Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:

Agip and Fat H - you really think Trump was trying to take over the Capitol when he offered thousands of National Guard troops to protect the Capitol. That doesn't sound like anyone trying to take over the Capitol. He tried to secure it.

Trump admin was ready to deploy National Guard on Jan 6, Capitol Police timeline shows
by ALEC SCHEMMEL | The National Desk

WASHINGTON (TND) — A Capitol Police timeline of the days and weeks surrounding Jan. 6 shows former President Donald Trump’s Department of Defense (DOD) offered the National Guard’s assistance in the days leading up to the violent attack on the U.S. Capitol, validating claims from Trump administration officials that were said to be false by liberal fact-checkers.
What we also know is that President Trump wanted to make sure that the people that came, that there was a safe environment for that kind of assembly,” former President Donald Trump’s Chief of Staff Mark Meadows told Fox News’s Sean Hannity.And I’ve said that publicly before — the 10,000 National Guard troops that he wanted to make sure that everything was safe and secure," Meadows said. "Obviously having those National Guards available, actually the reason they were able to respond when they did, was because President Trump had actually put them on alert.

Flagpole wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

You think there was an unarmed insurrection coordinated by 200 people that didn't even know each other and that their plan was to loiter in the capitol and then go home after they
STOLE DEMOCRACY for 20 minutes...

You calling anyone else ignorant is absolutely hysterical.

This whole committee is kabuki theater for morons. It's absolutely no surprise that the stupid people are lapping it up.

It is clear that you either do not understand what happened or you are refusing to acknowledge. Based on how stupid you are, I assume the former. This has been explained to you adequately already, but I will do so again as clear and dumbed down as I possibly can for you.

1) Trump announced before the election that if he lost it would be because it was rigged. Table setting.

2) Trump declared with no evidence IMMEDIATELY following Biden being declared the victor that he (Trump) did in fact win. Flat BS.

3) Trump and his minions kept spreading the Big Lie despite ZERO evidence to the contrary, despite no court giving it any credence, despite no compelling argument from Rudy or Sidney Powell or anyone else.

4) Trump told the Proud Boys to stand back and stand by...this increased the Proud Boys membership. Proud Boy leader Tweeted, "standing by, sir."

5) Trump invited people to DC for a Jan. 6 "protest" and said it "will be wild."

6) The Oath Keepers and The Proud Boys (some of whom have now been indicted) came to DC with coordinated plans to disrupt the certification. They had riot gear, bear spray, some other weapons, and then of course lots of firearms outside the city. I know you want to focus on the firepower, but these rubes were just pawns. The distraction of the riot was hoped to disrupt the certification enough to push it to another day, increasing doubt and causing chaos. ANYTHING that delayed the certification would be beneficial to Trump.

7) Peter Navarro laid out the "Green Bay Sweep" where MANY senators would not accept the results of the election and then Pence was to "remand" (Navarro's word) the votes back to key battleground states and then (see step 8)...

8) ...alternate electors (fake, illegal electors) would change the vote to Trump from Biden. THIS is the core of the coup. Not all coups require the killing of a leader and the takeover by the military.

9) Pence would not go along with this illegal scheme, and he correctly said he didn't have the power to do this (and he further correctly said it would be anti-American for one person to have so much power). Pence is a religious bigot and a really bad person, but at least he showed some integrity here.

10) Once the Capitol was breached, there was an attempt to get Pence to leave the building, but he was BRAVE and decided to stay. It is still unclear if the move to get Pence away from the Capitol was really for his safety or if it was to get him out of the way so that a Trump lackey might step in and do what Pence refused to do...perhaps we will learn more on this.

The violence was a distraction...a REASON to put off the certification. The COUP lied in the "Green Bay Sweep." ALL people involved in ANY part of the coup should be charged and sent to prison.

You are anti-American. You are stupid.

