We talked about this at length already. The article you cite is almost a year old. I'm not going to look through the database again, but if memory serves, a look at the updated database of people arrested shows it is more than three who now face firearms charges.
Many others are facing other weapons charges.
I suspect that the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were instructed not to bring firearms that day. Instead, they stashed a large cache of firearms in a hotel nearby. They didn't want the initial attack to turn into a shootout where the authorities would be forced to come in with guns blazing and they might all be killed.
Their only objective was to stop the electoral count, throw the process into chaos, and get rid of Pence. From there, Trump and his allies in congress could execute the rest of the plan outlined in the Eastman memo.
The insurrection plan almost worked as Pence was very close to being captured or fleeing the Capitol.
LOL!
So the plan was to storm the capitol, overpower the armed police, and then once they had control run back to the Best Western and get the weapons so they could run back and do the coup for real?
We had a long discussion about that already. You claimed that there were no guns, which is completely false. We know that at least some did because several were indicted on firearms charges.
The only way someone could get indicted on firearms charges would be if they were arrested that day or the video happened to show their guns. But almost all of the defendants were arrested after being identified from video. So unless the video revealed their guns, then firearms charges would not be brought.
Extrapolating from those arrested who had firearms charges brought against them and knowing that most guns would not show up on video, I'd say that probably 5% to 10% carried firearms that day.
I made no such statement. You are lying AGAIN which seems to always be your MO. That and making crazy unsubstantiated claims. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Tell me how many is “several”. Either you are purposely avoiding saying how many were received firearm charges or you are again making unsubstantiated claims.🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🍿🍿🍿
And remember. More than 14,000 hours of video have been reviewed from that day. 👏👏👏👏
I have brought up Seth Keshel many times concerning election fraud. He has done exhaustive research. His background is in analytics. Most of you ignored his work. Add his research to the 2000 Mules research and we have a ton of data documenting fraud.
According to Seth Keshel, Donald Trump has won the elections for : PA, MI, WI, NV, AZ, GA, MN It is very Likely and possible that Donald Trump won elections in these regions if cyber flipping occurring: NM, VA, CO, NJ, NH
Please look at this election map, it is broken down to the county level and shows which areas had the most fraud (colored in red). Keshel calculated that Biden received 8,144,000 fraudulent votes.
A bunch of BS. Such a load. Well, you are another one then who should stay home as Democrats apparently know how to steal an election and not get caught. Guess that makes us really smart, eh? Just stay home. Ya lost! Since Democrats have figured out a way to steal elections, your vote will never count again. Just stay home. It's only the right thing to do knowing your philosophy. I mean, only an idiot would take ANY time out of their day to vote if they were sure the opposing party was just going to steal the election anyway.
Why do you even waste your time posting here? Your guy will never win again since Democrats have figured out how to rig an election and not get caught.
Just stay home.
Mass mail in voting made the fraud possible. Democrats jumped all over it.
They're on video ballot stuffing. 2000 mules that visited 10 more drop boxes have been documented with video evidence and cell phone data.
We talked about this at length already. The article you cite is almost a year old. I'm not going to look through the database again, but if memory serves, a look at the updated database of people arrested shows it is more than three who now face firearms charges.
Many others are facing other weapons charges.
I suspect that the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were instructed not to bring firearms that day. Instead, they stashed a large cache of firearms in a hotel nearby. They didn't want the initial attack to turn into a shootout where the authorities would be forced to come in with guns blazing and they might all be killed.
Their only objective was to stop the electoral count, throw the process into chaos, and get rid of Pence. From there, Trump and his allies in congress could execute the rest of the plan outlined in the Eastman memo.
The insurrection plan almost worked as Pence was very close to being captured or fleeing the Capitol.
LOL!
So the plan was to storm the capitol, overpower the armed police, and then once they had control run back to the Best Western and get the weapons so they could run back and do the coup for real?
Are you honestly this stupid?
That was a rhetorical question.
How is it that you don't understand how this was all supposed to work? Peter Navarro laid it all out. The violence at the Capitol was just a part of it. The plan NEVER included a takeover of the US government by force. The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were both used by Trump and his enablers, and they had some grandiose ideas of eventually coming in with guns blazing, BUT the violence was just a way to hope to stop the count that day, to hopefully get Pence removed from the Capitol so that some other Trump lackey might come in and not certify the votes, throwing doubt and chaos into the process. Then, the votes in the key states would be remanded (Navarro's word) back to the states so that the fake electors could vote for Trump rather than the legally elected Biden.
