xczvzxcv wrote:
States with the highest recent death rates:
Alabama 2.37 42% vaccinated
Alaska 1.52 50% vax
Florida 1.45 57%
South Carolina 1.37 47%
Oklahoma 1.16 47%
Montana 1.15 48%
West Virginia 1.15 40%
Idaho 1.13 41%
Georgia 1.10 45%
Tennessee 1.05 45%
Florida has the most average deaths recently at 311/day, Texas is next at 300.
California's recent COVID death rate is 0.27, less than 1/5 of Florida's.
Haha yo that’s too funny haha yo
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Scary Stuff!!! wrote:
60% of that huge grand weekly total of about 115 deaths!!!!
40% of the deaths are still being seen in people already fully vaxed; how many of those "unvaxed" deaths are partially vaxed? Are they working, yeah a little bit. Anything helps right?
Congrats on not knowing how math works. Making you 10+x less likely to die is better than working a little bit, you dunce.
Hey man, no need to be a jerk. It is about 8X for the target pops. An improvement, but not really something so great that we need to force people who don't want it into it. Vaccinating that remaining 17% would cut deaths overall in about half, but at ~115 per week they are already pretty low. Yes, it would be better, but I think you guys need to consider calming down a tad. The gains from forcing everyone to get the vax are not that great. If old people want to risk it then it is their choice. Nobody else is even risking it to a sizeable degree.
SameStory wrote:
The Unkle wrote:
The level of naivite to think the FDA would pull the vaccines if it killed anyone is shocking
Let's say there was a negative outcome of the vaccine. This would have been discovered during the testing phase. The testing phase consists of clinicians around the world overseeing people who sign up for a research study. Every single adverse event of people in these studies is documented. So if a person gets in a car crash when they are in a study, this is documented. All of the events are then sent to an independent review board that does not include pharma or the FDA. This independent review board looks at the data and asks"Could this drug have caused this adverse event"? If this board comes back with "possibly", the trial stops until they dig more into the study participant history to see if a conclusion can be made.
In the case of the vaccine, there were no serious events that had any biological connection to the vaccine. The people you hear about who died or had some major issue "after the vaccine" would have had the same thing happen if they didn't have the vaccine. It's like the person who posted that x number of people died the day after the superbowl . Correlation does not equal causation.
Holy Crap. You believe that propaganda? Do you have no knowledge about the history of Big Pharma and the FDA? You have no idea about how much damage has been done by FDA approved drugs? About how routinely Big Pharma lies about its test results? Heard of oxycontin? Cylert? Quaaludes? Darvon? Accutane? Any of these ring a bell? How about Thalidomide?
It's also a pandemic of the GOP.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/27/briefing/covid-red-states-vaccinations.html
"Since Delta began circulating widely in the U.S., Covid has exacted a horrific death toll on red America: In counties where Donald Trump received at least 70 percent of the vote, the virus has killed about 47 out of every 100,000 people since the end of June, according to Charles Gaba, a health care analyst. In counties where Trump won less than 32 percent of the vote, the number is about 10 out of 100,000."
Yes, that's right: In counties that were heavy-red in 2020, the Covid-19 death rate is nearly FIVE TIMES that in the heavy-blue.
No Schadenfreude here. Just sad.
Scary Stuff!!! wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Congrats on not knowing how math works. Making you 10+x less likely to die is better than working a little bit, you dunce.
Hey man, no need to be a jerk. It is about 8X for the target pops. An improvement, but not really something so great that we need to force people who don't want it into it. Vaccinating that remaining 17% would cut deaths overall in about half, but at ~115 per week they are already pretty low. Yes, it would be better, but I think you guys need to consider calming down a tad. The gains from forcing everyone to get the vax are not that great. If old people want to risk it then it is their choice. Nobody else is even risking it to a sizeable degree.
I agree with this guy. The pro-vax people come off as rather too much high & mighty, and they treat the anti-vax people on this thread as idiots.
Now I realize part of the driving factor is there are some anti-vax trolls that act as though they are simply not very intelligent, but I suspect that is just their troll habits.
But a more civil discussion would be great.
Sure, the numbers show that vaccinations reduce hospitalizations and ICU use and death.
But it seems also fair to point out that the most at-risk population are people with short life expectancies, and also that we don't force everyone to make all the healthiest choices in many other areas of life.