Flagpole wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

You think there was an unarmed insurrection coordinated by 200 people that didn't even know each other and that their plan was to loiter in the capitol and then go home after they
STOLE DEMOCRACY for 20 minutes...

You calling anyone else ignorant is absolutely hysterical.

This whole committee is kabuki theater for morons. It's absolutely no surprise that the stupid people are lapping it up.

It is clear that you either do not understand what happened or you are refusing to acknowledge. Based on how stupid you are, I assume the former. This has been explained to you adequately already, but I will do so again as clear and dumbed down as I possibly can for you.

1) Trump announced before the election that if he lost it would be because it was rigged. Table setting.

2) Trump declared with no evidence IMMEDIATELY following Biden being declared the victor that he (Trump) did in fact win. Flat BS.

3) Trump and his minions kept spreading the Big Lie despite ZERO evidence to the contrary, despite no court giving it any credence, despite no compelling argument from Rudy or Sidney Powell or anyone else.

4) Trump told the Proud Boys to stand back and stand by...this increased the Proud Boys membership. Proud Boy leader Tweeted, "standing by, sir."

5) Trump invited people to DC for a Jan. 6 "protest" and said it "will be wild."

6) The Oath Keepers and The Proud Boys (some of whom have now been indicted) came to DC with coordinated plans to disrupt the certification. They had riot gear, bear spray, some other weapons, and then of course lots of firearms outside the city. I know you want to focus on the firepower, but these rubes were just pawns. The distraction of the riot was hoped to disrupt the certification enough to push it to another day, increasing doubt and causing chaos. ANYTHING that delayed the certification would be beneficial to Trump.

7) Peter Navarro laid out the "Green Bay Sweep" where MANY senators would not accept the results of the election and then Pence was to "remand" (Navarro's word) the votes back to key battleground states and then (see step 8)...

8) ...alternate electors (fake, illegal electors) would change the vote to Trump from Biden. THIS is the core of the coup. Not all coups require the killing of a leader and the takeover by the military.

9) Pence would not go along with this illegal scheme, and he correctly said he didn't have the power to do this (and he further correctly said it would be anti-American for one person to have so much power). Pence is a religious bigot and a really bad person, but at least he showed some integrity here.

10) Once the Capitol was breached, there was an attempt to get Pence to leave the building, but he was BRAVE and decided to stay. It is still unclear if the move to get Pence away from the Capitol was really for his safety or if it was to get him out of the way so that a Trump lackey might step in and do what Pence refused to do...perhaps we will learn more on this.

The violence was a distraction...a REASON to put off the certification. The COUP lied in the "Green Bay Sweep." ALL people involved in ANY part of the coup should be charged and sent to prison.

You are anti-American. You are stupid.

Flagpole wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

You think there was an unarmed insurrection coordinated by 200 people that didn't even know each other and that their plan was to loiter in the capitol and then go home after they
STOLE DEMOCRACY for 20 minutes...

You calling anyone else ignorant is absolutely hysterical.

This whole committee is kabuki theater for morons. It's absolutely no surprise that the stupid people are lapping it up.

It is clear that you either do not understand what happened or you are refusing to acknowledge. Based on how stupid you are, I assume the former. This has been explained to you adequately already, but I will do so again as clear and dumbed down as I possibly can for you.

1) Trump announced before the election that if he lost it would be because it was rigged. Table setting.

2) Trump declared with no evidence IMMEDIATELY following Biden being declared the victor that he (Trump) did in fact win. Flat BS.

3) Trump and his minions kept spreading the Big Lie despite ZERO evidence to the contrary, despite no court giving it any credence, despite no compelling argument from Rudy or Sidney Powell or anyone else.

4) Trump told the Proud Boys to stand back and stand by...this increased the Proud Boys membership. Proud Boy leader Tweeted, "standing by, sir."

5) Trump invited people to DC for a Jan. 6 "protest" and said it "will be wild."