Any time you can put a stop to a political process that is to name the new President, you have a CHANCE of changing the outcome. This was the plan.
You support a bad guy. You support a criminal. You support an anti-American. WTF is wrong with you? There IS something wrong with you to be supporting the actions of Trump and the rioters. You should ponder and try to figure out what it is.
A bunch of BS. Such a load. Well, you are another one then who should stay home as Democrats apparently know how to steal an election and not get caught. Guess that makes us really smart, eh? Just stay home. Ya lost! Since Democrats have figured out a way to steal elections, your vote will never count again. Just stay home. It's only the right thing to do knowing your philosophy. I mean, only an idiot would take ANY time out of their day to vote if they were sure the opposing party was just going to steal the election anyway.
Why do you even waste your time posting here? Your guy will never win again since Democrats have figured out how to rig an election and not get caught.
Just stay home.
Mass mail in voting made the fraud possible. Democrats jumped all over it.
They're on video ballot stuffing. 2000 mules that visited 10 more drop boxes have been documented with video evidence and cell phone data.
The truth will come out eventually.
Utter BS. No proof of that. Tons of recounting. You are a fool.
So the plan was to storm the capitol, overpower the armed police, and then once they had control run back to the Best Western and get the weapons so they could run back and do the coup for real?
Are you honestly this stupid?
That was a rhetorical question.
How is it that you don't understand how this was all supposed to work? Peter Navarro laid it all out. The violence at the Capitol was just a part of it. The plan NEVER included a takeover of the US government by force. The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were both used by Trump and his enablers, and they had some grandiose ideas of eventually coming in with guns blazing, BUT the violence was just a way to hope to stop the count that day, to hopefully get Pence removed from the Capitol so that some other Trump lackey might come in and not certify the votes, throwing doubt and chaos into the process. Then, the votes in the key states would be remanded (Navarro's word) back to the states so that the fake electors could vote for Trump rather than the legally elected Biden.
Any time you can put a stop to a political process that is to name the new President, you have a CHANCE of changing the outcome. This was the plan.
You support a bad guy. You support a criminal. You support an anti-American. WTF is wrong with you? There IS something wrong with you to be supporting the actions of Trump and the rioters. You should ponder and try to figure out what it is.
Sounds very clear cut. When can I expect the Trump perp-walk in handcuffs? I can hardly wait. 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
Utter BS. No proof of that. Tons of recounting. You are a fool.
nah, remember: Trust Trump, Giuliani, Navarro and D'Souza
DON'T trust every federal court judge
That's how this works, Flagpole.
It is insane how stupid this TAITR poster is. 2000 mules? What a joke. If it's SOOOOO easy to stuff the ballot box, I suggest to TAITR that he go ahead and do it. You know what will happen if he does? Years in federal prison, because he WILL be caught. Amazing that Democrats managed to pull this off. No reason for Republicans to vote ever again, because we've figured out a way to rig an election and not get caught.
How is it that you don't understand how this was all supposed to work? Peter Navarro laid it all out. The violence at the Capitol was just a part of it. The plan NEVER included a takeover of the US government by force. The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were both used by Trump and his enablers, and they had some grandiose ideas of eventually coming in with guns blazing, BUT the violence was just a way to hope to stop the count that day, to hopefully get Pence removed from the Capitol so that some other Trump lackey might come in and not certify the votes, throwing doubt and chaos into the process. Then, the votes in the key states would be remanded (Navarro's word) back to the states so that the fake electors could vote for Trump rather than the legally elected Biden.
Any time you can put a stop to a political process that is to name the new President, you have a CHANCE of changing the outcome. This was the plan.
You support a bad guy. You support a criminal. You support an anti-American. WTF is wrong with you? There IS something wrong with you to be supporting the actions of Trump and the rioters. You should ponder and try to figure out what it is.
Sounds very clear cut. When can I expect the Trump perp-walk in handcuffs? I can hardly wait. 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
You'll be pleased to learn that there's a grand jury in Georgia working on this!
Glad I could be the one to let you know!
And guess what! Trump or DeSantis can't pardon Trump for that one! Amazing!
We talked about this at length already. The article you cite is almost a year old. I'm not going to look through the database again, but if memory serves, a look at the updated database of people arrested shows it is more than three who now face firearms charges.
Many others are facing other weapons charges.
I suspect that the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were instructed not to bring firearms that day. Instead, they stashed a large cache of firearms in a hotel nearby. They didn't want the initial attack to turn into a shootout where the authorities would be forced to come in with guns blazing and they might all be killed.
