electric vehicles will be solved in short time. But agip has mentioned how New York City has plans to have 10,00 charging stations by 2030. That sounds great - 10,000 is a really big number. The only problem is that NYC and the surrounding area has about 4 million cars. So maybe each New Yorker with an Electric vehicle can charge their vehicle maybe once every 3 years. That sounds like a winner! That will be happening in every other big city.
Sally, I already corrected you on this. The 10,000 number was only for new curbside chargers in the city.
Most charging stations will be installed in parking lots and garages.
We already have almost 5,000 charging stations in the NYC-Newark-Jersey City area. And that's today. This will grow exponentially in the coming years.
Plus, city drivers don't put in that many miles. So you don't need to charge very often.
I've never considered conservatives to be optimistic. It's in their nature to be against anything new or different.
Optimism first requires a belief that the future will be new and different. A conservative thinks "new and different" means worse. A liberal thinks "new and different" means better.
Both are sometimes right and both are sometimes wrong. But I consider the liberal point of view to be the optimistic one.
I hear what you are saying...but liberals are always down on things. nothing ever seems good because one thing is wrong. Brown U is bad because centuries ago it was in the slave trade. A man's life is ruined because of one bad joke. A rich country like the US is a failure because of some inequality. The environment will doom us all. the us is in decline.
I guess righties and lefties are optimistic/pessimistic about different things.
I agree with most of your examples. Except.....5-6 years of Trumpism suggests we are in a decline of some sort. And if Trumpism doesn't die - and it's not looking good right now - that decline will continue.
Trumpanzees didn't even click on the orangeman thread to wish him a happy birthday. You know when you're famous you can do anything you want. Nice recording. If that didn't throw you off then nothing about Jan 6 hearings will.
You said "several other countries" use mail in ballots. The majority do not because of fraud.
You say "no one checked" incredulously despite the fact that it LITERALLY ILLEGAL to check signatures in some states.
If its literally illegal to verify the signatures how exactly can you get a judge to let you verify the signatures?
Your original statement was: “Mail in ballots are rife with fraud which is why the rest of the world won't use them.”
This is misleading. Germany uses them. The UK uses them. You amended this after the fact to “most.” That’s a goalpost shift.
Your argument seems to be that because we didn’t verify that every signature matched in Pennsylvania, the democrats MUST have fudged a bunch of ballots. Is that seriously the best argument the big lie has? That we don’t know if they cheated so they probably cheated? There’s no actual proof? What a shame
There's multiple reasons to believe cheating was going on.
Biden got 81 MILLION votes. LOL!
The number of mail ballots more than DOUBLED from 2016 to 2020. Plausible since coronavirus was in full swing.
But, the rejection rate on mail in ballots went from 1.4% in 2018 and 1.0% in 2016 to .8% in 2020. Not plausible.
So committed to the cause that she took 60K for a two min speech. It’s a scam folks. And MAG’A inc is laughing at you. Kimberly Guilfoyle Was Paid $60K For Short Speech On Jan. 6
Now that a tsunami of early voting has shown that, indeed, there’s no voter suppression in Georgia, the fact checkers aren’t swinging into action; the major newspapers aren’t preparing accounts of how President Joe Biden was led down the path of promoting misinformation about our electoral system; the Sunday shows didn’t do long segments devoted to the theme of how democracy in Georgia, once claimed to be hanging by a thread, has remarkably revived.
Are you libs ready to admit that Jim Crow 2.0 never was going happen in Georgia? 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
If you attack the supply of any commodity the price of that commodity will rise.
Demand for gasoline has fallen off a cliff. Why hasn't the price gone down?
It's not as simple as you think.
It's actually pretty simple on the macro level. The price is set where the supply curve and the demand curve meet. Even when demand goes down if it supply goes down with it the price can increase.
I would also dispute your claim that demand has gone down. Demand went down in 2020. As the economy reopened the demand went back up. As this was happening Biden was actively attacking the supply which artificially increased the price.
You clearly don't understand economics.
When you are simple it makes everything else seem like it's not.
You leftists have screwed up so royally that Jeffrey Dahmer could run against the Democrat in 2024 and win.
Meh.
As we sit here today with what we know about DeSantis today, while I of course wouldn't vote for DeSantis, I could stomach DeSantis as President. Normal policy issues don't make or break my life. Authoritarianism and ignoring the rule of law can and will. As we sit here today, there is no evidence that DeSantis would thumb his nose at the rule of law like Trump has, he has not been enabled his whole life like Trump has, so he likely doesn't have the idea that he can get away with everything.
2024 will come down to even what 2020 did...the economy. As horrible as Trump was as President, to unseat a sitting President, the economy needs to be bad, and it was at election time in 2020. We were in a recession. The unemployment rate was high. Voters NEVER care about the reasons for such things.
When 2024 comes around, if we are in recession and/or continue to have high inflation close to the time of the election, Biden or another Democrat candidate will lose. If 2024 comes around and we are NOT in recession and we no longer have high inflation, Biden or another Democrat candidate will win. There are other factors that play into it...if we are in a war we are losing, that would be bad for the incumbent party, but all this noise about "dementia Joe" and so on just doesn't matter when electing a President.
"Normal policy issues don't make or break my life. Authoritarianism and ignoring the rule of law can and will."
It's so disappointing that so few Rs/conservatives understand this. Even fairly intelligent, well-educated, seemingly reasonable ones.
Of course, given that that group is a subset of country that consistently thinks, "I'll 'punish' whatever party has the WH if I generally don't one or more things going on in the country at the time - regardless of the control/influence they might have over them - it's not all that surprising.
And regarding the midterm "punishment" phenomena, I think the media (and pretty much everyone?) are far too kind in discussing this. Fine, it happens. Say that. But I don't know that I've ever even heard a pundit comment on what a sad commentary it is about the intelligence and logic of Americans. And it's REALLY sad.
Q: So, you're voting against that party because you have general sense that things are going bad?
A: Yes.
Q: Do you know much about the political cause and effect regarding these things that currently bother you?
A: No, not really.
Q: Do you realize that the party you're voting against agrees with you on a majority of policy issues?
A: Uh, no, not really.
Q: Does that fact change the equation at all?
A: Uh, no, not really. Things are bad, so......
As agip might phrase it, a seriously "un-serious" country.