6) The Oath Keepers and The Proud Boys (some of whom have now been indicted) came to DC with coordinated plans to disrupt the certification. They had riot gear, bear spray, some other weapons, and then of course lots of firearms outside the city. I know you want to focus on the firepower, but these rubes were just pawns. The distraction of the riot was hoped to disrupt the certification enough to push it to another day, increasing doubt and causing chaos. ANYTHING that delayed the certification would be beneficial to Trump.

7) Peter Navarro laid out the "Green Bay Sweep" where MANY senators would not accept the results of the election and then Pence was to "remand" (Navarro's word) the votes back to key battleground states and then (see step 8)...

8) ...alternate electors (fake, illegal electors) would change the vote to Trump from Biden. THIS is the core of the coup. Not all coups require the killing of a leader and the takeover by the military.

9) Pence would not go along with this illegal scheme, and he correctly said he didn't have the power to do this (and he further correctly said it would be anti-American for one person to have so much power). Pence is a religious bigot and a really bad person, but at least he showed some integrity here.

10) Once the Capitol was breached, there was an attempt to get Pence to leave the building, but he was BRAVE and decided to stay. It is still unclear if the move to get Pence away from the Capitol was really for his safety or if it was to get him out of the way so that a Trump lackey might step in and do what Pence refused to do...perhaps we will learn more on this.

The violence was a distraction...a REASON to put off the certification. The COUP lied in the "Green Bay Sweep." ALL people involved in ANY part of the coup should be charged and sent to prison.

You are anti-American. You are stupid.

Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

It is clear that you either do not understand what happened or you are refusing to acknowledge. Based on how stupid you are, I assume the former. This has been explained to you adequately already, but I will do so again as clear and dumbed down as I possibly can for you.

1) Trump announced before the election that if he lost it would be because it was rigged. Table setting.

2) Trump declared with no evidence IMMEDIATELY following Biden being declared the victor that he (Trump) did in fact win. Flat BS.

3) Trump and his minions kept spreading the Big Lie despite ZERO evidence to the contrary, despite no court giving it any credence, despite no compelling argument from Rudy or Sidney Powell or anyone else.

4) Trump told the Proud Boys to stand back and stand by...this increased the Proud Boys membership. Proud Boy leader Tweeted, "standing by, sir."

5) Trump invited people to DC for a Jan. 6 "protest" and said it "will be wild."

6) The Oath Keepers and The Proud Boys (some of whom have now been indicted) came to DC with coordinated plans to disrupt the certification. They had riot gear, bear spray, some other weapons, and then of course lots of firearms outside the city. I know you want to focus on the firepower, but these rubes were just pawns. The distraction of the riot was hoped to disrupt the certification enough to push it to another day, increasing doubt and causing chaos. ANYTHING that delayed the certification would be beneficial to Trump.

7) Peter Navarro laid out the "Green Bay Sweep" where MANY senators would not accept the results of the election and then Pence was to "remand" (Navarro's word) the votes back to key battleground states and then (see step 8)...

8) ...alternate electors (fake, illegal electors) would change the vote to Trump from Biden. THIS is the core of the coup. Not all coups require the killing of a leader and the takeover by the military.

9) Pence would not go along with this illegal scheme, and he correctly said he didn't have the power to do this (and he further correctly said it would be anti-American for one person to have so much power). Pence is a religious bigot and a really bad person, but at least he showed some integrity here.

10) Once the Capitol was breached, there was an attempt to get Pence to leave the building, but he was BRAVE and decided to stay. It is still unclear if the move to get Pence away from the Capitol was really for his safety or if it was to get him out of the way so that a Trump lackey might step in and do what Pence refused to do...perhaps we will learn more on this.

The violence was a distraction...a REASON to put off the certification. The COUP lied in the "Green Bay Sweep." ALL people involved in ANY part of the coup should be charged and sent to prison.

You are anti-American. You are stupid.