Their only objective was to stop the electoral count, throw the process into chaos, and get rid of Pence. From there, Trump and his allies in congress could execute the rest of the plan outlined in the Eastman memo.
The insurrection plan almost worked as Pence was very close to being captured or fleeing the Capitol.
LOL!
So the plan was to storm the capitol, overpower the armed police, and then once they had control run back to the Best Western and get the weapons so they could run back and do the coup for real?
Are you honestly this stupid?
That was a rhetorical question.
Actually, it was a brilliant strategy by the insurrectionists. Storm the Capitol with flags and pretend they are just mild-mannered protests. The Capitol police see no guns and only flags think the insurrectionists just come in peace. The Capitol police let down their guard and just think everything is calm and nothing violent is going to happen. The insurrectionists then surprise the Capitol police and storm the building. Once secured they scurry on back to the Best Western, gather all of their guns and return to the Capitol to conduct the real insurrection. Just brilliant.
So the plan was to storm the capitol, overpower the armed police, and then once they had control run back to the Best Western and get the weapons so they could run back and do the coup for real?
Are you honestly this stupid?
That was a rhetorical question.
Actually, it was a brilliant strategy by the insurrectionists. Storm the Capitol with flags and pretend they are just mild-mannered protests. The Capitol police see no guns and only flags think the insurrectionists just come in peace. The Capitol police let down their guard and just think everything is calm and nothing violent is going to happen. The insurrectionists then surprise the Capitol police and storm the building. Once secured they scurry on back to the Best Western, gather all of their guns and return to the Capitol to conduct the real insurrection. Just brilliant.
what part of 'the riot stopped congress from counting the electoral ballots' do you need clarification on?
How is it that you don't understand how this was all supposed to work? Peter Navarro laid it all out. The violence at the Capitol was just a part of it. The plan NEVER included a takeover of the US government by force. The Proud Boys and Oath Keepers were both used by Trump and his enablers, and they had some grandiose ideas of eventually coming in with guns blazing, BUT the violence was just a way to hope to stop the count that day, to hopefully get Pence removed from the Capitol so that some other Trump lackey might come in and not certify the votes, throwing doubt and chaos into the process. Then, the votes in the key states would be remanded (Navarro's word) back to the states so that the fake electors could vote for Trump rather than the legally elected Biden.
Any time you can put a stop to a political process that is to name the new President, you have a CHANCE of changing the outcome. This was the plan.
You support a bad guy. You support a criminal. You support an anti-American. WTF is wrong with you? There IS something wrong with you to be supporting the actions of Trump and the rioters. You should ponder and try to figure out what it is.
Sounds very clear cut. When can I expect the Trump perp-walk in handcuffs? I can hardly wait. 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
I have no clue. The hearings are for an audience of one...Merrick Garland. Time will tell. It is crystal clear to anyone with a brain that Trump attempted a coup. It began before the election when he stated that if he lost it would only be because the election was rigged. It continued with the Big Lie that he won and that the election was stolen and then the inviting of "protestors" to DC on Jan. 6 along with calls to The Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by." The plan, the "Green Bay Sweep" that Peter Navarro laid out on live television was the coup. Pence was supposed to be the "quarterback" of the coup by refusing to certify the votes. That would then send the votes back to the states where Trump and his cronies had put in Alternate (fake) Electors who would then vote for Trump. There is no other way to describe that other than a coup. He failed. Pence had integrity...or at least didn't want to go to prison.
We will see what the Justice Department does. If justice is to be served, Trump WILL go to prison. I do not need to see a perp walk. I do not need to see him in handcuffs. I suppose there might be a LOT of considerations when dealing with him due to his followers' propensity for violence. I'd be ok with it if it is all done sans cameras and even sans courtroom artist. Just get it done, put him in prison, and keep the cameras away that might fuel violent outbursts.
We can't have that kind of behavior. What if the tables were turned in 2024 and Biden loses but they set up Alternate Electors in key states and Harris refuses to certify the votes? Would that be acceptable? Of course it would not. It would be another coup attempt.
You'll be pleased to learn that there's a grand jury in Georgia working on this!
Glad I could be the one to let you know!
And guess what! Trump or DeSantis can't pardon Trump for that one! Amazing!
Awesome. When can expect the perp-walk? 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
I don't know!
But here's an update!
A Georgia elections official who in 2020 gave a fiery press conference rebuking former President Donald Trump for his efforts to overturn the state's election results will testify Wednesday before a grand jury investigating whether Trump's actions broke the law.
