350,000 dead people who all got ballots in 2020. Signatures are not checked and as long as the name is on the voter rolls it's good to go. And the entire election was decided by [fewer] than 90,000 votes.
Well, gosh, I actually read the linked article. But before I respond to it, can we agree that a good definition of a lie would be "a deliberate effort to leave others with a false impression"?
1) NOWHERE in the article does it say that those estimated 350,000 on the voter rolls "all got ballots." So that part of your post is A LIE. In fact, only ten states sent ballots to all voters, some of them just in response to the pandemic.
Of course, simply because dead people's names are still on voter rolls does NOT imply that there's widespread voting (by others) in the deceaseds' names. And by the way, that estimated 350,000 in 2020 constituted a considerable *improvement* nationwide: Just eight years earlier, 1.8 million dead people were still registered.
A new report finds that about one in eight U.S. voter registrations are invalid or inaccurate. While there are few documented cases of voter fraud, the study finds that cooperation among states could improve the accuracy of v...
That tremendous drop from 2012 to 2020 could have been one factor among the many that prompted President Trump's own Department of Homeland Security to say that "[t]he November 3rd [2020] election was the most secure in American history."
Now, the article you linked does say that "nearly 15,000 registrants were credited with voting after death in the 2016 and 2018 elections"--but with the added scrutiny that led to the "most secure [election] in American history," in 2020 that number might have been lower. But even if it doubled to 30,000, it would still only be about a third of the 90,000 that you mentioned.
NOTE that in all of this I've taken the PILF study, and the WFB's reporting of it, at face value. But it would not be unreasonable to be somewhat cautious about both.
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The Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) is an American conservative legal group based in Indianapolis, Indiana, which is known for suing states and local governments to purge voters from election rolls. The nonprofit was...
And, as others have observed, your implication that all (or the great majority) of the minimal fraudulent voting that *did* occur would automatically favor Democrats is entirely unsupported. ["AP looked for 2020 vote fraud in 6 states, found 475 possible cases, many involving Trump voters" (yahoo.com)]--sorry, can't seem to post the URL! In fact, I've had to reformat this whole thing, and the links probably don't work (though you could still copy/paste). Dunno why LRC is making it so difficult to post...
Finally: That study occurred *before* the 2020 election, as did the article reporting it, so it wasn't a description of the 2020 election results. But historically, mail-in balloting has somewhat favored GOP candidates, so some Republican leaders were firmly against DJT's disparagement of the practice.
350,000 dead people who all got ballots in 2020. Signatures are not checked and as long as the name is on the voter rolls it's good to go. And the entire election was decided by [fewer] than 90,000 votes.
Well, gosh, I actually read the linked article. But before I respond to it, can we agree that a good definition of a lie would be "a deliberate effort to leave others with a false impression"?
1) NOWHERE in the article does it say that those estimated 350,000 on the voter rolls "all got ballots." So that part of your post is A LIE. In fact, only ten states sent ballots to all voters, some of them just in response to the pandemic.
Of course, simply because dead people's names are still on voter rolls does NOT imply that there's widespread voting (by others) in the deceaseds' names. And by the way, that estimated 350,000 in 2020 constituted a considerable *improvement* nationwide: Just eight years earlier, 1.8 million dead people were still registered.
That tremendous drop from 2012 to 2020 could have been one factor among the many that prompted President Trump's own Department of Homeland Security to say that "[t]he November 3rd [2020] election was the most secure in American history."
Now, the article you linked does say that "nearly 15,000 registrants were credited with voting after death in the 2016 and 2018 elections"--but with the added scrutiny that led to the "most secure [election] in American history," in 2020 that number might have been lower. But even if it doubled to 30,000, it would still only be about a third of the 90,000 that you mentioned.
NOTE that in all of this I've taken the PILF study, and the WFB's reporting of it, at face value. But it would not be unreasonable to be somewhat cautious about both.