This is all great Flagpole - not that I read any of it - but it looks very thorough - but you fail to address one thing - if Trump was intent on taking over the Capitol then why did he authorize thousands of National Guard troops for security at the Capitol?

Sally Vixxxxxxxxens wrote:

Flagpole wrote:

Donald Trump is corrupt. He's a criminal. He was impeached twice because of his behavior, not because anyone had a vendetta. He is being investigated by Georgia because of his behavior. He is being investigated by this bi-partisan committee because of his behavior. Yes, Democrats don't like Trump...because of his criminal and corrupt behavior. He has earned that hatred. You are anti-American and beyond ignorant to defend him.

In our legal system impeachment and indictment is pretty much the same thing - having formal charges brought against you. And those impeached and those indicted are allowed a chance to defend against those charges. There have been so many Americans indicted and through their defense those charges were proved to be not true. They were exonerated. Trump has been impeached twice and each time he was allowed to defend against those charges. Well lo and behold those impeachment charges were proved to have no merit and he was acquitted. So he is not a criminal, he is not a criminal and he is not corrupt. 2 acquittals prove that. So just accept Trump as a former president and maybe a future one. He did pretty well the first time.

Flagpole wrote:

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

You think there was an unarmed insurrection coordinated by 200 people that didn't even know each other and that their plan was to loiter in the capitol and then go home after they
STOLE DEMOCRACY for 20 minutes...

You calling anyone else ignorant is absolutely hysterical.

This whole committee is kabuki theater for morons. It's absolutely no surprise that the stupid people are lapping it up.

It is clear that you either do not understand what happened or you are refusing to acknowledge. Based on how stupid you are, I assume the former. This has been explained to you adequately already, but I will do so again as clear and dumbed down as I possibly can for you.

1) Trump announced before the election that if he lost it would be because it was rigged. Table setting.

2) Trump declared with no evidence IMMEDIATELY following Biden being declared the victor that he (Trump) did in fact win. Flat BS.

3) Trump and his minions kept spreading the Big Lie despite ZERO evidence to the contrary, despite no court giving it any credence, despite no compelling argument from Rudy or Sidney Powell or anyone else.

4) Trump told the Proud Boys to stand back and stand by...this increased the Proud Boys membership. Proud Boy leader Tweeted, "standing by, sir."

5) Trump invited people to DC for a Jan. 6 "protest" and said it "will be wild."

6) The Oath Keepers and The Proud Boys (some of whom have now been indicted) came to DC with coordinated plans to disrupt the certification. They had riot gear, bear spray, some other weapons, and then of course lots of firearms outside the city. I know you want to focus on the firepower, but these rubes were just pawns. The distraction of the riot was hoped to disrupt the certification enough to push it to another day, increasing doubt and causing chaos. ANYTHING that delayed the certification would be beneficial to Trump.

7) Peter Navarro laid out the "Green Bay Sweep" where MANY senators would not accept the results of the election and then Pence was to "remand" (Navarro's word) the votes back to key battleground states and then (see step 8)...

8) ...alternate electors (fake, illegal electors) would change the vote to Trump from Biden. THIS is the core of the coup. Not all coups require the killing of a leader and the takeover by the military.

9) Pence would not go along with this illegal scheme, and he correctly said he didn't have the power to do this (and he further correctly said it would be anti-American for one person to have so much power). Pence is a religious bigot and a really bad person, but at least he showed some integrity here.

10) Once the Capitol was breached, there was an attempt to get Pence to leave the building, but he was BRAVE and decided to stay. It is still unclear if the move to get Pence away from the Capitol was really for his safety or if it was to get him out of the way so that a Trump lackey might step in and do what Pence refused to do...perhaps we will learn more on this.

The violence was a distraction...a REASON to put off the certification. The COUP lied in the "Green Bay Sweep." ALL people involved in ANY part of the coup should be charged and sent to prison.

You are anti-American. You are stupid.