Gabriel Sterling, a Republican, was the voting system implementation manager in Georgia during the 2020 election, which Trump lost. In press conferences on Dec. 1 of that year and Jan. 4, 2021, he harshly criticized Trump in response to what he said were false claims about voter fraud and threats to the state's election workers.
"Stop inspiring people to commit potential acts of violence," Sterling implored on Dec. 1, 2020. The following month, he said of Trump's claims: "This is all easily, provably false. Yet the president persists. By doing so, it undermines Georgia's faith in the electoral system." Now, a year and a half later, Sterling is set to address the grand jury considering whether Trump should be charged for his behavior in the days and weeks following his 2020 loss in Georgia. Sterling, who is now the Georgia Secretary of State's chief operating officer, said during the Dec. 2 press conference that his wife had received "sexualized threats" and an election contractor was targeted with death threats and a noose. A month later, Trump was recorded during an infamous phone call in which he prodded Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger "to find 11,780 votes," the exact number needed for Trump to win. That call is the focal point of the Fulton County investigation. Raffensperger testified to the grand jury on June 2.
So the plan was to storm the capitol, overpower the armed police, and then once they had control run back to the Best Western and get the weapons so they could run back and do the coup for real?
Are you honestly this stupid?
That was a rhetorical question.
Actually, it was a brilliant strategy by the insurrectionists. Storm the Capitol with flags and pretend they are just mild-mannered protests. The Capitol police see no guns and only flags think the insurrectionists just come in peace. The Capitol police let down their guard and just think everything is calm and nothing violent is going to happen. The insurrectionists then surprise the Capitol police and storm the building. Once secured they scurry on back to the Best Western, gather all of their guns and return to the Capitol to conduct the real insurrection. Just brilliant.
You continue to show that you know nothing. That was not the plan. No one is stating that that was the plan. Why don't you actually go read up on what happened? Why don't you go listen to what Peter Navarro described as the "Green Bay Sweep?"
A Georgia elections official who in 2020 gave a fiery press conference rebuking former President Donald Trump for his efforts to overturn the state's election results will testify Wednesday before a grand jury investigating whether Trump's actions broke the law.
Gabriel Sterling, a Republican, was the voting system implementation manager in Georgia during the 2020 election, which Trump lost. In press conferences on Dec. 1 of that year and Jan. 4, 2021, he harshly criticized Trump in response to what he said were false claims about voter fraud and threats to the state's election workers.
"Stop inspiring people to commit potential acts of violence," Sterling implored on Dec. 1, 2020. The following month, he said of Trump's claims: "This is all easily, provably false. Yet the president persists. By doing so, it undermines Georgia's faith in the electoral system." Now, a year and a half later, Sterling is set to address the grand jury considering whether Trump should be charged for his behavior in the days and weeks following his 2020 loss in Georgia. Sterling, who is now the Georgia Secretary of State's chief operating officer, said during the Dec. 2 press conference that his wife had received "sexualized threats" and an election contractor was targeted with death threats and a noose. A month later, Trump was recorded during an infamous phone call in which he prodded Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger "to find 11,780 votes," the exact number needed for Trump to win. That call is the focal point of the Fulton County investigation. Raffensperger testified to the grand jury on June 2.
Georgia election officials accusing others of crimes... LOL!
Sounds very clear cut. When can I expect the Trump perp-walk in handcuffs? I can hardly wait. 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
I have no clue. The hearings are for an audience of one...Merrick Garland. Time will tell. It is crystal clear to anyone with a brain that Trump attempted a coup. It began before the election when he stated that if he lost it would only be because the election was rigged. It continued with the Big Lie that he won and that the election was stolen and then the inviting of "protestors" to DC on Jan. 6 along with calls to The Proud Boys to "stand back and stand by." The plan, the "Green Bay Sweep" that Peter Navarro laid out on live television was the coup. Pence was supposed to be the "quarterback" of the coup by refusing to certify the votes. That would then send the votes back to the states where Trump and his cronies had put in Alternate (fake) Electors who would then vote for Trump. There is no other way to describe that other than a coup. He failed. Pence had integrity...or at least didn't want to go to prison.
We will see what the Justice Department does. If justice is to be served, Trump WILL go to prison. I do not need to see a perp walk. I do not need to see him in handcuffs. I suppose there might be a LOT of considerations when dealing with him due to his followers' propensity for violence. I'd be ok with it if it is all done sans cameras and even sans courtroom artist. Just get it done, put him in prison, and keep the cameras away that might fuel violent outbursts.