Most COVID Vaccinated Country Israel Becomes COVID Hotspot
Posted on 09/02/2021
As a small country with large walls, Israel has been a test-case for having a nearly fully-vaccinated COVID adult population and for its use of vaccine passes. Israel is forcing its citizens to get COVID-19 booster shots. Those who do not get the third shot would face restrictions on traveling, going to bars, dining out, and other activities. Israeli citizens would need to get a third dose of the Pfizer -BioNTech vaccine within six months of their second dose, or lose the so-called green pass. The green pass gives Israel’s citizens more freedoms to travel around. Israel has already delivered more than 1.9 million boosters, and people aged 12 and over are now eligible.
Now Israel is becoming a COVID-19 hotspot. Coronavirus cases have soared in the country despite their fast-acting vaccine rollout. Israel tabulated 1,892 cases per million people on September 1, 2021, about 0.2% of its population in a single day. Israel’s approach could impact other highly-vaccinated countries. Waning immunity from the COVID shots are becoming a major concern for policymakers and government health officials. Typically vaccines that combat Polio and others offers nearly life-long protection vs. mRNA coronavirus treatments, which offer some protection. The COVID shots have offered some protection against severe hospitalizations. However, COVID fatalities in Israel have risen sharply in August. Israel has been offering booster jabs to people over the age of 60 since July 2021.
Africa
Despite an increase of COVID deaths across Africa since the middle of July 2021, the pandemic impact in sub-Saharan Africa remains lower vs. vaccinated regions of the Americas, Europe, and Asia. Sub-Saharan Africa also has a younger demographic, in which according to CDC data, older individuals are more susceptible to death from COVID versus the youth. Most deaths occur in those aged 65 or older with regard to COVID.
In addition, sub-Saharan Africa lacks long-term care facilities, which have been a hotbed of COVID infections in the U.S.
upptuqtbqin wrote:
Scary Stuff!!! wrote:
Hey man, no need to be a jerk. It is about 8X for the target pops. An improvement, but not really something so great that we need to force people who don't want it into it. Vaccinating that remaining 17% would cut deaths overall in about half, but at ~115 per week they are already pretty low. Yes, it would be better, but I think you guys need to consider calming down a tad. The gains from forcing everyone to get the vax are not that great. If old people want to risk it then it is their choice. Nobody else is even risking it to a sizeable degree.
I agree with this guy. The pro-vax people come off as rather too much high & mighty, and they treat the anti-vax people on this thread as idiots.
Now I realize part of the driving factor is there are some anti-vax trolls that act as though they are simply not very intelligent, but I suspect that is just their troll habits.
But a more civil discussion would be great.
Sure, the numbers show that vaccinations reduce hospitalizations and ICU use and death.
But it seems also fair to point out that the most at-risk population are people with short life expectancies, and also that we don't force everyone to make all the healthiest choices in many other areas of life.
Fck your feelings.
https://qz.com/2065959/oxford-study-finds-long-covid-symptoms-in-one-third-of-cases/?utm_source=YPLIvyguy wrote:
It's also a pandemic of the GOP.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/27/briefing/covid-red-states-vaccinations.html"Since Delta began circulating widely in the U.S., Covid has exacted a horrific death toll on red America: In counties where Donald Trump received at least 70 percent of the vote, the virus has killed about 47 out of every 100,000 people since the end of June, according to Charles Gaba, a health care analyst. In counties where Trump won less than 32 percent of the vote, the number is about 10 out of 100,000."
Yes, that's right: In counties that were heavy-red in 2020, the Covid-19 death rate is nearly FIVE TIMES that in the heavy-blue.
No Schadenfreude here. Just sad.
A lot of the conservatives posting are fakes. They are really raging loony leftists who want to see traditional conservative America sick, dead and in mourning for loved ones.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-hospitalized-covid-19-begs-103018646.htmlForget those guys, listen to Trump. “A safe and great vaccine.”
Singapore reports 2,236 COVID-19 cases, its highest ever single-day rise
Sep 28, 2021 | 11:03 AM
(Reuters) – Singapore’s health ministry reported 2,236 new COVID-19 cases on Tuesday, the highest since the beginning of the pandemic.
A recent rise in cases after the relaxation of some COVID-19 measures has prompted Singapore to pause further reopening. More than 80% of its population has been vaccinated against COVID-19.
From this week, Singapore tightened some COVID-19 curbs such as limiting social gatherings to two people and making work from home a default.
DanM is a liberal wrote:
Ivyguy wrote:
It's also a pandemic of the GOP.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/27/briefing/covid-red-states-vaccinations.html"Since Delta began circulating widely in the U.S., Covid has exacted a horrific death toll on red America: In counties where Donald Trump received at least 70 percent of the vote, the virus has killed about 47 out of every 100,000 people since the end of June, according to Charles Gaba, a health care analyst. In counties where Trump won less than 32 percent of the vote, the number is about 10 out of 100,000."