And, as others have observed, your implication that all (or the great majority) of the minimal fraudulent voting that *did* occur would automatically favor Democrats is entirely unsupported. ["AP looked for 2020 vote fraud in 6 states, found 475 possible cases, many involving Trump voters" (yahoo.com)]--sorry, can't seem to post the URL! In fact, I've had to reformat this whole thing, and the links probably don't work (though you could still copy/paste). Dunno why LRC is making it so difficult to post...
Finally: That study occurred *before* the 2020 election, as did the article reporting it, so it wasn't a description of the 2020 election results. But historically, mail-in balloting has somewhat favored GOP candidates, so some Republican leaders were firmly against DJT's disparagement of the practice.
2) A majority of states DO check the signatures on mail/absentee ballots, so your statement that "[s]ignatures are not checked" is another LIE.
Let me get this straight:
You think someone looks at every individual ballot signature. Then compares it to that voter's "correct" signature. Then tosses out the ones that look wrong.
2) A majority of states DO check the signatures on mail/absentee ballots, so your statement that "[s]ignatures are not checked" is another LIE.
Let me get this straight:
You think someone looks at every individual ballot signature. Then compares it to that voter's "correct" signature. Then tosses out the ones that look wrong.
You can't honestly believe that.
States like PA literally passed a law making it illegal to reject a ballot for signature mismatches.
If they are looking at signatures at all it's only to have a giggle about the rampant fraud they're getting away with.
Pennsylvania mailed a ballot to every registered voter in the state. Thousands of whom were dead. Thousands of whom didn't even live in Pennsylvania anymore. And 100% of those ballots could have been returned with Mickey Mouse signed on and they'd all count in the "most secure election in US history"...
You think someone looks at every individual ballot signature. Then compares it to that voter's "correct" signature. Then tosses out the ones that look wrong.
You can't honestly believe that.
States like PA literally passed a law making it illegal to reject a ballot for signature mismatches.
If they are looking at signatures at all it's only to have a giggle about the rampant fraud they're getting away with.
Pennsylvania mailed a ballot to every registered voter in the state. Thousands of whom were dead. Thousands of whom didn't even live in Pennsylvania anymore. And 100% of those ballots could have been returned with Mickey Mouse signed on and they'd all count in the "most secure election in US history"...
Should Doug Mastriano win the PA gov race this November, he has already announced election reform as a top priority: eliminate mail-in ballots and implement strict voter ID. This will eliminate the ballot stuffing that occurred in 2020. Kari Lake, who is running for AZ gov has also made election reform a top priority. PA & AZ will have cleaner elections going forward after these two candidates win in Nov.
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2) A majority of states DO check the signatures on mail/absentee ballots, so your statement that "[s]ignatures are not checked" is another LIE.
Let me get this straight:
You think someone looks at every individual ballot signature. Then compares it to that voter's "correct" signature. Then tosses out the ones that look wrong.
You can't honestly believe that.
In the states that check signatures, that literally is the process. It's one reason why it takes a long time to tally the mail-in votes in those states. If the state doesn't start the counting of mail-in ballots until after the polls close on Election Day, there's likely to be several days' delay before the state comes up with an official tally of votes.
So you are saying you are smarter than Bill Barr. You understand election law and election fraud better than Bill Barr.
And I agree, Bill Barr is brilliant.
I guess you are so smart you sound stupid to the rest of us.
If a brilliant guy says 2+2 = 5 I don't just shrug my shoulders and say "I guess I was wrong all along that 2+2=4".
Barr is correct that people driving by the drop boxes could just be a coincidence.
The fact that it's happening in the wee hours of night with video evidence and time stamps showing that they are visiting drop boxes makes his theory wrong.
He doesn't realize this because he's never seen the movie and has no idea what the actual argument is.
I gave you a clue. Look at the Law of Truly Large Numbers. If you can understand it you will realize that we are not talking about coincidence. We are talking about a near certainty. In a large data set it is a near certainty that you will find the patterns you are looking for.
It doesn't matter where the drop boxes are placed withing the city. You could use any set of addresses and still find the same patterns in the data.
You've been conned. I hope you didn't give them any money beyond what you paid to watch the movie.