We can't have that kind of behavior. What if the tables were turned in 2024 and Biden loses but they set up Alternate Electors in key states and Harris refuses to certify the votes? Would that be acceptable? Of course it would not. It would be another coup attempt.
Your guy is a criminal and amoral.
I do love a good conspiracy theory.
So you’re saying if Trump isn’t perp-walked, Garland has no brain???❓❓❓
And nope. Trump is not my guy. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Another R with a backbone. don’t you people want to be like this guy? Rather than like trump? I mean why not, right?
Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson (R) on Sunday said former President Trump is “politically, morally responsible” for the Jan. 6 riot last year and called for Republicans to do some “soul-searching” after the attack on the U.S. Capitol. Hutchinson told “Fox News Sunday” guest host Bret Baier that while he did not believe Trump was criminally responsible for Jan. 6, he does think the former president shares blame for the insurrection.
A Georgia elections official who in 2020 gave a fiery press conference rebuking former President Donald Trump for his efforts to overturn the state's election results will testify Wednesday before a grand jury investigating whether Trump's actions broke the law.
Gabriel Sterling, a Republican, was the voting system implementation manager in Georgia during the 2020 election, which Trump lost. In press conferences on Dec. 1 of that year and Jan. 4, 2021, he harshly criticized Trump in response to what he said were false claims about voter fraud and threats to the state's election workers.
"Stop inspiring people to commit potential acts of violence," Sterling implored on Dec. 1, 2020. The following month, he said of Trump's claims: "This is all easily, provably false. Yet the president persists. By doing so, it undermines Georgia's faith in the electoral system." Now, a year and a half later, Sterling is set to address the grand jury considering whether Trump should be charged for his behavior in the days and weeks following his 2020 loss in Georgia. Sterling, who is now the Georgia Secretary of State's chief operating officer, said during the Dec. 2 press conference that his wife had received "sexualized threats" and an election contractor was targeted with death threats and a noose. A month later, Trump was recorded during an infamous phone call in which he prodded Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger "to find 11,780 votes," the exact number needed for Trump to win. That call is the focal point of the Fulton County investigation. Raffensperger testified to the grand jury on June 2.
Great! I wouldn’t put too much stock into viewing a Grand Jury voting to move ahead with charges as a win. If this one is like the two I’ve been on, all you need is a majority to vote for charges and of course they only hear one side of the story. Since they don’t vote on guilt or innocence or interpret the law, it’s more or less a rubber stamp. In theory, it serves a purpose, but it practice, it’s kind of useless.
But awesome that we’re going to get several perp-walks from Trump. Any others? How about SDNY? 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
A Georgia elections official who in 2020 gave a fiery press conference rebuking former President Donald Trump for his efforts to overturn the state's election results will testify Wednesday before a grand jury investigating whether Trump's actions broke the law.
Gabriel Sterling, a Republican, was the voting system implementation manager in Georgia during the 2020 election, which Trump lost. In press conferences on Dec. 1 of that year and Jan. 4, 2021, he harshly criticized Trump in response to what he said were false claims about voter fraud and threats to the state's election workers.
"Stop inspiring people to commit potential acts of violence," Sterling implored on Dec. 1, 2020. The following month, he said of Trump's claims: "This is all easily, provably false. Yet the president persists. By doing so, it undermines Georgia's faith in the electoral system." Now, a year and a half later, Sterling is set to address the grand jury considering whether Trump should be charged for his behavior in the days and weeks following his 2020 loss in Georgia. Sterling, who is now the Georgia Secretary of State's chief operating officer, said during the Dec. 2 press conference that his wife had received "sexualized threats" and an election contractor was targeted with death threats and a noose. A month later, Trump was recorded during an infamous phone call in which he prodded Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger "to find 11,780 votes," the exact number needed for Trump to win. That call is the focal point of the Fulton County investigation. Raffensperger testified to the grand jury on June 2.
Great! I wouldn’t put too much stock into viewing a Grand Jury voting to move ahead with charges as a win. If this one is like the two I’ve been on, all you need is a majority to vote for charges and of course they only hear one side of the story. Since they don’t vote on guilt or innocence or interpret the law, it’s more or less a rubber stamp. In theory, it serves a purpose, but it practice, it’s kind of useless.
But awesome that we’re going to get several perp-walks from Trump. Any others? How about SDNY? 🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿🍿
OH NO I would never put much stock in a state indicting a former president who is planning to run for president again. I would NEVER make too much of a deal about that little old thing. It's nothing. I wouldn't worry.