Yes, that's right: In counties that were heavy-red in 2020, the Covid-19 death rate is nearly FIVE TIMES that in the heavy-blue.
No Schadenfreude here. Just sad.
A lot of the conservatives posting are fakes. They are really raging loony leftists who want to see traditional conservative America sick, dead and in mourning for loved ones.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/man-hospitalized-covid-19-begs-103018646.htmlForget those guys, listen to Trump. “A safe and great vaccine.”
I’m glad they have been uncovered.
A vaccine mandated by our military and these precious little dweebs are railing against it. Snowflake betas.
DanM wrote:
Singapore reports 2,236 COVID-19 cases, its highest ever single-day rise
Sep 28, 2021 | 11:03 AM
(Reuters) – Singapore’s health ministry reported 2,236 new COVID-19 cases on Tuesday, the highest since the beginning of the pandemic.
A recent rise in cases after the relaxation of some COVID-19 measures has prompted Singapore to pause further reopening. More than 80% of its population has been vaccinated against COVID-19.
From this week, Singapore tightened some COVID-19 curbs such as limiting social gatherings to two people and making work from home a default.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/singapore-reports-2236-covid-19-cases-its-highest-ever-single-day-rise-2021-09-28/
Singapore infection rate: 27/100,000
US infection rate: 35.7/100,000
US has 1.3x infections Singapore does.
Singapore death rate: .05/100,000
US death rate: .62/100,000
US has 1.3x more infections than Singapore, yet 12x more deaths. Wonder what the difference in vaccination rates is between the two countries? This is not even taking into account the fact that most infection, hospitalizations and deaths are being driven by low-vaxxed red states in the US.
Gotta try harder, DanM
The Unkle wrote:
Holy Crap. You believe that propaganda? Do you have no knowledge about the history of Big Pharma and the FDA? You have no idea about how much damage has been done by FDA approved drugs? About how routinely Big Pharma lies about its test results? Heard of oxycontin? Cylert? Quaaludes? Darvon? Accutane? Any of these ring a bell? How about Thalidomide?
Prove to me that what I posted is propaganda.
I just explained how a new drug is evaluated for safety. I work in this business and i don't work in either big pharma or for the FDA. How is that possible? Because like my post states, every single drug is tested in hospital systems and research institutes around the country under the supervision of clinicians.
BTW Oxycontin works. if it were pulled from the market, millions of people would suffer. Have you ever been traumatic, life threatening accident? Have you seen someone with stage 4 cancer cope with pain? That is what this drug was intended for.
People will make all the excuses in the world:
“Yeah the vaccine works, BUT I’m a loser and need to feel contrarian so here’s a rambling paragraph where I claim making me feel bad for making a dumb decision is worse than not getting vaccinated.”
BeauBidensDeadHaHa wrote:
colder and wiser wrote:
Panic of the unvaccinated.
Confirmed.
Another Harambe alter, CONFIRMED.
This is so dumb. Well over half the USA is vaccinated at this point and really happy about it, but the dumb anti-vaxxers think any pro-vaccination comments must all be from one guy with multiple accounts. As if anti-vaxxers are a silent majority, instead of a ridiculously tiny clown car stuffed with bumbling idiots.
Self-pwning of the unvaccinated.
Confirmed.
Update yo
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10880191colder and wiser wrote:
BeauBidensDeadHaHa wrote:
Another Harambe alter, CONFIRMED.
This is so dumb. Well over half the USA is vaccinated at this point and really happy about it, but the dumb anti-vaxxers think any pro-vaccination comments must all be from one guy with multiple accounts. As if anti-vaxxers are a silent majority, instead of a ridiculously tiny clown car stuffed with bumbling idiots.
Self-pwning of the unvaccinated.
Confirmed.
BeauBidensDeadHaHa wrote:
https://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=10880191colder and wiser wrote:
This is so dumb. Well over half the USA is vaccinated at this point and really happy about it, but the dumb anti-vaxxers think any pro-vaccination comments must all be from one guy with multiple accounts. As if anti-vaxxers are a silent majority, instead of a ridiculously tiny clown car stuffed with bumbling idiots.
Self-pwning of the unvaccinated.
Confirmed.
Compelling argument!
Anti-vax morons when more than one person disagrees with them: "WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
2600 bro wrote:
Anti-vax morons when more than one person disagrees with them: "WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
Vax morons when someone disagrees with them, log-in under another account.