My car drives itself perfectly on the highway. That's the opposite of frustrating. On a long road trip I just relax and let my Tesla do all the work.
It's good that NHTSA is looking at this. They need to come up with standards in case other automakers are able to offer the same features some day.
If NHTSA wants Tesla to make changes then they will issue a recall. That will involve the frustrating experience of getting a software download in the middle of the night.
This quote be what makes it to the history books on these presentations. Although uncovering wire fraud and presenting the evidence to the DOJ is pretty good too. The DOJ loves to prosecute wire fraud.
One day Donald Trump will be gone but your dishonor will remain.
If you have ever experienced difficulties with a Tesla, firsthand, then you probably know better than anyone how pricey repairs can become if they’re not covered by a warranty or insurance. This explains why insurance premiums are so high for these vehicles. However, the truth of the matter is that even if you’re not paying to replace those parts, they are much poorer quality than we’re all led to believe. If Tesla’s parts were, in fact, of great quality, then we wouldn’t have freak issues such as bolts rusting off after a mere few years of ownership, or falcon doors constantly misaligning themselves. Not everything on a Tesla is inherently low-quality, but Tesla is certainly cutting corners. The durability shows in the longevity of the parts and by how early rattling, squeaking, and other common problems seem to surface. 💩🥪💩🥪💩🥪
This is not something you want in a “luxury vehicle.” There’s a reason they are the second worst car company when it comes to reliability. 💩🥪💩🥪💩🥪 sh1t sandwiches
If you have ever experienced difficulties with a Tesla, firsthand, then you probably know better than anyone how pricey repairs can become if they’re not covered by a warranty or insurance. This explains why insurance premiums are so high for these vehicles. However, the truth of the matter is that even if you’re not paying to replace those parts, they are much poorer quality than we’re all led to believe. If Tesla’s parts were, in fact, of great quality, then we wouldn’t have freak issues such as bolts rusting off after a mere few years of ownership, or falcon doors constantly misaligning themselves. Not everything on a Tesla is inherently low-quality, but Tesla is certainly cutting corners. The durability shows in the longevity of the parts and by how early rattling, squeaking, and other common problems seem to surface. 💩🥪💩🥪💩🥪
This is not something you want in a “luxury vehicle.” There’s a reason they are the second worst car company when it comes to reliability. 💩🥪💩🥪💩🥪 sh1t sandwiches
I have never experienced difficulties with my Tesla. It's the finest, most advanced car you can buy.
Americans are starting to realize this. It's just so far ahead of the competition, that this happened last quarter:
Q1 2021 sales vs. Q1 2022 sales Toyota Motor Company -14.7% General Motors -20.6% Ford Motor Corporation -17.1% Stellantis -13.7% Hyundai-Kia -3.7% Honda -23.2% Nissan -27.5% Subaru -17.5% Volkswagen Group -30.4% Tesla Motors +66.7% Mazda -1.2% BMW AG +3.7% Mercedes AG -15.5%
There’s a common problem with Teslas experiencing rattling in several areas of the cars. Owners have taken their cars to service centers numerous times for this issue but a very rare few have seen the annoyance resolved. In fact, a few have even documented their experience online, while some have even received their car from the service center only to discover that the rattle has not gone away plus there is a new one. 💩🥪💩🥪💩🥪
Build quality is an ongoing issue with Teslas. For a “luxury” vehicle to be built so poorly with few (very expensive) fixes is frustrating. 💩🥪💩🥪💩🥪
There’s a common problem with Teslas experiencing rattling in several areas of the cars. Owners have taken their cars to service centers numerous times for this issue but a very rare few have seen the annoyance resolved. In fact, a few have even documented their experience online, while some have even received their car from the service center only to discover that the rattle has not gone away plus there is a new one. 💩🥪💩🥪💩🥪
Build quality is an ongoing issue with Teslas. For a “luxury” vehicle to be built so poorly with few (very expensive) fixes is frustrating. 💩🥪💩🥪💩🥪
Gee, I've never heard of rattling issues with other cars.